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Excellent point. I think the last point should be a big consideration while making a decision on which assistant to use.

Apple appears to be fairly good at making money and making sure Siri is a solid voice assistant is a key piece of their ecosystem and continued revenue. The difference is that Siri sells hardware and not info about you like Alexa and Google. So I agree it is an important consideration when deciding on a voice assistant.
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... and that is at least part of the problem. Consumers want to ask lots of questions. Alexa can answer a wide range (but not all) of those questions. Siri can answer a much smaller subset.

If we are going to play the my experience game, give specific examples so we all understand. In my experience Siri extracts the actual question out of a statement better than Alexa and normally gives a better response as the study suggests. But it is a bit dependent on what you are asking for. Siri doesn't buy things for you like Alexa. So what examples do you have.
 
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Why isn't Cortana on this list? :p

This is ********. Siri is the dumbest Ai at the moment. Even Cortana works better than Siri.

Actually, Loup Ventures did test Cortana last year and as usual it came dead last:

"Google Assistant continued its outperformance, answering 86% correctly and understanding all 800 questions. Siri was close behind, correctly answering 79% and only misunderstanding 11 questions. Alexa correctly answered 61% and misunderstood 13. Cortana was the laggard, correctly answering just 52% and misunderstanding 19."
Siri works beautifully in my own experience.
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You can take the aggregate of all the Macrumors, AppleInsider, 9to5, and Apple Reddit posts and get a sense of at least Apple related forum results. I think it's erroneous to completely throw out anecdotal because there are some valid inferences made there.

Also do keep in mind though that Loup Ventures (and Gene Munster) is a heavy bull on Apple.

Except that in 2017, Loup Ventures (and Gene Munster) put Siri dead last (even worse than Cortana) in that year's Voice Assistant study:

"Three HomePods were subjected to 782 queries by the firm, said analyst Gene Munster. While Siri understood 99.4 percent of them, it was only able to answer 52.3 percent of them correctly. The latter figure compares with rates of 81 percent for Google, 64 percent for Alexa, and 57 percent for Cortana."
So Gene doesn't let being a "heavy bull on Apple" get in the way of his objectivity.
 
  • This sort of test is fun, but had no real world value. It does not look at dialects, accents, device specifics, etc. Outside of the internal data Google, Amazon, and Apple collect, the best way if measuring the usefulness of these assistants is through user surveys.
 
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Some sure, but it doesn't explain why 'create reminder to x' results in 'i've changed your reminder'. That's just broken. Or why it correct recognizes 'american airlines reservations' but can't reliably find that in my contact list.
I’ve just never had those particular issues. That’s not to say I’ve never had an issue of any kind but that I’ve not had anything like what you’re describing be an issue for me.
 
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Sorry to be so harsh, folks, Siri is terrible. Dead last. A librarian in a small town is right more often.
 
At this point I only use Siri to set timers and adjust my HomeKit thermostat. Even for those basic, repetitive tasks, its success rate is about 55-60%.

Would be fascinated to know to what extent the “success” metrics have been heavily swayed by selection bias in two ways:
1) Most people I know long ago gave up on Siri, so their invalid requests are no longer being counted as unsuccessful by Apple
2) Of those who do use Siri, they resort to only the most basic requests. Clearly, its success rate will go up when you teach people for years that all but a very small subset of requests have any chance of being processed.
 
I don't agree. I dumped my Alexa devices because I got tired of terrible results when I asked it questions. The Google Assistant in the Google Home Hub is so much smarter.

Then, you are buying for the wrong reason. Maybe you are buying just for a logo? Or because all you friends have it.
 
