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VanNess said:
So basically, it's about a fifth of your screen real-estate dedicated full-time to a miniature "dashboard."

That will be just great for viewing/editing full sized jpegs or other tasks dependent upon an abundance of screen real estate. Presumably. MS has built-in a function to switch it (the side panel) on and off, but that's extra, unneeded user managment/involvment with MS's clumsy UI.

In other words, it's in the god damn way

Lol don't rip my head off, I didn't design it.

And Bubbasteve, I agree - I think Vista looks quite nice, although I think on many parts they've tried too hard and just ended up making it look tacky. The recent screenshots of the new IE for example, and also the back/foward buttons on some of the windows look a bit crap and 'plastic' I think.
 
dralfonzo said:
Lol don't rip my head off, I didn't design it.

And Bubbasteve, I agree - I think Vista looks quite nice, although I think on many parts they've tried too hard and just ended up making it look tacky. The recent screenshots of the new IE for example, and also the back/foward buttons on some of the windows look a bit crap and 'plastic' I think.

I like parts of Vista too *GASP* but I just wouldn't use it...I just like the look. I hope that Leopard is updated in terms of interface because Tiger & Panther are starting to look a little a bit outdated. I don't like the whole pin stripe look anymore...I also wish Apple would choose 1 theme...theres 3 themes in OS X, pin stripe, aqua & brushed...even their product pages in the Apple stores they still have a trillion million different looks. Maybe it'd be cool if they made 3 themes built in the OS, like XP kinda does (that weird luna and whatever the other things are) ... idk...this probably doesn't make sense so ill stop now...:eek:
 
dralfonzo said:
Lol don't rip my head off, I didn't design it.

I didn't mean to direct that at you, lol. More of an outward looking statement and...well, I guess I got a little carried away. lol
 
Bubbasteve said:
Well thank God I'm not the only one

Yeah, I like the Compositor a lot. And I think they're adding a lot of great functionality. And I think it's a great, modern look, that has been getting progressively better as it has been refined over the course of the releases to date.

*The* thing I *don't* like about Vista is that there's no appearance that it'll be any less prone to viruses, malware, and spyware, than the current Windows. And there isn't much of a solution in site to the endless cornucopia of annoying background programs and monitors and so on that every non-standard Windows accessory or peripheral uses, and the amount of nuisance involved in new hardware.

And there are also things about Apple that I don't like. Like the fact that the new generation of MBPs seems to get worse battery life than the PB. Wrong direction. :( But OS X is reasonably cute, mostly intuitive and easy to use, quite stable, and has few viruses and no spyware.

And I like Windows Mobile, because it's also cute, and also has few viruses or other problems, although WM5 has annoying bluetooth issues, and there is a lot of software out there that doesn't play nice with it.

So, in the balance, I'm happy where I am. But I don't underestimate MS.
 
Vista wow.

Well I have heard that Vista will be free from the nightmare called "Blue Screen of death". Seriously guys, Vista is going to change things forever. M$ has confirmed that users all over the world dont need to worry bout the Blue anymore.

They are changing the colour.:p
 
I also heard on vista you can have icons scalable to 128X128 "thats funny where have i seen that before" you may say to your self. it gets me so angry when i boast about the good features of mac osx and the stunning interface, then microsoft copies them the icons for example, also expose, also a new "minimize' effect in windows, also a version of dashboard messed about with, also... well i could go on forever but i won't, i mean transparent windows, that was so last year, thats come and gone in osx:mad: The dirty, evil robbing b******
 
Currently I am working in retail, selling both Macs and PCs. I like to keep up to date with knowledge on both.

In the future, my intention is still to get into journalism and writing, starting with technical writing. I will really ahve to keep up to date with knowledge on both.

I also like open source software, like Linux and its various distros. I therefore like to keep an eye on what's happening on that front.

Overall, I prefer using OSX, but my attitude to Windows goes in and out. I certainly won't be upgrading to Vista just because it's there, probably more like a year or two down the line. While I also agree that some features are near blatent rip-offs of elements of OSX and other Apple apps, the ones outlined here aren't really those.
 
They can change the GUI all they want... It wont help at all as long as the underlying architecture remains the same.
No support for EFI!? What were they thinking!? :mad:
While Apple shoots off into the future M$ is still stuck with 80's BIOS technology for at least a five more years.
 
