SIRI needs internet to work?

[PerplexShyt]

Ok see that right there is NOT ok.

There are some places that at&t data doesn't do well in my town, and it will be hell to use in those areas.....and plus now my Data plan is going up even MORE than before?

i understand the need for server side technology to further enhance the "comprehension" for siri...but ehhhhhhhhh

 

[Gatteau]

Siri is still in a beta phase. I'm sure things could change.

 

[saving107]

Siri needs the internet for some task, not all.

and plus now my Data plan is going up even MORE than before?

You're only sending kilobyte files at a time, your Data plan isn't going to go up even MORE than before.

 

[troop231]

What did you expect? Theres no way an iPhone can hold Terabytes of info...

 

[rkahl]

Is this really a surprise to you? Really! Besides do you honestly think you will use it that much unless it really catches on?

 

[chrislaw]

How else would Siri search maps, google and things like this? I could see it being able to make appointments and accept dictation, but anything else you would need internet to do these tasks yourself. Just my .02 on it though.

 

[jgalan14]

Ok see that right there is NOT ok.

There are some places that at&t data doesn't do well in my town, and it will be hell to use in those areas.....and plus now my Data plan is going up even MORE than before?

i understand the need for server side technology to further enhance the "comprehension" for siri...but ehhhhhhhhh

Well Google voice is the same way, usually it sents information for further optimization in the future , bit I'm pretty sure to add a reminder, or calendar appoiment you won't need to, but who knows

 

[Frasern1]

How else would Siri search maps, google and things like this? I could see it being able to make appointments and accept dictation, but anything else you would need internet to do these tasks yourself. Just my .02 on it though.

Even the dictation is done server side. Which makes sense to me. There is no way the iPhone could handle all that and store all that information.

 

[urkel]

Ok see that right there is NOT ok.

There are some places that at&t data doesn't do well in my town, and it will be hell to use in those areas.....and plus now my Data plan is going up even MORE than before?

If you're out in the boondocks of a city that has no 3G available then you adont need to ask what the weather is.

 

[Kadman]

If you're out in the boondocks of a city that has no 3G available then you adont need to ask what the weather is.

Not true. That's the exact time when you want to ask Siri, "Where the hell am I?!"

 

[gillybean]

I don't think the voice recognition is done server side because all the other apps (e.g., the notepad) allow you to talk to enter data as well, and those don't have a stated requirement of internet.

 

[Kendo]

Of course it requires Internet access. If you are asking it for the latest weather or nice restaurants in the area, it needs to utilize the weather and Yelp apps as well as location services.

I don't think data usage would go up at all. Instead of pressing the weather app which uses data to get the current weather, you are asking Siri to do it for you. It still has to access the weather app and retrieve data the same way as if you manually searched yourself.

 

[Ramunas]

The Siri is apple in its product iPhone 4S using a voice control function. Siri interface and function of Siri can make iPhone4S into an intelligent robot, the use of Siri users through mobile phone SMS read, introduce restaurants, weather, speech set the alarm clock.Image

 

[0blivion]

The Siri I'm getting doesn't need internet. Then again, I have around three terabytes of memory, so the phone already has all the info stored onto it..

 

[paulrbeers]

i understand the need for server side technology to further enhance the "comprehension" for siri...but ehhhhhhhhh

So you get that it needs a server to process (it is still a phone with limited data storage and limited processing power).....

and you get that that the server isn't in your phone right?

So in order to get the data to the server, it has to send the info right?

In order to send the info you need a data plan (or be connected via wifi which will circumvent your data plan)....

Not sure what the surprise is here?

 

[Krayzie116]

this is a dumb question is it going to use data for just texting some one I know my dad going to be using that a lot siri for texting. for me i am not worried i have unlimited data

 

[iSaxon]

Will it still work without internet for the tasks that don't need interent? Like to add a iCal event, etc.?

 

[NorfolkMustard]

Will it still work without internet for the tasks that don't need interent? Like to add a iCal event, etc.?

If you watch the macworld video, it seems to be using internet connection as soon as he activates siri microphone, before any command has been given. Presumably it's sending the stream of sound via the mic to apple to be interpreted.

http://www.macworld.com/article/162944/2011/10/iphone_4s_its_a_sure_thing.html

 

[mowbr4]

When we are using the term "Internet", are we talking you must have a Wi-Fi connection or a 3G connection?

Pardon the possible stupid question

 

[Frasern1]

When we are using the term "Internet", are we talking you must have a Wi-Fi connection or a 3G connection?

Pardon the possible stupid question

Either or. Both are deemed as internet connections.

 

[PerplexShyt]

Of course it requires Internet access. If you are asking it for the latest weather or nice restaurants in the area, it needs to utilize the weather and Yelp apps as well as location services.

I don't think data usage would go up at all. Instead of pressing the weather app which uses data to get the current weather, you are asking Siri to do it for you. It still has to access the weather app and retrieve data the same way as if you manually searched yourself.

but the thing is, if you ask it things like, please make a reminder for this thursday to pick up dry cleaning -- all that info should be done "within the phone" but SIRI needs to access DATA to bounce it off the servers to "translate" the information to comprehend the task.

 

[JulianL]

The original Siri video was still on the siri site until this week but apple have now redirected siri.com to the Apple web site. That video had someone from Siri demonstrating the app and talking through what it was doing. He clearly said in about the first 30 seconds of the video that the voice data was uploaded to the servers for processing.

From the videos that I've seen Siri is able to interpret quite carelessly spoken sentences with the speaker making no attempt to talk slowly and clearly for the computer, sometimes with a few "um"s and "err"s in there as well. Recognising genuine conversational speech is difficult to do, especially when no training is required first to optimise the recognition for a specific speaker's voice. I suspect that just the basic conversion of the speech into text needs more processing power and memory than is available on the iPhone, even the 4S, which is why they have to upload the voice data to the servers (although I assume that they do some compression on the voice data first before uploading it in order to minimise network traffic, possibly very specialist compression since they know what specific features of the input will be needed for the subsequent analysis).

- Julian

 

[NorfolkMustard]

I concur

 

[Gav2k]

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Yep as stated your voice command etc are send back to the Siri daddy server who translates and send back! That is for ALL tasks. Hence why Siri can learn so quickly as it's a cumulative database! The more it's used the better it gets. Come Friday there will be 1.5-2 million users hitting that nice new apple data centre where Siri lives!