Siri Shortcuts Offer Scope for Limited Spotify Interactions in iOS 12

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Last month, when we asked MacRumors readers what they hoped to see in iOS 12, one of the most frequent requests was improvements to Siri, specifically Spotify integration. Currently, Siri can open streaming media apps like Spotify, but it can't play songs or video from third-party sources.

    While Apple has yet to explicitly support the functionality, one of the components in the newly-announced Siri Shortcuts feature in iOS 12 could pave the way for Siri-controlled playback, should Spotify choose to implement it.


    Siri Shortcuts lets users connect certain third-party apps to Siri to greatly streamline voice controls, allowing them to connect app-specific actions to an invokable Siri phrase.

    As noted by TechCrunch, the Siri Shortcuts feature includes a "Play Media" intent that will let users summon audio and video media from third-party apps, and could theoretically be used to direct Siri on iPhone or HomePod to a designated playlist or artist on Spotify.

    It's not yet entirely clear how deep this kind of integration can go, but it's likely to operate much less seamlessly than Siri controls for Apple Music. The Siri Shortcuts that Apple demonstrated during its WWDC keynote for instance were limited to sequential actions across apps, suggesting the "Play Media" intent is a one-off command that relies on specific pre-made shortcuts to playlists, artists, and the like.

    Still, in theory, Siri could be used to play an artist or playlist from Spotify, and then the listener could use the standard Siri media playback functions to control the listening experience. But that's still some ways off Siri's existing integration with Apple Music, which extends to individual interface controls and even artist/genre queries.

    The other issue of course is that it all depends on whether Spotify chooses to implement Shortcuts, but the new feature in iOS 12 is at least a positive sign that Apple is evolving Siri toward increased compatibility with third-party streaming services.

    Article Link: Siri Shortcuts Offer Scope for Limited Spotify Interactions in iOS 12
  2. TechGod macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    Shortcuts are one of the best things Apple has added.

    I wonder if these shortcuts can also be used without voice?

    E.g when you arrive at a certain location it automatically runs through a set of actions you’ve defined?
  3. chfilm macrumors 68000


    Nov 15, 2012
    Is there a way to watch this wwdc talk about shortcuts ?
  4. verniesgarden macrumors 65816


    May 29, 2007
    Portland, Or
    I’m with you. I really hope shortcuts are the Automator of iOS. It really could be an IFTTT killer on the iphone
  5. Mike MA macrumors 68000

    Mike MA

    Sep 21, 2012
    If „it just works“ still would be around, we could simply ask Siri.

    Well, at least there’s some progress into the right direction.
  6. itsmilo macrumors 68020


    Sep 15, 2016
    It’s like Apple is like „lol we have no idea how to fix Siri so lets have our users fix it for themselves“
  7. agsystems, Jun 7, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2018

    agsystems macrumors 6502a

    Aug 1, 2013
  8. Abazigal macrumors G3


    Jul 18, 2011
    It will probably work more like workflow, albeit with Siri integration.
  9. szw-mapple fan macrumors 65816

    szw-mapple fan

    Jul 28, 2012
    It’s a pretty neat stopgap measure until they make Siri smarter imo.
  10. Rudy69 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 30, 2009
    You know what I would like? My phone to launch Spotify and play my music when it connects to my car instead of opening Music and saying “no data” because there’s nothing in there
  11. tzm41 macrumors regular


    Jul 11, 2014
    Boston, USA
    This is the product of Apple buying Workflow. I think they don't offer much automation at the moment (user has to trigger the scripts, not IFTTT style), but they might enhance it.
  12. agsystems, Jun 7, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2018

    agsystems macrumors 6502a

    Aug 1, 2013
    I think both can co-exists - there is no way for Apple to create every imaginable Siri intent - IMO, this might cause folks to use Siri more - ex: pizza hut or Dominos can offer a Siri shortcut for a regular order you place and then you don't even have to open the app to re-order.
  13. iSayuSay macrumors 68040


    Feb 6, 2011
    Spotify will never be as good as Apple Music with Siri integration. No matter how many shortcuts it makes

    Unless of course, Apple buy Spotify.
  14. walnuts macrumors 6502a

    Nov 8, 2007
    Brooklyn, NY
    I think Apple Music is “supported” by HomePod because the HomePod talks directly with Apple Music’s servers. If one used these Siri shortcuts, it would introduce the iPhone and (for example) the Spotify app as intermediaries.

    To put another way, HomePod plays Apple Music directly. I think these Siri Shortcuts would just get your iPhone to airplay an app to the HomePod.
  15. EdT macrumors 65816


    Mar 11, 2007
    Omaha, NE
    It may not be a stopgap and that may not be a bad thing. Every few weeks some Alexa/Google Home data leak/privacy violation storycomes out. It’s no longer NEWS it’s now just ‘news’, with only a small emphasis. But they keep occurring. If a shortcut is stored locally and based upon a specific phrase then you lose the ability to say similar questions or commands but you don’t have to worry as much about being spied upon.
  16. Phineasgage1848 macrumors newbie


    Jun 26, 2016
    I have the same feeling. I think this is totally’s Apple’s reply to everyone that is asking for Siri to “do more” while still maintaining their privacy standards and preferring to do things on device. It’s a really intriguing idea that I hope works out!
  17. ericthered926 macrumors newbie


    Jun 11, 2017
  18. macduke macrumors G3


    Jun 27, 2007
    Central U.S.
    It would be better if Siri shortcuts worked more like a recording of an action that you perform and she can just play it back in the background using the actual app. Otherwise won't developer have to stick Siri buttons all over the place? Or will those actions show up as available under each third party app listed in the Shortcuts app and a developer might only tag important ones, such as the itinerary info shown off in the keynote? It would be great if Spotify could expose all of their core controls through this API and they were made available inside the Shortcuts app.
  19. jacjustjac macrumors regular


    Feb 12, 2008
    New York, NY
    “Hey Siri, quit doing that and play Spotify instead.”

    Tbh, I think something changed recently, because more often then not my Spotify starts playing instead of Apple Music.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 7, 2018 ---
    Considering you can launch Spotify playlists from a URL, if Apple adds URL launching to Siri Workflow, you don’t need Spotify to do anything.
  20. groadyho macrumors 6502


    Apr 26, 2018
    I'm confused. In my car when I get in the music on either Amazon or Google music picks back up where it left off last time I was in the car. The wife has a v30 and I have a s9 plus and both work that way. Is that the phone that does that, the apps or the car system that does that?
  21. jst_testing macrumors member

    Feb 23, 2017
    I think this is a faster way to make Siri useful, as you can virtually assign all kinds of actions to get to the information you need in any app that includes these shortcuts.

    Very interesting approach...
  22. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    That's a bug in your car's media system. My Tesla doesn't do anything when I connect my phone over bluetooth - I just get in the car, open podcasts (on my iPhone), and pick something to play.
  23. Danny Miller7 macrumors newbie

    Danny Miller7

    Jun 7, 2018
    United Kingdom
    I wonder when Siri is going to get "Smarter" Like really "Smarter"

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