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Awesome!
So when someone decides to steal your iPhone, they must now use a cigar cutter to cut off your thumb too or the phone is not accessible.
 
Awesome!
So when someone decides to steal your iPhone, they must now use a cigar cutter to cut off your thumb too or the phone is not accessible.
I know you are joking. But I could imagine this actually becoming a problem as soon as something as fingerprints for phones becomes wide-spread. Not that I would hope for it to really happen but if it only happens once, people will panic.
 
It's not necessarily the users fault. With the iPhone 4 design, dust got behind the button easily which decreased it's functionality. I know for me, I had to click 3-4 times to get the fast app switching drawer to pop up( when it should take 2) on my old 4. Or I had to click twice to go to the home screen.

Same here...

Absolutely not Apple quality right there.

However, a capacity button I'm still not sure about.

Let's see what they come up with.

My next iPhone will be next year's, so if they fu** it up this time, they have plenty of time to fix it till I'm in the market for a new one again haha :D

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This is barely any, actually if any better than them moving headphone jack to the bottom of the phone.

Authenticating with a single press instead of typing in passwords for the lock screen, apps, and a zillion websites (all which seem to have different password requirements) is a much bigger deal than moving the headphone jack. Especially so for complicated passwords with lots of weird characters in them.
 
Been using Zephyr for about a year now and it's great and simple so I hope Apple implements a capacitive button with great gestures to make everything simpler and faster than clicking a home button!!
 
That is the only way I think :apple: could implement a finger print reader without destroying the basic design ideas of iDevices.
Still not really need it ... Will not stop me neither to get a 5S
 
Apple is expected to do away with the traditional physical home button, which has long been one of the most unreliable components on iOS devices.

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration. I've repaired thousands of iDevices in the past year and only a few times have I seen a factory home button go bad.
 
Awesome!
So when someone decides to steal your iPhone, they must now use a cigar cutter to cut off your thumb too or the phone is not accessible.

I believe the fingerprint sensor technology is sophisticated enough to require living fingers.
 
I'm one of them. I had an iPhone 3G that had a home button fail well before my contract ran out, and my iPhone 4's home button is starting to flake on me. It's pretty common, actually. It's the reason I won't buy an iPad until this gets fixed. I'll be damned if I'm going to drop $500 on something that is rendered useless by a broken button.

I think you're hitting the button too hard because this kind of thing is the exception not the rule and I doubt your iPad will have a failed button.
 
I hope to be so rich one day, that I don't need to worry about scratches or cases for my phone. I will just buy a new one for every hairline scratch that appears :p
 
I'm impressed that Apple finally admitted the old fashioned push button is highly problematic.

Conversely, the capacitive buttons I've had over the years on various Android phones have worked perfectly. They've been as reliable as the touchscreen on my iPhones. Not a single failure.

Another huge advantage is having the identical tactile feed back no matter what you're doing. Unaffected by debris, dust or moisture, they make perfect sense.

Once, or if, Apple finally adopts this modern technology the need to buy a new phone just because Apple's button failed, will no longer exist. How sweet!
 
They should make the entire glass front out of sapphire crystal. It's an incredible material, as evidenced by my pristine watches featuring sapphire. I'd gladly pay the premium!

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Would Apple want to make a fully indestructible device? They would hurt their case partners bottom line.

It's also the same logic on why we would never seen a greater battery life. Those external battery accessory residuals play a role.

I don't think Apple give a **** about their "case partners". Also, with the iPhone, they probably don't care that much about planned obsolescence. I mean, even if my 4S were physically indestructible I'd be hankering for a new phone right about now, simply because it's getting sloooooooooow.
 
So exactly how hard would it be to fool a capacitive fingerprint sensor with a lifted fingerprint? My iPod Touch can detect my fingers still even when wearing nitrile exam type gloves so the idea that a finger has to be living to be used to pass a sensor test doesn't impress me. It seems like I could easily lift a print with a similar conductive material and place it over my thumb with the conductive material in-between and the sensor would detect my biometrics but read the overlaid thumb print belonging to someone else (movies often show just how easy it is to lift prints, particularly in social situations).

Now maybe I'm missing something here in this technology that somehow magically bypasses any and every possible way of fooling it (somehow I doubt it) so without more information/proof, I wouldn't trust it as far as I could spit. In other words, this sensor is supposed to replace passwords??? REALLY? Thanks, but no thanks.

Frankly, I think the iWatch idea of setting a password on the watch ONCE and then wearing it all day and having it reset automatically when it's taken off your wrist to be a more intriguing idea, but then if it's transmitting the password over the air, even encrypted, it could be recorded and duplicated to play back to the device. It might need a rotating code scheme like garage door openers now use or something to that effect.

One way or another, as these devices increasingly are used like credit cards or are storing potentially sensitive ID or other important information, the question of just how good the security really is becomes more and more important. Frankly, even a 4-digit code has to have a limit on entry tries before the device hard locks and/or erases itself since there's only 10k possibilities there to begin with. I'd like to see some stats on just how effective this fingerprint reader really is in real world situations in combating attempts to fool it as I'm considering above.
 
My old 4 home button failed twice, and at the time almost everyone I knew with a 4 had the same problem. Definitely an issue back then, illustrated by the ease with I swapped it, no questions asked, at the Apple store twice.

Not heard if the 5's button suffers the same issue. Mine doesn't, it's still perfect, but I only use it to switch it on, Zephyr for the switcher bar.
 
I wouldn't mind getting rid of the physical home button. Not a huge fan of the Capacitive ones either.

I would love a buttonless iPhone like the N9, but lets be real. I don't think a 1/4 of the US is ready for a gesture/swipe UI iPhone.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I used my home button. I've had Zephyr & Activator on my 4S since I bought it ;) :p
 
Authenticating with a single press instead of typing in passwords for the lock screen, apps, and a zillion websites (all which seem to have different password requirements) is a much bigger deal than moving the headphone jack. Especially so for complicated passwords with lots of weird characters in them.

^This. Is exactly why I'm putting of my 1Password purchase. ;)

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I believe the fingerprint sensor technology is sophisticated enough to require living fingers.

Just run electric current through it. ;)
 
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