2GB of RAM is so 2013Should added the 4GB RAM instead of the previous 2016-2017 2GB.
Just look how much they care about the environment with the way they built their stuff
Most people don’t want to fix stuff. Most people don’t want to open the insides of products to upgrade them. They use the product until it doesn’t work any more and then they buy a new one.
Name me one other thing besides a human face at about 1 ft. distance that the front camera will ever be pointed-at. The front camera doesn't need to have any more resolution than a 1st generation webcam, sorry. And at Apple's quantities, "not much higher" adds up pretty darn fast.2018 and Apple still give this crappy 1,2 MP front camera from iPhone 5... I know it is cheap iPad but mounting 5 MP from iPhone 6S wouldn't make price much higher, if at all. I don't know about other people, but I use front camera for conversation more often than rear camera (FaceTime, Skype).
But I understand that for student rear camera is more important (scanning documents or AR)...
I assume there was a missing Sarcasm tag?Did they say zero upgradeability? No PCI slots? No socketed CPU? No ability to upgrade storage? Not even external RAID support. Fail.
They generally throw them in a pile to be sent out for repair during the Summer, or at best, a few times during the year.I am wondering, if the screen of those chromebooks broke, would schools be able to actually “repair” them? I mean serious question. I don’t think schools stock spare parts. If they need to send those to the manufactures, then how is it different in practice than the iPads?
And oh, great job comparing a $1500 HP surface clone with a $300 iPad.
Name me one other thing besides a human face at about 1 ft. distance that the front camera will ever be pointed-at. The front camera doesn't need to have any more resolution than a 1st generation webcam, sorry. And at Apple's quantities, "not much higher" adds up pretty darn fast.
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I assume there was a missing Sarcasm tag?
I read that whole article and it was pretty much constant blaming of the tech manufacturers. Funny really isn't it that all but one of the pictures with piles of illegally dumped eWaste was in China and even though the government could put measures in place to reduce or even eradicate the problem they haven't done anything about it for years. I wonder why that wasn't mentioned in the article?This will inevitably lead to yet more eWaste especially being in the educational sector where they will be subjected to high usage.
The dumping of eWaste in developing countries is a very real issue one that many feel uncomfortable speaking about
http://uk.businessinsider.com/photo...s-when-those-shiny-new-toys-go-out-of-style-1
I didn't say anything about the Rear cameras. They have to be as high-resolution as the price-point will allow.That does not explain why Apple put 7MP camera on iPad Pro line and 12MP camera on the back of iPad Pro.
Okay, but not really answering my question.It depends on the school district and how the contracts are setup. The school district I work in we use Lenovo windows laptops. With the purchase it includes 3 years warranty and the district has a contract for accidental damages for 5 years. So it doesn't cost the school for repairs of the laptops. Unless people want to be technical and say we'll the district pays for it and that money could have been spent elsewhere.
The laptops we purchase are $209 for non touch and $230 for touch screen.
I have used my iPad 2 DAILY for nearly 8 hours per day, every single day. I charge it nearly from "flat" to full-charge every day, or at most, every-other-day, 7 days a week, 365 days per year, since I got it as a Christmas gift from my employer in 2012.Charging port?
Battery last 5 years? You realize these iPads will be used for 5-6 hours per day throughout the school year? This seems like alot more tine than what a regular consumer would spend on an iPad daily. Hence, increasing battery wear. 6 hours per day is roughly 1 charging cycle, 180 school days in the year and using Apples 500 cycles that batteries should last for would result in a battery replacement in under 3 years. Battery replacement is 1/3 the cost of the edu iPad.
