Siri...another game changer from Steve?

[Number 41]

Siri is only a game changer if Apple keeps updating it and pushing the boundaries of what it can do. Linking it in to more phone features would be a good start.

The other thing that would be game changing would be for it to be listening all the time and respond without you having to touch a button.

 

[dccorona]

Has anyone here used dragon naturally speaking on their
PC? Its nuance's flagship product.

It is pretty good but it is not even close to 100% in the real world and therein lies the problem. Once you have to start correcting stuff, it is game over and people stop using it.

I am LOLing at people who think they can text with siri in their car while driving. the background noise will be crazy. Odds are that your phone will be on a car holder feets away from your mouth. No way in hell are you gonna get accuracy to make it practical.

My issue isnt about how good siri is as a piece of software/ Even before we go there, you have the issue of voice to text which is nowhere near good enough to be practical to use in a phone in the real world.

I think a lot of you have bought into the apple coolaid and are setting yourself up for disappointment.

feets away? sounds like you dictated this post! haha.

But really, one of the differences between dragon dictation and siri is siri is externally processed, so the actually computers doing the decoding are much more powerful (those big apple servers we've all seen pictures of). Also, I've done plenty of voice to text texting in the car with my windows phone, and it works great, and siri is supposed to be more advanced. So I think it should work pretty well. Of course, I have my phone in my hand when I do it, not in a car holder, but I don't hold it right up to my mouth, so who knows wether that will make a difference or not.

 

[Vegastouch]

Nope. Skype has been in the market for a while now but it's been a very short time since it got video calling.




I don't think you understand my point: iPhone has other apps that do video conferencing such as Skype, Fring, and Tango, and more importantly iPhone had Skype with video calling much earlier than Android did.

On iPhone, you get the choice between the built-in Facetime and other assorted 3rd party apps. On Android, the 3rd party apps are harder to get, and there's nothing that's integrated well like FaceTime.



You sound like you never actually looked into video calling on Android and iOS, and trying to repeat what iOS naysayers claim "FaceTime needs WiFi, booo!" without looking into the situation. Also in my experience FaceTime and Skype are usually better than Fring and Tango by far.

I dont use it, no. But i know people that have Facetime and they dont use it much and dont think it is all it was cracked up to be. There is one person that i know who uses facetime often but she dont use it on her phone, she uses it on her Macbook.
I know a few people that have a Android phone with video calling and have had it demonstrated to me and it worked just from their phone network. I also know Tango has been in the Android Market for a while as when it first got there, i looked the app over because it does more than just video calling but i had no use for it.

So...there are other Apps as well that do video calling for Android so your original point doesnt have much weight. It really doesnt matter who had what first. Non smart phones had MMS when the iPhone didnt get it for two years after it came out. I doubt anybody is saying a flip non smart phone is a better option. Android phones had nitifications first and a damn good one and 5 years later, Apple decides to use them and it still isnt as good. So its all a matter of what you like better.

The iPhone is a nice device, but for ME...i prefer what Android does. Doesnt mean i think everybody should get one. Get what you like but theres no reason for anyone to say stupid stuff like "the GS2 is made of cheap china plastic" when the iPhone is made right there in good ol cheap china and is made no better.

As for Siri...hey good, Apple intregrated it with their phone. Great. I dont think it is something that will be used a lot and they didnt invent it and it has been around for almost two years and Android has something similar and has had it for a long time. Whats to argue?

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wait...is typing your requests in an option? If so, that makes it even more usable!

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I don't know where you get your information...but I have a good friend who lives in japan, and what he tells me is quite the opposite of what you're saying. Not to mention that I've seen the phones they use over there, and while "spec wise" they may be more advanced than what we use in some cases, they're big, clunky, poorly designed, and have awful software.

It was right here in this forum two or so years back. People in Japan dont think of the iPhone as some revolutionary device as the people in here do. There arent any lines waiting for it there like there is here. Cant remember if it was an article or some posters who lived there.

 

[fertilized-egg]

I dont use it, no.

So basically you accused me of being factually wrong on something you have little first hand knowledge of and don't even pay much attention to?

So...there are other Apps as well that do video calling for Android so your original point doesnt have much weight.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. You were the first one to accuse people here of unfairly praising Apple because FaceTime was nothing special and Apple was just catching up with Android in most things. I pointed out that Apple had the most important video calling platform significantly earlier than Android and has a native one built in whereas Android doesn't.

