Siri0us Voice Dictation Hack Removed From Cydia Over Licensing Issues

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    Siri0us, a package for jailbroken iPhones that brings Siri-like dictation to previous generation iPhones, has been removed from the Cydia store. The developer was forced to remove the package after Nuance, the company that makes the voice recognition technology in Siri0us, refused to sell a license to use its offerings in the program.

    iDownloadBlog reports that Eric Day, the man behind Siri0us, is looking into free alternatives to Nuance. In the meantime, there's no indication how long Siri0us will continue to work for those that already have it installed.

    Article Link: Siri0us Voice Dictation Hack Removed From Cydia Over Licensing Issues
  2. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    IP is a reality. As if Apple was going to allow a Siri-hack, LOL.
  3. adcx64 macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2008
    Knew it wouldn't be long until Apple or Nuance shut them down.
  4. MCP-511 macrumors member

    Oct 18, 2010
  5. Dhelsdon macrumors 65816


    Feb 5, 2010
    Canadian Eh!
    I can confirm this still works, but not sure for how much longer.
  6. EBSkater macrumors member

    Aug 2, 2010
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9A334)

    Don't be ignorant. The license is through Nuance, not . Protecting licenses is important to uphold.
  7. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    Is this the first time something got pulled from Cydia because of a commercial / legal / licensing issue? It's interesting to see Cydia evolve its own processes and rules to respond to legal challenges.
  8. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    are you sure that it was Cydia who pulled it and not the guy who posted it.

    Also it is not the first time Cydia pulled apps. I know in the past they have pulled pirated apps and malware.
  9. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    I guess some of the articles suggest it was voluntary on the part of Day. Interesting to know pirated apps get pulled from Cydia, I didn't know that.
  10. SurfSpirit macrumors member

    Mar 11, 2006
    Android Freedom!

    Freedom of doing whatever you want with YOUR phone, one more reason to go Android!! Makes me think about the original Apple Macintosh ad, 1984 video
  11. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

    Aug 23, 2008
    You do understand that freedom has nothing to do with the topic of discussion?

    "Free" maybe.
  12. TXAppleUser macrumors member


    Nov 30, 2011
    Since when has Cydia cared about licensing issues?
  13. Swift macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Licensing Nuance is right

    They have been at voice recognition for 20 years. Theirs works better than anyone else's that I know. It's a specialized knowledge. I say that Nuance is one of the rather small number of things in software that should be patented, because it's hard to do, and it took a lot of investment, and now they're cashing in. That's the way it should work.

    Codecs are the same thing. It was really, really hard to come up with H.264. It's open, but not free. Fine with me.

    Apple is obviously paying a big licensing fee. That's good.


    When they were threatened with being sued. Because they used Nuance.
  14. macUser2007 macrumors 65832

    May 30, 2007

    Hm, I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple is the main reason for the refusal to grant a license.

    Apple has an interest in users with legacy phones to upgrade to the 4GS, particularly since there is very little else that's noticeable that differentiates the 4GS from the previous generation iPhone.

    Nuance, however, seems perfectly happy to sell its SDK to developers, as you can see here:

    On the other hand, Nuance sells stuff like the Flex-T9 keyboard app for Android, which includes Nuance's Dragon dictation and word recognition technology, as well as the Dragon Go! app for iOS, and may have decided it doesn't want the competition.

    But, if I had to bet, I'd bet on Apple being the culprit.

    BTW, I personally have not found Nuance to be so much better than other similar offerings, and neither Flex-T9, nor Siri, are anywhere near flawless.
  15. jazzplr macrumors newbie

    Sep 14, 2009
    Cydia is not in the business of pirating software, it is in the business of providing non-Apple approved software. It's this kind of thinking that gives jailbreaking a bad name.
  16. gorskiegangsta macrumors 65816


    Mar 13, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    You mean freedom for carriers, not customers... because Verizon will happily sell you an Android phone loaded with craplets you cannot remove, HTC and Motorola will happily sell you their handsets with a skin you cannot remove... So, does the customer truly have the freedom to do "whatever [they] want" with THEIR Android phone??
  17. APlotdevice, Nov 30, 2011
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2011

    APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    It didn't seem like that big of a deal anyway. The hack only allowed dictation, and Nuance already offers a free dictation app in the app store.

    Nuance also offers the far more useful "Dragon Go!" for free.
  18. lilcosco08 macrumors 65816


    May 27, 2010
  19. Sphynx macrumors newbie

    Sep 14, 2010
    Glad it wasn't using the Siri servers (I have a 4S and would hate to see the servers bogged down by the influx of jailbroken non 4S siri users), but its a bummer to see that I won't be able to see this hack on my iPad 2.
  20. AmpSkillz, Nov 30, 2011
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2011

    AmpSkillz macrumors regular


    May 30, 2010
    I'm everywhere & you're never there
    how is Dragon Go! far more useful?
  21. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    Because unlike this hack it actually lets you look things up with your voice. And it even integrates with other apps. Something Siri doesn't yet do.
  22. OUTofPRINT macrumors newbie

    Jul 8, 2009
    I thought the point of cydia was so you didn't have to deal with licensing/legal issues...
  23. Don Kosak macrumors 6502a

    Don Kosak

    Mar 12, 2010
    Hilo, Hawaii
    Well, really, the whole point of Cydia is to have a legitimate marketplace for people who want to sell or give away iPhone Apps and Extensions that Apple decided not to offer in the App Store.

    So things like springboard customization, new icons, and tools like SSH have a home for tinkerers.

    It's not really about piracy (even though it's sometimes portrayed that way.)
  24. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    No, the point is to get around the restrictions Apple has put on apps sold in the app store. This is perfectly legal in and of itself.
  25. roadbloc macrumors G3


    Aug 24, 2009
    Bah. Disappointment prevails as I was probably going to JailBreak my iPhone 4 and grab that when I had a spare afternoon. I do hope it makes it back onto Cydia. I refuse to buy a whole new phone for a feature that will work perfectly well on my previous generation one.

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