Again, not really answering the question I had.Yes spare parts are stocked and available / things can be fixed. Some companies like ASUS specifically make modular units for this reason such as: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ASUS-Chromebook-C202SA/
I've fixed plenty of smashed screened iPads which is a hassle as well with third party components... Honestly we use a lot of Apple products such as Airs, iMacs and Macbooks. Those are more expensive though honestly last longer and have a lot more use in a secondary setting. In all honesty I have 2008 Macbooks still in service repaired & upgraded while our 2012 iPad 2s are essentially trash for all but basic tasks due to 32-bit architecture etc. It's annoying that Apple is pushing iPads with third party keyboard cases instead of a redesigned durable Macbook for the education environment... though that's their priority as a company I suppose, but this "event" / release was a shoulder shrug and won't bolster interest from schools that wasn't already there. It would've been great to see a more modular redesign at least, though clearly they didn't want to go that route.
If it's non accidental damage, such as a screen goes bad or keyboard not working etc in the 3 year warranty, then a vendor comes onsite within 48 hours of reporting the issue and fixes it onsite.Okay, but not really answering my question.
If those Lenovo laptops' screens broke, do you have the LCD parts in stock to repair them on site, or do you have to send them to Lenovo for repair? If it's the latter, then it doesn't matter how "fixable" a device is in practice, as schools would just send the iPads to Apple for repair. The argument that iFixIt made is moot in practice.
Err, Steve Jobs introduced the aluminum unibody Macboks and Macbook Air (less repairable than previous Macbooks).Not trying to stay in business iFixit promote user repairability. I have repaired and upgraded countless Mac products with some guidance sourced from excellent iFixit tutorials. Yes users could at one time easily repair and service their own Macs but that was before Tim Cook and when Apple became driven by money and greed.
Remember if the user can repair it then the opportunity is there to help reduce illegally dumped eWaste.
How do you know the contracts with schools don't have Apple or their service contractors come on-site?If it's non accidental damage, such as a screen goes bad or keyboard not working etc in the 3 year warranty, then a vendor comes onsite within 48 hours of reporting the issue and fixes it onsite.
If it's accidental damage a different vendor comes and picks it up and repairs it off-site then return it to the school.
After the warranty of 5 years is up then the technicians on site at the schools (every school in my district has 1) is free to piece together broken ones to make working laptops.
I guess ease of repair reduces repair cost. The iPads already cost more to purchase, will be more to repair and possibly take longer and the warranty is shorter. After the warranty is up the technicians on site at each school may not be able to do repairs themselves.
It depends on the school district and how the contracts are setup. The school district I work in we use Lenovo windows laptops. With the purchase it includes 3 years warranty and the district has a contract for accidental damages for 5 years. So it doesn't cost the school for repairs of the laptops. Unless people want to be technical and say we'll the district pays for it and that money could have been spent elsewhere.
The laptops we purchase are $209 for non touch and $230 for touch screen.
Well I can only speak for my district. We dont have any vendors on contract that comes on site to fix any Apple products. (we have MacBook Air, pros, iPads and iMac).Err, Steve Jobs introduced the aluminum unibody Macboks and Macbook Air (less repairable than previous Macbooks).
Also, Steve Jobs introduced the less user-repairable iMacs as well.
But yeah, keep hating on Tim Cook, the person that Jobs groomed himself.
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How do you know the contracts with schools don't have Apple or their service contractors come on-site?
Right to repair is not at odds with environmentally friendly manufacturing or a companies recycling policies.They should stop claiming to be an environmentally conscious company if this is how they’re going to keep making their products. 18 states have introduced “right to repair” bills and I think it would only take the passage of such a law in a few states to force Apple’s policies to change. Fingers crossed.
[doublepost=1522772672][/doublepost]Or upgradable??While I have no bone with the claims, what iPad has ever been "repairable"? I can't think of anything out of Apple's stables in the past decade that has been highly repairable. On the other end, how many Chromebooks are repairable, even if they are, why not just replace them since shop time and costs to repair a Chromebook may get close to a new one.
Then add in the cost of Apple care, a keyboard, pencil and a case. The $209 already includes the 3 year warranty and Microsoft office....and when you get to the quantities that allowed you to buy Lenovo laptops for that much, the iPad 6 won't be $299 per unit, either (probably about as much as your non-touch Lenovo example, if I had to guess). But since those are negotiated on a case-by-case basis, I can't show you any examples.