Siri is a bandwidth hog ?

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  1. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...vice-for-all/2012/01/23/gIQAZ1O5TQ_story.html

    Who knew, transferring all your spoken audio data into Apple's datacenter would require more bandwidth. After all this time, I'm still surprised no one ever talks about the privacy side of such a system. Everything you tell Siri, your reminders, your SMSs, your appointements, your food cravings, Apple gets to know it all, tied to your phone's serial number which is tied to your iTunes account.

    Frankly, I'm not too down on the fact that I've yet to find Siri more than a flashy gimmick myself. It's been great at setting reminders and that's about it, thanks to Apple's appalling Reminders app.
     
  2. rbrian macrumors 6502a

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    It's not much of a surprise that it's a bandwidth hog, and it's been pretty comprehensively covered. Fortunately, Siri is not very useful, so barely gets used, so doesn't use much data.

    I hadn't even considered the privacy aspect. That's food for thought. But is it any different to Apple knowing everything that goes through iMessage, me.com emails; knows precisely where you are at any time; knows your credit card number... it could be a scary dangerous Enemy of the State dystopia - or it could just be modern life.
     
  3. interrobang macrumors 6502

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    Siri actually isn't a bandwidth hog. The article is mis-interpreting the study, and conflating Siri with the iPhone 4S. Siri itself doesn't use much data.

    The plain truth of it is that the people who buy iPhone 4S's are the kind of people who use their phones a lot.
     
  4. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    Not really. I know a few people who have the 4s just as a regular cellphone. The people who buy the 4s are no more likely to use it than the people who bought the iPhone 4 or the 3GS or any other smartphone.
     
  5. bTaryag macrumors member

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    This is true. It's a gimmick, you use it for a few days and then realize it's easier and quicker to not use it!
     
  6. interrobang macrumors 6502

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    Umm, no. the data certainly does show that 4S users use more data, on average, than users of previous iPhones.

    It's just extremely unlikely that Siri is a factor.
     
  7. KnightWRX thread starter macrumors Pentium

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    So wait, you're saying that Siri is not the reason the 4S users are using more data than previous iPhone owners, but Siri is the only new feature that uses more data...

    Not to mention, you're saying Siri, an application that sounds out audio data streams for remote interpretation, is not a data heavy application ?

    Frankly, I'll trust the study more than you on this. So what if Siri is a data hog anyhow, I don't get why you feel the need to defend it. It is what it is.
     
  8. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    "Siri, how much data do you gobble up in a month?" Ars investigates

    Answer? On the average of 36.7KB per query. Ars technica defines their testing methodology in their article.

    The report the WSJ opinion piece that you linked to doesn't define a testing methodology. Oh, they say iPhone 4 users use more data than iPhone 3GS. What iPhone 4 feature caused that?
     
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    Siri isn't the cause of the higher average data usage. I've used Siri about 5 times since I got my 4S in October, but my bill shows a roughly 1.5x increase in data usage over my 3Gs in the monthly billing cycle. My theory is that the faster cellular connection allows users to download and upload data at much faster rates and thus accumulate data usage faster.
     
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    I know where your coming from, but I've noticed more data use since getting the 4S, and I hardly use Siri. On the 3GS I barely went over 250mb a month, now I almost use up my 500mb.
     
  11. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    iCloud? That's also a new feature that was introduced at the same time the iPhone 4S came out.
     
  12. Intell macrumors P6

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    iCloud doesn't backup over 3G.
     
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    Wirelessly posted (iPhone 4: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)

    I disabled Siri and just use the old fashioned voice control.

    It's just as accurate for voice dialling when driving (which is all I ever used it for) and means the stupid microphone button disappears from the keyboard.
     
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    It was mentioned in the post before mine that a faster device might just make the user consume more data. Maybe it's shiny new toy syndrome!
     
  15. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    Right, but IIRC iCloud gives users more "use cellular" sync options than they've ever had before, as well as iTunes Match.


    Data speeds for my iPhone 4s aren't any faster than my iPhone 4 (they're actually significantly slower), but I'm also using more data. So for me, that theory doesn't pan out.
     
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    Not every user uses iCloud and even fewer use iTunes Match. I use don't use either of them, yet my data has increased since I got my 4S.
     
  17. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    I never said backups occur over iCloud. I never said that every user uses iCloud, either. I'm simply pointing out that iCloud and iTunes Match both have the potential to consume cellular data and like Siri, these options weren't around for prior iPhone models. :confused:
     
  18. KnightWRX thread starter macrumors Pentium

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    But they are now available on the 3GS and 4.

    Siri is the only differentiating factor, aside from faster data rates for AT&T customers.
     
  19. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    Siri isn't ruining your cellphone service - The Verge

    Similar recent articles:

    Siri doesn't suck bandwidth, it's the users that do - ZDNet
    Siri isn’t a bandwidth hog & users aren’t the problem - GigaOm
     
  20. mrsir2009 macrumors 604

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    Then whats the point in getting a smartphone?
     
  21. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    Just becuase the phone uses more data doesn't mean people are usig it more. That could easily be chalked up to iCloud etc.

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    A nice touchscreen interface for texting? Good customer support? Just because you can? My parents, for example, use Apple at home and in the workplace so they figured "hey, might as well get some Apple phones and tablets and see if we like them" and they did. My mom doesn't use apps and only has a few songs synced for music in the car.
     
  22. Avatar74 macrumors 65816

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    Depends on how many users are asking Siri if she'll have sex with them at any given moment.
     
  23. mrsir2009 macrumors 604

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    I guess you can for the sake of it if your buying on a contract so the cost is hidden ... I don't think anyone would pay $1000 or so upfront for a nice touchscreen texting interface ;)
     
  24. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I though they did some studies on siri and while Apple does crap compression and using more bandwidth that they should for something like it. They could compress the data a lot more.
     
  25. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    But they do.
     

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