[*]Local - Where is the nearest coffee shop?
[*]Commerce - Order me more paper towels.
[*]Navigation - How do I get to Uptown on the bus?
[*]Information - Who do the Twins play tonight?
[*]Command - Remind me to call Jerome at 2 pm today

And the responses:

Here's what I found on the web for coffee soup
I can't sort paper trowels in order
Playing Uptown girl by billy joel
I don't know who will win the game tonight
I've updated your reminder to call home


Most of Siri's brain-deadness is in the voice recognition portion of the system.
[doublepost=1565922326][/doublepost]Hmmm! I just tried it and, apart from the commerce area, Siri did great; though I note I did not use 'Uptown' because its a stupid phrase for most people. Instead, I asked how to get to the city centre. No fuss. No bother for Siri.

I wonder how much its tied to people's enunciation though. I do note that my brother in-law, who mumbles and slurs words, does have issues with Siri - less so with Google, but still not great.
 
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Does anyone else feel like this is crap? 99.8% of the time Siri doesn’t work for me (though my friends’ Alexa does). Period. It’s even worse when I try to use it and there are 2 or more apple devices in the vicinity.
Yes exactly! I’m ready to throw the HomePod out the window! My phone picks up the request instead of the HomePod. I know for a fact Siri’s listening skills have become worse and worse. It’s very frustrating.
 
Hello Google...
It will take you 35 mins today to drive to your work but you have a meeting at 8 so you should leave now and pick up a double shot latte for your boss who I know did not make a stop at the coffee shop as they have 326 times this year. I have checked your entire driving history and find you drive 6% slower so leave sooner. By the way would you like to buy a new coffee machine from best buys, its on special this week

Hey Alexa
Yes? By the way I heard you arguing with your wife about that new car, I have a book you can buy about spousal disagreements, if you would prefer to listen to it, say install Audiable, or if you want to watch it, I can sign you up for Amazon prime, would you like to check out now?

Hey Siri
Yes?
 
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This analysis seems consistent with my experience. I currently have 2 HomePods and I am down to 1 Amazon Echo which I plan to replace soon with a 3rd HomePod. I only use Alexa and Siri for "Information" and "Voice Commands" with my smart lights and smart outlets. Hands down, Alexa beats Siri with "Information" bus Siri is MUCH better (faster and better consistency) at controlling smart home devices which is my main use of Siri. I am looking forward to the new capability iOS 13 will bring with voice activated shortcuts!
 
[*]Local - Where is the nearest coffee shop?
[*]Commerce - Order me more paper towels.
[*]Navigation - How do I get to Uptown on the bus?
[*]Information - Who do the Twins play tonight?
[*]Command - Remind me to call Jerome at 2 pm today

And the responses:

Here's what I found on the web for coffee soup
I can't sort paper trowels in order
Playing Uptown girl by billy joel
I don't know who will win the game tonight
I've updated your reminder to call home


Most of Siri's brain-deadness is in the voice recognition portion of the system.
I did these with Siri across the room from me with Hey Siri on an iPhone 6s.
My replies:

  • The nearest coffee shop is [Shop Name] Cafe. Is that the one you're looking for?
  • I couldn't find any matching places.
  • One option I found is [Place name]. Is that the one you're looking for? (Yes) Getting transit directions to [Place name]
  • The twins definitively beat the Rangers by a score of 13 to 6 today
  • Ok, your remind is set (Shows the reminder to call Jerome)

Either you're in an extremely loud environment or you're using a much older iOS version, I can't see how you got these weird incorrect replies. My Siri pretty much got what I said word for word.
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Siri on my XS is terrific at understanding me, but on my Apple Watch Series 4, it is DREADFUL.

Must be the microphone, because I can barely whisper into my iPhone to control my smart lights and it almost always comprehends. On the watch though, no matter how clearly I speak, it screws up half the time. It's gotten to the point I don't even bother.

Maybe get your mic checked at an Apple Store? My Apple Watch is usually just as good as my iPhone at picking up what I said.
 
Would be fascinated to know to what extent the “success” metrics have been heavily swayed by selection bias in two ways:
1) Most people I know long ago gave up on Siri, so their invalid requests are no longer being counted as unsuccessful by Apple
2) Of those who do use Siri, they resort to only the most basic requests. Clearly, its success rate will go up when you teach people for years that all but a very small subset of requests have any chance of being processed.

