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As of this afternoon, Apple has started offering a SIM-free version of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus from its online store in the United States, allowing customers to buy an unlocked iPhone without choosing a carrier.

SIM-free versions of the iPhone 7 Plus in all capacities list shipping estimates of three to four weeks, with the exception of the Jet Black SIM-free iPhone 7 Plus, which lists a shipping estimate of six to eight weeks.

For the iPhone 7, SIM-free models in Silver, Gold, Rose Gold, and Black feature delivery estimates of October 17 to 19, while Jet Black models ship in three to five weeks.

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According to Apple, SIM-free models (A1660 and A1661) will work with any carrier and have full support for CDMA and GSM networks, much like the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus devices available from Sprint or Verizon. iPhone 7 and 7 Plus models from AT&T and T-Mobile do not support CDMA networks and are not compatible with all carriers.

SIM-free models are not yet available for in-store pickup from the online store, but should be available in the near future as supplies improve. Retail stores will also likely begin offering SIM-free models in the next few days.

SIM-free iPhones must be purchased at full price, with the iPhone 7 starting at $649 and the iPhone 7 Plus starting at $769.

Article Link: SIM-Free iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Now Available From Apple Online Store
 

friedmud

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Can you get these on the iPhone upgrade program?

To be clear: I'm NOT on the program yet... but have been considering joining. I would love to do it with an unlocked... sim free phone...

Edit: the line at the end of this article seems to suggest not...
 

JFazYankees

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Can you get these on the iPhone upgrade program?

To be clear: I'm NOT on the program yet... but have been considering joining. I would love to do it with an unlocked... sim free phone...
No, the program requires activation.
 

pat500000

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In other news: iPhone 2017 is happening.

Customer a: "aww...time to wait on that. It killed my mood to get 7."

In other news: "specs and design of 2017."

Customer" I'm gonna get my 7....wait.....awwwkilled my mood to go buy it now..."
 
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Saipher

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Why doesn't the iPhones ship with an Apple SIM card? Are those SIMs for data only? I thought they were supposed to offer flexibility to consumers but I never understood the point of them if you can easily get a SIM card from most providers.
 

tmiw

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Sounds like the SIM-free ones will use Qualcomm radios. Not sure it really matters though unless you expect to use the phone with Verizon or Sprint at any point during its lifetime.
 

pika2000

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Why did it take so long? You should have been able to get the iPhone 7 SIM-free from the very beginning.
To prevent scalpers from taking advantage of the lower US prices before Apple launch the iPhone in other countries.
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So, does Apple get some kind of kickback for selling a phone with a sim in it on their program? I'm asking because I can't imagine why a sim free model would be excluded from program such as this.
Not a kickback per se, but probably a preset deal in advance for the carriers.
 

swordfish5736

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So, does Apple get some kind of kickback for selling a phone with a sim in it on their program? I'm asking because I can't imagine why a sim free model would be excluded from program such as this.

You mean on the iphone upgrade program? Maybe its a condition of the deal with citizens one and not the carriers. There could be a concern about identity theifs fraudulently buying phones with other peoples information and selling them. I'd guess requiring a valid post-paid cell account would make this more difficult to do. The major cell providers all have there own version of the 0% interest loan programs so they'd probably prefer you sign up with there's not apples.
 

Stella

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Strange. Sim free iphones have been available on the Canada, and a lot of other country's apple stores from day one.
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy

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Can you get these on the iPhone upgrade program?

To be clear: I'm NOT on the program yet... but have been considering joining. I would love to do it with an unlocked... sim free phone...

Edit: the line at the end of this article seems to suggest not...

No, the program requires activation.

That's correct.

Apple gets a percentage of every monthly fee you pay to your provider if you activate with them so they have a very big interest in getting you to buy from one of them.
 
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lordofthereef

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You mean on the iphone upgrade program? Maybe its a condition of the deal with citizens one and not the carriers. There could be a concern about identity theifs fraudulently buying phones with other peoples information and selling them. I'd guess requiring a valid post-paid cell account would make this more difficult to do. They major cell providers all have there own version of the 0% interest loan programs so they'd probably prefer you sign up with there's not apples.
Fair, it even if I have a valid post paid cell account I can't choose the phone I want. The limitations seems arbitrary in that sense.
 

firewood

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So what's the real difference between buying an (unlocked) T-Mobile iPhone 7 (and perhaps just throwing away the T-Mobile SIM), and buying a SIM-Free iPhone 7?
 

C DM

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So what's the real difference between buying an (unlocked) T-Mobile iPhone 7 (and perhaps just throwing away the T-Mobile SIM), and buying a SIM-Free iPhone 7?
Different models: the T-Mobile model (which is also the AT&T model) only supports GSM, while the SIM-Free model (which is also the Verizon/Sprint model) supports GSM and CDMA.
 

MareLuce

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I read in a thread in the iPhone forum that

1) Based on a MacRumors member's testing of 2 iPhones, the GSM-only (ATT, T-Mobile) iPhone 7 has better battery life than the one that supports CDMA
n=1

2) Based on a Reddits member's testing of 2 iPhones, the iPhone 7 that supports CDMA shows faster LTE data speeds than the one that supports GSM
n=1

I'd love to see in-depth testing with a meaningful sample size in a variety of conditions of both
- speed
- battery life
between the 2 flavors of iPHone 7's / 7+'s

I have 1 week left to decide whether or not to trade my Jet Black 256 ATT iPhone 7+ for the CDMA, unlocked version.
 
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macman312

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Does anyone know the difference between the A1784 and A1661 for the 7+?

I'm from Australia currently in the US. My 6+ has touch disease and thinking I might just replace it if I can reserve on online.

The bands look the same so what's the difference?
 

C DM

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Does anyone know the difference between the A1784 and A1661 for the 7+?

I'm from Australia currently in the US. My 6+ has touch disease and thinking I might just replace it if I can reserve on online.

The bands look the same so what's the difference?
A1784 only supports GSM, while A1661 supports GSM and CDMA.
 
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