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Siri in iOS 27: Every New Feature and Change to Expect

I am concerned with Siri having access at the system level and getting to know everything about me. Couple that with the ever invasive Google products (Gemini) and my alarm bells are ringing.

Data harvesting isn't my only concern. What if down the line Siri develops a hiccup and goes hog wild, rooting around in my apps and data. Grok has shown us a glimpse of the potential hazards.

I like the usefulness of AI but with this technology it's still the wild west.
 
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iemcj said:
>‌Siri‌ will be able to access emails, messages, files, photos, and more, learning all about you to help you complete tasks and keep track of what you've been sent.


This is the most dystopian evil movie sounding sentence I've ever read on this site. How is anyone willfully going to install this?
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Apple is at least keeping this on-device.

If you don’t like this you’re really not going to like the future much at all (you won’t be alone there), because every other company will be much worse.

AI systems will correlate every bit of digital information on your activity they can. They will build up enormous detailed profiles of everyone on earth for advertising, election influence, blackmail / compromat, hacking, you name it.

Yes, people should start taking their digital privacy very seriously right away. We are at an inflection point where your digital footprint will become an enormous liability.
 
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holmesf said:
Improving Siri’s ability to respond to queries and action requests is not AI slop. Siri has hardly improved at all in 14 years … it is ludicrously behind. LLMs are incredibly good at providing natural language interfaces to software making their application to Siri incredibly appropriate and impactful.
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Leave it like this, it’s funny…

I don’t find useful to pollute the planet with more AI for things that you can already do…
 
Astuces iOS said:
Do I need to say it again? WE DON’T WANT AI SLOP !
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Improving Siri isn't a bad thing. Amazon has one thing right with Alexa—a voice interface (if correctly implemented, and no one has done it yet) is the way forward. If Apple (or anyone, honestly, because Apple has had Siri for 14 years and it's not able to do much more now than it could 14 years ago) can give us the computer from Star Trek: The Next Generation, we end up removing the screens in front of us for many tasks. That's massively appealing to countless people. For me, I would love to see (as an example):

Siri, turn on the kitchen lights, set the oven to 400, and send the recipe I marked for this evening to my iPad.

[while cooking]

Siri, read me my unread messages, email subjects, and headlines.
Siri, respond to my mother's text and let her know I'll call her after dinner. Flag that email from my friend for follow-up and then read the full article on Pulp Cthulhu.
Siri, set one timer for 30 minutes and another for 15. Make sure they play in the living room.
Siri, I almost forgot—set a reminder for after I wake up tomorrow. I need to bring donuts to work.

[cooking finishes]

Siri, let everyone know dinner is served, turn off the oven, and reduce the lighting in the kitchen.

I mean, that's a practicality dream. I would love to have a Siri that would understand a natural "Siri, set a reminder for tomorrow at... uhhhh... 2... PM... remind me to get the kiddo from school." Something just second nature.

That's not AI slop. It might not be for you, which is fine, but I see a robust and strong voice interface to be true progress. If this gets us there, great. If not, then I'll turn it off. No harm, no foul.
 
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GrumpyOldGuy52 said:
Improving Siri isn't a bad thing. Amazon has one thing right with Alexa—a voice interface (if correctly implemented, and no one has done it yet) is the way forward. If Apple (or anyone, honestly, because Apple has had Siri for 14 years and it's not able to do much more now than it could 14 years ago) can give us the computer from Star Trek: The Next Generation, we end up removing the screens in front of us for many tasks. That's massively appealing to countless people. For me, I would love to see (as an example):

Siri, turn on the kitchen lights, set the oven to 400, and send the recipe I marked for this evening to my iPad.

[while cooking]

Siri, read me my unread messages, email subjects, and headlines.
Siri, respond to my mother's text and let her know I'll call her after dinner. Flag that email from my friend for follow-up and then read the full article on Pulp Cthulhu.
Siri, set one timer for 30 minutes and another for 15. Make sure they play in the living room.
Siri, I almost forgot—set a reminder for after I wake up tomorrow. I need to bring donuts to work.

[cooking finishes]

Siri, let everyone know dinner is served, turn off the oven, and reduce the lighting in the kitchen.

I mean, that's a practicality dream. I would love to have a Siri that would understand a natural "Siri, set a reminder for tomorrow at... uhhhh... 2... PM... remind me to get the kiddo from school." Something just second nature.

That's not AI slop. It might not be for you, which is fine, but I see a robust and strong voice interface to be true progress. If this gets us there, great. If not, then I'll turn it off. No harm, no foul.
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I mean it's not that hard to do manually and all of this will bring way more AI usage... I mean come on it's not that hard to turn on the oven to 400, open the lights and send a recipe... by the time you say all that, it can be done...
 
