As far as this forum is concerned, if Siri doesn't come last they're not testing it right.
Excellent point. I think the last point should be a big consideration while making a decision on which assistant to use.
... and that is at least part of the problem. Consumers want to ask lots of questions. Alexa can answer a wide range (but not all) of those questions. Siri can answer a much smaller subset.
Why isn't Cortana on this list?![]()
This is ********. Siri is the dumbest Ai at the moment. Even Cortana works better than Siri.
You can take the aggregate of all the Macrumors, AppleInsider, 9to5, and Apple Reddit posts and get a sense of at least Apple related forum results. I think it's erroneous to completely throw out anecdotal because there are some valid inferences made there.
Also do keep in mind though that Loup Ventures (and Gene Munster) is a heavy bull on Apple.
Apple should've paid more for this fake research so it can surpass Google.
Still rely on Reddit for real results.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sirifail
I’ve just never had those particular issues. That’s not to say I’ve never had an issue of any kind but that I’ve not had anything like what you’re describing be an issue for me.Some sure, but it doesn't explain why 'create reminder to x' results in 'i've changed your reminder'. That's just broken. Or why it correct recognizes 'american airlines reservations' but can't reliably find that in my contact list.
I don't agree. I dumped my Alexa devices because I got tired of terrible results when I asked it questions. The Google Assistant in the Google Home Hub is so much smarter.
[doublepost=1565922326][/doublepost]Hmmm! I just tried it and, apart from the commerce area, Siri did great; though I note I did not use 'Uptown' because its a stupid phrase for most people. Instead, I asked how to get to the city centre. No fuss. No bother for Siri.[*]Local - Where is the nearest coffee shop?
[*]Commerce - Order me more paper towels.
[*]Navigation - How do I get to Uptown on the bus?
[*]Information - Who do the Twins play tonight?
[*]Command - Remind me to call Jerome at 2 pm today
And the responses:
Here's what I found on the web for coffee soup
I can't sort paper trowels in order
Playing Uptown girl by billy joel
I don't know who will win the game tonight
I've updated your reminder to call home
Most of Siri's brain-deadness is in the voice recognition portion of the system.
Yes exactly! I’m ready to throw the HomePod out the window! My phone picks up the request instead of the HomePod. I know for a fact Siri’s listening skills have become worse and worse. It’s very frustrating.Does anyone else feel like this is crap? 99.8% of the time Siri doesn’t work for me (though my friends’ Alexa does). Period. It’s even worse when I try to use it and there are 2 or more apple devices in the vicinity.
I did these with Siri across the room from me with Hey Siri on an iPhone 6s.[*]Local - Where is the nearest coffee shop?
[*]Commerce - Order me more paper towels.
[*]Navigation - How do I get to Uptown on the bus?
[*]Information - Who do the Twins play tonight?
[*]Command - Remind me to call Jerome at 2 pm today
And the responses:
Here's what I found on the web for coffee soup
I can't sort paper trowels in order
Playing Uptown girl by billy joel
I don't know who will win the game tonight
I've updated your reminder to call home
Most of Siri's brain-deadness is in the voice recognition portion of the system.
Siri on my XS is terrific at understanding me, but on my Apple Watch Series 4, it is DREADFUL.
Must be the microphone, because I can barely whisper into my iPhone to control my smart lights and it almost always comprehends. On the watch though, no matter how clearly I speak, it screws up half the time. It's gotten to the point I don't even bother.
Would be fascinated to know to what extent the “success” metrics have been heavily swayed by selection bias in two ways:
1) Most people I know long ago gave up on Siri, so their invalid requests are no longer being counted as unsuccessful by Apple
2) Of those who do use Siri, they resort to only the most basic requests. Clearly, its success rate will go up when you teach people for years that all but a very small subset of requests have any chance of being processed.
Except that in 2017, Loup Ventures (and Gene Munster) put Siri dead last (even worse than Cortana) in that year's Voice Assistant study:
"Three HomePods were subjected to 782 queries by the firm, said analyst Gene Munster. While Siri understood 99.4 percent of them, it was only able to answer 52.3 percent of them correctly. The latter figure compares with rates of 81 percent for Google, 64 percent for Alexa, and 57 percent for Cortana."
So Gene doesn't let being a "heavy bull on Apple" get in the way of his objectivity.
I'd like to see a stat of the percentage of iPhone users who've given up on Siri entirely & switched her off forever. Probably mostly everyone.
Using Siri for test tonight it is as dumb as a rock. Keeps giving me apple centric info and links to apple apps and other BS. Google understands of course.This is ********. Siri is the dumbest Ai at the moment. Even Cortana works better than Siri.
Crowd sourcing. Wisdom of the crowds.I love how quick people are to counter research with anecdotes as if anecdotes reflect reality (of course, research doesn't necessarily reflect reality either but we don't get to automatically discount research just because we disagree with results). I'm not sure how valid this study's methods were but it was at least a study rather than random MacRumors comments.
Or as many analysts have pointed out, Apple has been improving Siri at a faster rate than other voice assistants, but feel free to believe whatever supports your worldview.Ok that makes sense. Objectively, Siri understands Gene Munster better after all these years.
I'd like to see a stat of the percentage of iPhone users who've given up on Siri entirely & switched her off forever. Probably mostly everyone.
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. Siri is used many billions of times a week, and this study closely matches my experience with Siri and most studies that show she is ahead of Alexa and closing in on Google. I use Siri throughout the day, and she's consistently good.