4JNA said:
V.I.S.T.A. (various improvements similar to apple) :cool:

Ok I have to admit the above had me spurting milk out of my nose and pee in my pants!

Its probably been around for ages but its the first time ive seen it!

:D
 
stuartluff said:
Ok I have to admit the above had me spurting milk out of my nose and pee in my pants!

Well, better than the other way around I guess :eek:

What's fun is going to be when our less-up-to-date Windows friends get Vista and show off their fun new features and say "Ha! Can YOUR Mac do that?" :D
 
sunfast said:
That link is hilarious

I personally didn't find it all that amusing. The one redeeming joke was this:

"Theft or loss of corporate intellectual property is an increasing concern for organizations.
Particularly Apple!
"

:D
 
It's the little things that break Windows

When I look at the screenshots for Vista I have to admit they look nice. On the other hand, when I think about trying to *USE* said OS I cringe a little. Screenshots can be deceiving. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it will work well.

The "Exposé copy" is the perfect example. What does making it 3D do to enhance the function? The "stacked" windows block each other, so its hard to tell at a glance what each window is. It seems like they made it 3D just for the sake of making it 3D. If it was a tech demo that would be great - it shows off their new display technology. For a window switcher in a shipping product I couldn't imagine trying to use it. To me, and this is my personal opinion, it seems like a lot of the components of Vista are tech demos that were just left in. Almost like the first idea they thought of they implemented and abandoned the brainstorming process at that point.

I also couldn't believe no one mentioned the fact that they discontinued the bloated OE in favor of separate, smaller apps with only one main function. :D Sounds like the development mantra of a different company. Also they decided to name them Windows Mail, Windows Calendar, and Windows Address Book if I'm not mistaken (and I very well could be, I haven't followed Vista progress very much).

Just keep in mind "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" :)
 
for the young'ns out there.

microsoft borrowing ideas from apple?!? no way!
 

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chaos86 said:
for the young'ns out there.

microsoft borrowing ideas from apple?!? no way!

OOOH IM YOUNG. haha but apparently too young because i dont know what it is.
 
mkrishnan said:
At least have the decency to name your attachment something attractive, like latestpics.tgz.

What's in it?

It's the part in Pirates of Silicon Valley when Jobs called Gates to come over and visit, and Gates walks in to find Jobs with his back to him listening to classical music and he yells at him "YOU'RE STEALING FROM US!", in reference to this new OS, copied mosly from Apple and called, "what is it, windows or something?"

oh, and its the scene depicted in my avatar, i think im gonna animate it later.
 
Macmadant said:
I also heard on vista you can have icons scalable to 128X128 "thats funny where have i seen that before" you may say to your self. it gets me so angry when i boast about the good features of mac osx and the stunning interface, then microsoft copies them the icons for example, also expose, also a new "minimize' effect in windows, also a version of dashboard messed about with, also... well i could go on forever but i won't, i mean transparent windows, that was so last year, thats come and gone in osx:mad: The dirty, evil robbing b******

So any other OS that makes an improvement is copying Apple? I wasn't aware that Apple was leading the way to the future with icon sizes.

Screen resolutions are getting higher. Monitors are getting bigger. Icons and other images getting bigger (and the development of scalable, vector-based interfaces) is just the way ALL graphical interfaces are going.

VanNess said:
Nonsense.

Project Looking Glass was an attempt at rendering a standard desktop environment as 3d shapes. That has absolutely nothing to with expose, the function of expose, or the appearance of expose.

On the other hand, Microsoft's window management feature has, in presence, in style, in implementation, etc., more than an overt - if not abject - similarity to expose

Nonsense?

You're right. Vista's window switching is a dead knock-off of Expose, and Sun had no influence. :rolleyes:
 

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Josh said:
From the pics posted, Vista is hardly a copy of OS X.

I 100% disagree with this statement. If you can't see that Microsoft is copying Apple in their OS, then you must not be thinking straight. :rolleyes:

As for the Gadgets integration, it's funny how the sidebar takes up a good bit of the user's workspace. I realize there is probably a 'Hide' option, but OS X handles this situation in a more traditional fashion: entire screen, but in it's own "layer"
 
Hmm... I don't know about all the "ripping-off" but opposed to people saying they like how it looks, I personally think its a bit ugly. I actually like the way XP looks better!
 
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