General Siri sucks!

[Blackberryroid]

Why are you here ? And using Apple products ?

Look, none of us is naive enough to believe Apple is doing everything right, but in every thread I read I see some Apple bashing post from you.

While everyone has a right to "chime in" on a thread, if Apple is not meeting your requirements, shouldn't you just move on to something that does ?
Berating Apple in every thread won't contribute to you finding a better wireless solution.

I may not like where Apple is going, but I use their products because even if it is full of flaws, it's still better than anything else out there.

Apple didn't meet my requirements, but that doesn't make the others meet them. Nothing (yet) meets my requirements. Although some may have the features that the iPhone doesn't have, it still doesn't have the special iPhone-only features like iCloud, etc.

I still think that Apple weighs more than the other products. And that's the only reason why I'm staying with Apple. If a competitor's product has completed my requirements checklist (and Apple didn't), I would have been using their products.

 

[iHailCarlo]

I see more Apple bashing. Why do some of you even come to these forums. No company can do anything perfect, but I have yet to see any of them do better than Apple. It was the right move for them to dump Google, they are becoming more reliant on themselves instead of a different companies software, soon they will be using there own processors in their computers.

They are evolving as a company, and becoming less dependent on others. Why is that wrong? There will always be opportunities to do better and they will. Have you been perfect throughout every decision you have made. I know I haven't, anyone that claims otherwise is a liar.

 

[Europa13]

Apple is dying slowly and painfully. That's how I see it, at least.

I agree with the OP about Siri, but your comment is ridiculous. They are still the largest tech company in the world and they often have trouble meeting demand. They couldn't be more alive.

 

[johndallas999]

I agree, Siri is just basically a gimic now. IT's cool but seems flawed.

 

[hyteckit]

Try it for yourself, then decide.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-search/id284815942?mt=8

Dude. I know about the app.

Play with it over a week ago. Yes, it's impressive. But it's nothing more than a dedicated search app. Nothing compared to Siri running on iOS.

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Siri is not better. Siri has an advantage over the Google because it has access to the iOS and it can do things like create text messages and reminders. This can’t be done by Google because Apple locks down the OS and will not let 3rd party apps have that access.

Did you even watch the video? Sounds like a lame excuse on your part.

The test was Google voice recognition running on Google Android, running on Google Nexus 4. Guy ask the Google Nexus running Android to open an app, but all it did was do a web search. Only time it worked was opening Gmail.

 

[noteple]

Common theme

Siri sinks
Google is great
iOS stinks
Android is great
Apple can't innovate and copies
Everybody else is better

Over 200 million devices now running iOS 6.0
And you don't like it...
And that's ok.....
You don't have to.
They are not trying to make you happy.
And with all the whining that goes with it, really not interested in supporting that demographic.

Every product has pros and cons.
If iOS was like Android, it would be Android.

Like a little boy in a Chevrolet dealership trying to convince every one that Ford is better.

Time to start arguing about color choice again.

 

[Aspasia]

I agree, Siri is just basically a gimic now. IT's cool but seems flawed.

If all you're interested in is search results, sure, Google is faster than Siri.

But Google can't launch my apps, play music I want to hear, complete my lists and reminders, text my messages, or create and send my email.

Siri can - and does. By no means is Siri a flawed gimmick in my world. She's actually quite helpful.

 

[teknikal90]

If all you're interested in is search results, sure, Google is faster than Siri.

But Google can't launch my apps, play music I want to hear, complete my lists and reminders, text my messages, or create and send my email.

Siri can - and does. By no means is Siri a flawed gimmick in my world. She's actually quite helpful.

I'm not doubting what Siri can or can't do. It's integrated well into the OS and hence it has access to a lot more APIs. But it's the implementation that I complain about. Implementation, historically, should have been Apple's strong point.
I mean come on, they touted the voice recognition system at launch, and yet there have been countless times where I sit there as Siri is thinking about what I just said, only to return with 'Let me think about that...". Would've been quicker to do the command manually.
Compare that with a free app on the App store that recognizes my words on the fly and returns every question almost instantaneously. Sure it can't do as many things, but in the few things it is allowed to do/can do, it does them extremely well. Sounds familiar?
The free app also understands more simple questions like "what does a mountain lion look like?". Siri can't understand a simple phrase like that! Instead one of the new feature improvement implemented this year is the ability to start an app, which is arguably futile.
Furthermore, for all the hype surrounding its personality, Siri sounds like a monotone robot, try the Google Search app, the accent is much more natural, not real person natural, but the nuances are there. Google Search to Siri feels like OS X to Microsoft's Vista back in the day.

