Carrier SIM locking when it comes to the new “dual SIM” feature...

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Has anyone seen any clarification from Apple and/or the carriers on how SIM locking will work on carrier financed phones? Will the the eSIM and the physical SIM slot be locked? Only the physical? Only the eSIM? Kind of a pointless feature if both are locked to 1 carrier.
 

Lyn2012

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I would like more information about this as well. Surely if you’ve purchased the phone outright directly from Apple, no carrier should be allowed to touch your phone. I understand if you purchase via a carrier they might have rights, but otherwise no.
 

penajmz

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It makes sense to me that they’d lock both if you got it through a carrier otherwise it’d essentially be an unlocked phone if you could use any of the sims with another carrier.
 

gsmornot

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Has anyone seen any clarification from Apple and/or the carriers on how SIM locking will work on carrier financed phones? Will the the eSIM and the physical SIM slot be locked? Only the physical? Only the eSIM? Kind of a pointless feature if both are locked to 1 carrier.
If you buy the phone on payments it will be locked to the carrier. You will only be able to use SIMs from different carriers after you unlock the device. You will however be able to use two sim's from the same carrier.

What I want to know is if I can use the second SIM with my hotspot line as a data only connection so I don't have to worry about the 10G limit when I travel and need hotspot. I take my hotspot with me today but it would be nice to have a single device. I will test once I get a phone if I can convert my micro sim to a nano sim or have a new one made.
 

michael31986

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If you buy the phone on payments it will be locked to the carrier. You will only be able to use SIMs from different carriers after you unlock the device. You will however be able to use two sim's from the same carrier.

What I want to know is if I can use the second SIM with my hotspot line as a data only connection so I don't have to worry about the 10G limit when I travel and need hotspot. I take my hotspot with me today but it would be nice to have a single device. I will test once I get a phone if I can convert my micro sim to a nano sim or have a new one made.
Iphone upgrade program phones are u locked.

Also why would apple talk about dual SIM if you couldn't use it over seas.
 

patrickbarnes

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Duel sim is not active right now so can’t lock eSIM. I don’t know if they have right to lock when does.
This is incorrect. No one knows how these phones will ship from carriers.

It’s most likely that’s the eSIM is the default SIM. There are some clues about that on phones ordered from Verizon (“GTO multi-form-factor”).

We’ll see in a week. :)
 

Wags

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This is incorrect. No one knows how these phones will ship from carriers.

It’s most likely that’s the eSIM is the default SIM. There are some clues about that on phones ordered from Verizon (“GTO multi-form-factor”).

We’ll see in a week. :)
We taking about Apple shipped phones with carrier sims? Also, can we view in settings which is being used?
 

gsmornot

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We taking about Apple shipped phones with carrier sims? Also, can we view in settings which is being used?
You can based on what they show in their guide. Settings-Cellular. You will decide which is default and which is used for what purpose.
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Iphone upgrade program phones are u locked.

Also why would apple talk about dual SIM if you couldn't use it over seas.
You can use it overseas. What was said that was otherwise? I would say this feature is for that purpose more than anything else.
 

michael31986

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You can based on what they show in their guide. Settings-Cellular. You will decide which is default and which is used for what purpose.
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You can use it overseas. What was said that was otherwise? I would say this feature is for that purpose more than anything else.
people said that the iPhones would be locked to carriers in America. I have mine from the apple upgrade program. I am planning on using t mobile e sim and then using a chip overseas when I go, but in theory I should be able to use both T mobile and att chip.
 

gsmornot

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people said that the iPhones would be locked to carriers in America. I have mine from the apple upgrade program. I am planning on using t mobile e sim and then using a chip overseas when I go, but in theory I should be able to use both T mobile and att chip.
You should be able to do that.
 
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Breezygirl

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people said that the iPhones would be locked to carriers in America. I have mine from the apple upgrade program. I am planning on using t mobile e sim and then using a chip overseas when I go, but in theory I should be able to use both T mobile and att chip.
From the information I read yesterday both chips have to be from the same carrier to work at least in Canada. Wonder if the U.S is the same.

https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/09/14/...g-to-the-iphone-xs-in-upcoming-ios-12-update/
 

Wags

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people said that the iPhones would be locked to carriers in America. I have mine from the apple upgrade program. I am planning on using t mobile e sim and then using a chip overseas when I go, but in theory I should be able to use both T mobile and att chip.
I think the duel sim usage is another spot where carriers are going to try and bully consumers. Hopefully I am wrong.
 

Breezygirl

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If you read the article it states that it can be different carriers if unlocked and in Canada they are no longer allowed to lock phones to a single carrier as of December 2017 (https://mobilesyrup.com/2017/11/29/heres-everything-you-need-to-know-about-canada-unlocking-fee-ban/). If it is locked for whatever reason, just call them to unlock and they have to do it without charge.
Ahhh I was reading it as unlocked “and” from the same carrier, not “or”. Thank you. Lol. Thank goodness.
 
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I am looking forward to this feature being turned on with iOS 12. I am glad I got the SIM-free iPhone, so I don't have to worry about Verizon or T-Mobile trying to lock me in. :) Will be nice to only have to carry one phone for personal and business.
 
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I am looking forward to this feature being turned on with iOS 12. I am glad I got the SIM-free iPhone, so I don't have to worry about Verizon or T-Mobile trying to lock me in. :) Will be nice to only have to carry one phone for personal and business.
I did the same. Sim free. Plan to use Tmobile for esim and Verizon for nano.
 
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