The iPhone is a nice device, but for ME...i prefer what Android does. ...
As for Siri...hey good, Apple intregrated it with their phone. ... it has been around for almost two years and Android has something similar and has had it for a long time.

So you refuse listen to all the explanations here on how Siri is different from just a voice recognition software because your preference is with Android and anything Apple does is automatically bad. Isn't that precisely the type of behaviour you accused Apple users?

 

[314631]

I recommend anyone who think Siri is a game changer to listen to this week's "Hypercritical" podcast with John Siracusa. The last 10 minutes he discusses this technology why he's worried Apple may have mislead people into thinking this is more than it actually is.

http://5by5.tv/hypercritical

Just play the last 10 minutes and think about it.

 

[Vegastouch]

So basically you accused me of being factually wrong on something you have little first hand knowledge of and don't even pay much attention to?

You must be a lawyer since you always cut off the sentence to where it looks good for you. Do i have an iphone now? No...do i know many people that do? Yes. Have i messed with their phones? Yes. I have someone in my house that facetimes a lot, but on her Macbook so im familair with it. The other people dont use it much at all because it isnt as good as they thought.

Pretty sure i said this already.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. You were the first one to accuse people here of unfairly praising Apple because FaceTime was nothing special and Apple was just catching up with Android in most things. I pointed out that Apple had the most important video calling platform significantly earlier than Android and has a native one built in whereas Android doesn't.

What i said was, it isnt used much and there was a thread in here with a poll asking how many us eit. And it wasnt very many. All i said was Android has it and it isnt restricted to wifi.

So you refuse listen to all the explanations here on how Siri is different from just a voice recognition software because your preference is with Android and anything Apple does is automatically bad. Isn't that precisely the type of behaviour you accused Apple users?

I didnt "accuse" anybody of anything. I said Android has something similar and has had voice recognition for a long time.
I have not used Siri being intregrated in iOS. I dont have an iPhone so i havent used it and since nobody else has their ip4s yet, neither has anyone else, including you! All you saw was an Apple explanation of how it is supposed to work.

So till i see it, it is something similar to what Android has. How can you say how different it will be when you havent used it yet? Your speculating just as i am. I mean, Apple said how great Facetime would be and to most(of the people i know and the poll on this site) dont think it is as good as advertised. If Siri works as good as they say it will, then i think that will be a very good addition. I can use the Voice Actions App in the Android Market and i can nearly have a conversation with it but when i ask how the traffic is here, it shows me a picture of something that isnt related, though it is a traffic jam picture....lol and i have to go further and get a chat software which would take it farther but i havent downloaded it.

Siri, if it does what i read and it works just that way, it should be pretty cool but til we know that, Android has something similar right now since the iP4S isnt out yet. If there is video of it in action, id like to see it.

I think that is fair til i use it myself, or see how people here like it. Is there something wrong with that?

 

[joegleur]

android listens, siri understands.

some android fans clearly do not understand that.

 

[mrsir2009]

I say, it's not hard to "predict" the future in cases like this. IE. Flying cars. Will they be a reality some day? Sure. Am I a prophet for mentioning it 20-30 years before it happens? You tell me.

I doubt flying cars will be mainstream in 20-30 years.

 

[boss.king]

android listens, siri understands.

some android fans clearly do not understand that.

I'm not an Android fan but I still see that Siri isn't that big a leap forward from what Android has. It's great, and a step in the right direction, but it's just a step in my opinion, not a revolution.

 

[nuckinfutz]

I'm not an Android fan but I still see that Siri isn't that big a leap forward from what Android has. It's great, and a step in the right direction, but it's just a step in my opinion, not a revolution.

All Revolutions are a step. Since they are open to interpretation what is/isn't a Revolution depends on opinion.

 

[joegleur]

All Revolutions are a step. Since they are open to interpretation what is/isn't a Revolution depends on opinion.

exactly my same sentiments. i personally think siri's AI and natural language is an amazing evolution on voice technology (if it works). what some people may not realize is that the lack of natural language has held off the mass public from using voice command technology. they dont want to have to memorize specific words to do something on their phone.

opinion (excuse my analogies): apple's approach to tech is the jetsons whilst google's approach is star trek (semantics aside).

i believe all of us can agree that with android and iOS continuously pushing the industry, we stand to benefit with the future arriving quicker.

 

[iphoneZ]

nuance is huge garbageware