 

[frayne182]

Siri is cool for a minute when showing people new to it.


"oh look at this!"


*SIRI What is the temperature?*



"I don't understand.... Did you want me to search for... When is the rapture?"


*Haha don't worry.... She must not of heard me.... SIRI what is the temperature?"


"DING DING......." *pause*


*dead air*

 

[hyteckit]

Siri is cool for a minute when showing people new to it.


"oh look at this!"


*SIRI What is the temperature?*



"I don't understand.... Did you want me to search for... When is the rapture?"


*Haha don't worry.... She must not of heard me.... SIRI what is the temperature?"


"DING DING......." *pause*


*dead air*

Maybe you can't speak English? English isn't even my first language and I have no problems.

Here's my test.

"What's the temperature".

Siri responds in 1 sec:
"it's currently 64 (degrees)"

Then shows temperature for the day.

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The free app also understands more simple questions like "what does a mountain lion look like?". Siri can't understand a simple phrase like that! Instead one of the new feature improvement implemented this year is the ability to start an app, which is arguably futile.

The Google search app does ONE THING. Convert voice to text and does a search on google.

What Siri does is much more complex.

Did you watch the video I posted?

Google didn't what to do when ask to open an app on the Nexus 4. Only time it work was on gmail app.

 

[teknikal90]

The Google search app does ONE THING. Convert voice to text and does a search on google.

What Siri does is much more complex.

Did you watch the video I posted?

Google didn't what to do when ask to open an app on the Nexus 4. Only time it work was on gmail app.

The Google Now App doesn't do just one thing. Yes all it does is fetch information for you, due to the limited API. But still in that limited way it does calculate distance from a location, nearby places, random facts, weather, sports. A substantial number of tasks. And I say it does that 'one thing' very very well - I'm arguing that it's doing that 'one thing' much better than Siri.

Now, when you're talking full Google Now (ie Google Now on Android) vs. Siri, Google now is also arguably better. Not only is it far more refined and smooth (as I mentioned above, with the better, less robotic accent and forgiving and more responsive voice recognition) it does more things. Maybe it can't open apps, but that's arguably a futile feature compared to automatically pulling package tracking information, meetings, reservations, movie tickets, plane tickets from your incoming emails and providing those info to you. It can pull articles from news sites and tell you the current news. Tell you which bus to take from your current location. Those are real tough features to compete with and Siri can't yet do those. Google Now can. As an assistant, I argue Google Now is better.

EDIT: source: http://www.google.com/landing/now/ - I researched it just this morning after I realised how good the Google app was.

 

[hyteckit]

The Google Now App doesn't do just one thing. Yes all it does is fetch information for you, due to the limited API. But still in that limited way it does calculate distance from a location, nearby places, random facts, weather, sports. A substantial number of tasks. And I say it does that 'one thing' very very well - I'm arguing that it's doing that 'one thing' much better than Siri.

Yup, Google App does one thing.

Converts voice to text and search for information.

I better hope Google does search better than Apple. Google is mainly a search engine company. If Apple does it better, Google is finished as a search engine company.

 

[cyks]

Yup, Google App does one thing.

Converts voice to text and search for information.

I better hope Google does search better than Apple. Google is mainly a search engine company. If Apple does it better, Google is finished as a search engine company.

The basis and main feature of any voice recognition software is converting voice to text... something that Google's Search does far more accurately and faster than Apple's Siri.

But then, you continue to say how Google only does "one thing," while ignoring that it's "one thing" includes many of the new and highly touted features of Siri- movie trailers and sports.

 

[fsck-y dingo]

I'm not much of a Siri fan. Too slow and robotic sounding for my taste.