I personally use Siri for far more than basic tasks.

I use Siri on the HomePod, Apple Watch, Apple TV and iPhone to control and monitor my entire house including the backyard Pool pump and pool heating, the robot vacuum cleaner, all the lights, the security cameras, multiple smart switches, 2 Apple TVs, Home Security System and multiple Macs. The only thing I can't control so far is my ducted Air conditioning, but that doesn't work with Alexa or Google either. And I have the reassurance that my home is far more secure and private than if it was controlled using Amazon or Google.

I ask Siri what the temperature is in the living room, to convert ounces to grams, to place and receive phone calls, to play "music I would like in the Living room and kitchen", to add items to the shopping list, to start the robot vacuum cleaning the house, to turn off or dim lights when I'm watching movies, Speech to text dictation on the iPhone and Mac and the list goes on.

It works extremely well with excellent accuracy in my experience with my Aussie accent.
 
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Except that in 2017, Loup Ventures (and Gene Munster) put Siri dead last (even worse than Cortana) in that year's Voice Assistant study:

"Three HomePods were subjected to 782 queries by the firm, said analyst Gene Munster. While Siri understood 99.4 percent of them, it was only able to answer 52.3 percent of them correctly. The latter figure compares with rates of 81 percent for Google, 64 percent for Alexa, and 57 percent for Cortana."
So Gene doesn't let being a "heavy bull on Apple" get in the way of his objectivity.

Ok that makes sense. Objectively, Siri understands Gene Munster better after all these years.
 
I'd like to see a stat of the percentage of iPhone users who've given up on Siri entirely & switched her off forever. Probably mostly everyone.


Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. Siri is used many billions of times a week, and this study closely matches my experience with Siri and most studies that show she is ahead of Alexa and closing in on Google. I use Siri throughout the day, and she's consistently good.
 
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More important. How does this compare to a human assistant? Would be intersting to see some controlled study where the complexity of the questions increased. The listed has no fun aspects of AI to compete with a human assistant.

By the way, 800 questions from one person-near meaningless study. Moreover, description of the study design seem to be lacking to allow the reader to judge confounding factors such as: where the questions randomised? Where each device tested after each other with the risk of bias? Where the questions placed in studio environment or in real life situations? Where the questions recorded and replayed to ensure equal volume and ambient noise?
 
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This is ********. Siri is the dumbest Ai at the moment. Even Cortana works better than Siri.
Using Siri for test tonight it is as dumb as a rock. Keeps giving me apple centric info and links to apple apps and other BS. Google understands of course.
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I love how quick people are to counter research with anecdotes as if anecdotes reflect reality (of course, research doesn't necessarily reflect reality either but we don't get to automatically discount research just because we disagree with results). I'm not sure how valid this study's methods were but it was at least a study rather than random MacRumors comments.
Crowd sourcing. Wisdom of the crowds.
 
Ok that makes sense. Objectively, Siri understands Gene Munster better after all these years.
Or as many analysts have pointed out, Apple has been improving Siri at a faster rate than other voice assistants, but feel free to believe whatever supports your worldview.
 
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I'd like to see a stat of the percentage of iPhone users who've given up on Siri entirely & switched her off forever. Probably mostly everyone.
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. Siri is used many billions of times a week, and this study closely matches my experience with Siri and most studies that show she is ahead of Alexa and closing in on Google. I use Siri throughout the day, and she's consistently good.

Indeed, Voicebot.ai reports that Siri dominates the Voice Assistant market in terms of actual usage to the tune of 45.6% marketshare compared to Google Assistant on 28.7%, Alexa on 13.2%, Samsung's Bixby on 6.2% and Microsoft's Cortana on 4.9%.

So it looks like Google Assistant and Alexa (and the rest) are the assistants that people stop using or don't use in the first place - not Siri.
 
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