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“Unlike ChatGPT and Claude, ‌Siri‌ will have deeper Apple device integration and more access to user data. Current chatbots can't access your mail app, what you've written in notes, your Photos library, or your messages, but ‌Siri‌ will have that information. Personal data access will set ‌Siri‌ apart and give iPhone users some of the features that Android users have been able to enjoy thanks to Gemini's integration with Google services.”

If you are a sentient human being who is capable of critical thinking, I ask you to consider carefully… do you really want this?
 
colbertnation said:
Why are all these companies hellbent on getting us to use AI and chatbots? Who really wants to use Siri beyond some basic tasks?
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There’s gotta be something about increasing token usage (hooking people in), then paywalling it. I don’t know Apple’s long-game, but AI isn’t as cheap as it costs right now and I think a lot of people who are using it will have to check the reality of the pricing structure at some point.

I’m a fan of AI. I use (subscription) ChatGPT or (free) Gemini almost everyday, either for detailed searches (the latter) or quick thought experiments (the former). I also see how some companies’ AI (like Intuit) just isn’t living up to promises. What I don’t know is if I’ll be willing to pay its true, full cost when the chips are down.
 
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Why is MacRumors repeating the same information on a loop every single day? It's getting embarrassing honestly. I'm all for getting the latest scoop on what Apple is up to with new devices and software, but when they have no new information, they just recycle the old stories for weeks on end?
 
What "smarter" version of Siri does MacRumors mean? Siri is currently dumb as a rock. And I won't hold my breath for Apple keeping any promise.

I'm a developer and therefore use a lot of English mixed with German. This totally throws Siri. The result usually is not useful.

I have English Crapple Intelligence for testing on one of my computers. My iPhone (!!!) as result uses English for maps which is hilarious. Bad-Kreitz-Natch instead of Bad Kreuznach or Weibel-shim instead of Wiebelsheim.
 
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Waiting to see the Siri chatbot and the new design for Siri. Hopefully Siri and Apple Intelligence will be in a much better shape in the near future.
 
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beatrixwillius said:
What "smarter" version of Siri does MacRumors mean? Siri is currently dumb as a rock. And I won't hold my breath for Apple keeping any promise.

I'm a developer and therefore use a lot of English mixed with German. This totally throws Siri. The result usually is not useful.

I have English Crapple Intelligence for testing on one of my computers. My iPhone (!!!) as result uses English for maps which is hilarious. Bad-Kreitz-Natch instead of Bad Kreuznach or Weibel-shim instead of Wiebelsheim.
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My native langauge is Swiss German. I don't even try... 😄
 
iemcj said:
>‌Siri‌ will be able to access emails, messages, files, photos, and more, learning all about you to help you complete tasks and keep track of what you've been sent.


This is the most dystopian evil movie sounding sentence I've ever read on this site. How is anyone willfully going to install this?
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It’s really insane.
 
I will be happy if Siri can play the actual song I ask for in Apple Music or on my Homepods! It's only been about 8 years & they were not able to get it right, so hopefully with help from Google it might actually work. But I won't be giving any AI full system access.
 
Biro said:
“Unlike ChatGPT and Claude, ‌Siri‌ will have deeper Apple device integration and more access to user data. Current chatbots can't access your mail app, what you've written in notes, your Photos library, or your messages, but ‌Siri‌ will have that information. Personal data access will set ‌Siri‌ apart and give iPhone users some of the features that Android users have been able to enjoy thanks to Gemini's integration with Google services.”

If you are a sentient human being who is capable of critical thinking, I ask you to consider carefully… do you really want this?
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I hope that it is very easy to deny Siri access to all system data upon setup, sometimes people who are not paying attention maybe tricked into giving all of their information to one or more of these AI companies, I suspect there is a lot of that going on now.
 
That may all be fine. But Siri struggles today with the most basic requirements. I cannot have - as an example - a different language set on iOS/macOS and Siri dictation for Apple Intelligence to work. All my systems are English. I hate German menu items. But I dictate in many languages. English with my team, German for directions or messages with my wife and kids. It's so incredibly stupid. If English is set as a language, I am in Switzerland and tell it to take me to Hauptstrasse 10 in Davos (or similar), then it's too dumb to understand, that these are German words even in an English sentence (Hei, I'm in Switzerland so names usually are not English here). And it comes up with some whatever similar words in English and tries to find a direction for it. Which then turns out to be in US or UK.

Today, with LLMs being able to perfectly switch between languages and even mix them. And with context information like what country I am in, it should *really* be possible that I can dictate German directions even when speaking English. All the poor UK tourists that come to Switzerland for skiing will have a hard time finding their destinations when they use Siri.

Multi-Linguality is a real issue. Things may work in US, where basically *everything* is English anyway. But that's not reality for most of the rest of the world.
 
I expect so little and I know Apple will still disappoint me.
Just make Siri able to be a real digital assistant and take voice commands to make appointments in a natural way and remind me upcoming events in a clear and efficient way.
 
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