Google Search is really nice. The spoken voice is a lot better and voice detection seems more accurate too. Results are faster and a search of what you've asked is displayed automatically when it doesn't know the exact answer.

I wish the iPhone's personal assistant was selectable like a browser's search engine. I'd use this instead of Siri at all times.

 

[2010madone]

has anyone here actually played around with the new Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean to see where Google is really going in terms of voice recognition and other features? i had only ever seen ICS until recently had a Verizon tech show me the Nexus. the only comparison i can make is basically its like Star Trek functionality. . ."computer, take us to light speed" compared to both Siri and the voice recognition technology in ICS

when this gets rolled out to the HD Maxx and s3 in the next month or so it will put the iphone 5 maybe 18 months behind Droid apples to apples. but people here will still stick with apple because. . .of the maps ? of the 7 hour battery life ? because of the inability to multitask applications ? i'm actually not sure why anymore. and i own 28 apple devices and tonight listed my iphone 4s for sale on ebay and will not be back

 

[Brazuca]

has anyone here actually played around with the new Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean to see where Google is really going in terms of voice recognition and other features? i had only ever seen ICS until recently had a Verizon tech show me the Nexus. the only comparison i can make is basically its like Star Trek functionality. . ."computer, take us to light speed" compared to both Siri and the voice recognition technology in ICS

when this gets rolled out to the HD Maxx and s3 in the next month or so it will put the iphone 5 maybe 18 months behind Droid apples to apples. but people here will still stick with apple because. . .of the maps ? of the 7 hour battery life ? because of the inability to multitask applications ? i'm actually not sure why anymore. and i own 28 apple devices and tonight listed my iphone 4s for sale on ebay and will not be back

What did it do?

 

[2010madone]

What did it do?

it took me to light speed

you have to play with it to believe it

 

[hyteckit]

The basis and main feature of any voice recognition software is converting voice to text... something that Google's Search does far more accurately and faster than Apple's Siri.

But then, you continue to say how Google only does "one thing," while ignoring that it's "one thing" includes many of the new and highly touted features of Siri- movie trailers and sports.

You make it sound like I said Google search sucks. I already said it was impressive. Google afterall is mainly a search engine company. I better hope Google does search better than Apple does or Google would be dead.

I have the Google app on my iPhone.

Google app on the iPhone does just do ONE thing. Search for info.

Siri converts voice to text and then routes the commands. The commands isn't just limited to looking up info on the internet. It doesn't just do one thing like the Google app, which is search the internet for information.

Google app: search the internet for information

Siri:
search the internet for information
open apps
play music by artist
add reminders/appoints to calendar
dial a phone number
so forth

 

[cyks]

Google app on the iPhone does just do ONE thing. Search for info.

Siri converts voice to text and then routes the commands. The commands isn't just limited to looking up info on the internet. It doesn't just do one thing like the Google app, which is search the internet for information./

You contiue to ignore that converting voice to text and understanding language is the difficult part... and that is what Google excels in. Everything else is built off if that and, if Siri was nearly as accurate or as fast as Google is, there probably wouldn't be nearly as many complaints or threads about it.

 

[hyteckit]

You contiue to ignore that converting voice to text and understanding language is the difficult part... and that is what Google excels in. Everything else is built off if that and, if Siri was nearly as accurate or as fast as Google is, there probably wouldn't be nearly as many complaints or threads about it.

Who said I was ignoring it?

You are ignoring the fact that I said google search is impressive and that google is better than apple at search because google is primary a search engine company. Google has been doing search for close to 20 years now. How long has Apple been in the search engine business?

But don't ignore the fact Siri does a lot more than the Google app running on my iPhone.

The Google app isn't much different from searching on Google.com.

The Google app does ONE thing. Search the internet for information.

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All this for a product that only took google a few months to make... What are you doing with your time apple??? Show me some legitimate good work that you've done this past year!!

Few months to make?

Haha... come on now. Google has been doing search for close to 20 years. Google had voice search for over 5 years now.

Not really a few months.

 

[hyteckit]

Tried the Google app on iPhone and holy man, that thing runs circles around Siri... The speed of the voice recognition is impressive and it can tolerate mistakes and stutters! The speed at which it gives back answers is Wayy better than Siri too.

Welcome to 2008. Where have you been? Living under a rock?

I had Google voice search on my iPhone since 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y3z7Tw1K17A

All this for a product that only took google a few months to make... What are you doing with your time apple??? Show me some legitimate good work that you've done this past year!!

Not really a few months to make.

Had Google voice search on my iPhone since 2008.

 

[teknikal90]

Welcome to 2008. Where have you been? Living under a rock?

I had Google voice search on my iPhone since 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y3z7Tw1K17A



Not really a few months to make.

Had Google voice search on my iPhone since 2008.

I dont think you understand what I'm trying to say.
We get it that the google voice app on the iPhone is limited and does less than Siri, but the way it implements that, and the way it presents its findings, completely outshines Apple's implementation with Siri and its corresponding Wolfram-Alpha lookup.
For example.... I ask who is the writer of the Harry Potter books...

Siri: takes a while..... "let me think about that"..... then boom, shows me a card with the details of harry potter and JK rowling written on top. Functional? Yes, completely... but then:

Google Now: Instantly knows what I'm asking (it detects what I'm trying to say on-the-fly, word by word as they're spoken) and then boom it says" JK Rowling wrote the Harry Potter literary series"

That is much more than the voice search in your video; that is understanding the query that I'm asking (which was spoken in natural phrase), recognizing that it is a question, finding the relevant information to that question and speaking the relevant answer back to me in a natural voice. That is beyond search, that is the field that Siri introduced to smartphones.

And the point of this thread is me saying that Google Now has beaten Apple in the above functionality, in its own game, with its implementation in Google Now.

Why is it so hard for you to understand?

 

[hyteckit]

I dont think you understand what I'm trying to say.
We get it that the google voice app on the iPhone is limited and does less than Siri, but the way it implements that, and the way it presents its findings, completely outshines Apple's implementation with Siri and its corresponding Wolfram-Alpha lookup.
For example.... I ask who is the writer of the Harry Potter books...

Siri: takes a while..... "let me think about that"..... then boom, shows me a card with the details of harry potter and JK rowling written on top. Functional? Yes, completely... but then:

Google Now: Instantly knows what I'm asking (it detects what I'm trying to say on-the-fly, word by word as they're spoken) and then boom it says" JK Rowling wrote the Harry Potter literary series"

That is much more than the voice search in your video; that is understanding the query that I'm asking (which was spoken in natural phrase), recognizing that it is a question, finding the relevant information to that question and speaking the relevant answer back to me in a natural voice. That is beyond search, that is the field that Siri introduced to smartphones.

And the point of this thread is me saying that Google Now has beaten Apple in the above functionality, in its own game, with its implementation in Google Now.

Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Don't change the subject to from Google app to Google Now.

Your original post was about Google app with voice search saying how awesome it is and how Google only spend a few months on it.

You have been living under a rock. I had google app with voice search since 2008. I just got bored with it and never used it since until the recent update.


Google app voice recognition does only ONE thing: Voice Search
Siri is more than Voice Search. It's Voice commands which includes voice search.
It's not even a 1 to 1 comparison.

What's so hard to understand?

I saw the Google Now test on the video. Isn't much faster than Siri. Google app voice search is fast. Google Now seems to take just as long as Siri.

 

[teknikal90]

Don't change the subject to from Google app to Google Now.

Your original post was about Google app with voice search saying how awesome it is and how Google only spend a few months on it.

You have been living under a rock. I had google app with voice search since 2008. I just got bored with it and never used it since until the recent update.


Google app voice recognition does only ONE thing: Voice Search
Siri is more than Voice Search. It's Voice commands which includes voice search.
It's not even a 1 to 1 comparison.

What's so hard to understand?

I saw the Google Now test on the video. Isn't much faster than Siri. Google app voice search is fast. Google Now seems to take just as long as Siri.

I wasn't changing the subject, i never talked about features vs features.. wow you really don't get it. Lost cause..

 

[cyks]

Don't change the subject to from Google app to Google Now.

Funny since you're the one who was quick to post a video comparing Google Now to Siri and not to Google Search.