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so whats the final word on temp..

i walk to school which is about 13 minutes. Outside temp is around 10F these days. So should i put my ibook to sleep or not? I almost never shut it down...
thanks
 
Re: so whats the final word on temp..

Originally posted by abhishekit
i walk to school which is about 13 minutes. Outside temp is around 10F these days. So should i put my ibook to sleep or not? I almost never shut it down...
thanks
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Either way... I'd give it some warm up time though, just because of that screen. I don't usually leave mine in the car in the winter (or summer for that matter) but I always sleep it. It's in a neoprene bag inside another bag, but sometimes it's cold.

As long as there's no frost on the outside, the inside isn't as cold as the case. 🙂
 
Originally posted by Mantat
Good luck, its probably going to be in a lot of months... Its a great seller as it is right now and doesnt need an power upgrade for a while. My guess is that we wont see it until the G5 PB or 8 months. Which ever come first...

Back to topic:
This is a great thread, I learned a few usefull thing!
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I would bet that there will be a new revision (i.e. small upgrade, speed bump, etc) before that machine is 1 year old. Apple has a 6-9 month revision cycle. I'm not holding out for G5, just the next revision.
 
Originally posted by Mantat
Good luck, its probably going to be in a lot of months... Its a great seller as it is right now and doesnt need an power upgrade for a while. My guess is that we wont see it until the G5 PB or 8 months. Which ever come first...

Back to topic:
This is a great thread, I learned a few usefull thing!
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Mantat, I think you are right that G5 Powerbook will not be available until September time. However we may see a final G4 speedbump in Feb/March. I have seen rumors suggesting Powerbooks could get speedbumped to 1.4 GHz. However no-one knows for sure outside Apple.
 
Originally posted by michaelrjohnson
I would bet that there will be a new revision (i.e. small upgrade, speed bump, etc) before that machine is 1 year old. Apple has a 6-9 month revision cycle. I'm not holding out for G5, just the next revision.
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Just remember that the next PowerBook revision will be the last G4 revision before the G5s (IMO)...
 
Either way, they are incredible machines. Once you do buy one, I am sure you will be pleased with your purchase. I got mine in September with the latest revision and had a few doubts since I was so eager for a G5, but I have to admit that despite what people say about the G4, it is a really impressive chip, and paired with the Radeon 9600, it's one wonderful package.
 
I think we're spoiled by the fact that OS X wakes up so fast on PowerBooks. OS 9 was awful, just about as fast to startup as it was to wake from sleep. The only thing I have to wait for (if you consider five seconds a wait) is my network connection to filter through my connections and find one.

So chuckle softly at our PC counterparts as they boot and wait while we just open and go.

cpjakes
 
Wake up on my PowerBook G3 400 MHz under OS 9.2 was instant. I kept a lean system folder, though, and disabled the extensions that I never used or needed. One thing that can increase wake up speed is disabling the ethernet if you are using dialup since it takes it time to check the port to see if there is a signal coming on it and waits for a few moments before moving on. If you are using ethernet, however, you shouldn't disable it and it'd be instant anyway since there will be a valid network signal for it to find.
 
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Wake up on my PowerBook G3 400 MHz under OS 9.2 was instant. I kept a lean system folder, though, and disabled the extensions that I never used or needed. One thing that can increase wake up speed is disabling the ethernet if you are using dialup since it takes it time to check the port to see if there is a signal coming on it and waits for a few moments before moving on. If you are using ethernet, however, you shouldn't disable it and it'd be instant anyway since there will be a valid network signal for it to find.
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that i think is a key point, OS 9 boot times were fast, but they weren't GREAT unless you took the effort to keep a lean system folder.

thanks for the advice/encouragement regarding my future purchase. i feel that a rev. b 15 al Powerbook will suit my needs just fine (even though im a graphic designer) for a few years. then, when i can afford a new machine, i'll buy the mythical powerbook G5!
 
The PowerBook G5 is like the unicorn. Many seek to find this mythical beast of majesty, but no mortal can ever possess such a creature for it is allusive and beyond grasp. But, the PowerBook G4 is quite easy to come by at any local Apple reseller.
 
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Originally posted by appleretailguy
if you are not going to use your powerbook for more than 24 hours, turn it off, it less than that, just close it or put it to sleep. PERIOD.
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I'd say the threshold ought to be more than just 24 hours for most Mac notebooks. I've left my 15" AlBook sleeping for the better part of a week with some battery left. The 12" iBook G3 has slept for about 2 weeks without problems, but it also gets much better battery life in general. I can't honestly think of any time when the battery was completely drained due to sleep.

Rebooting is such a drag - not because of silly geek 'uptime' status, but simply because you have to quit everything you're doing instead of leaving things in progress. That's the biggest reason why I always sleep my laptops and never shutdown or sleep the desktop at all.
 
you can reduce the bootup times by typing this at the terminal
sudo ln -s /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheControl /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

i m sure most of you know it..but still for some who dont...
 
For the record I started using my TiBook in November 2002, I never shut down, always sleep. I usually use it all day, (Except the weekends it might sleep all weekend.) and charge it at night. Unless I forget or am lazy. Then I charge it a bit here or there throughout the day.

Sure my battery is getting weaker from all that abuse, but I still get over 2 hours out of it. (With everything on including airport.) I figure I will buy a replacement battery this summer.
 
about sleeping or shutting down, is there any way you can actually damage the hard drive if you move the powerbook while it is awake or asleep, as in the apple user manual? I can see what they are saying, but has this ever happened to anyone? thanks
–Chase
 
i don't think i have had my 12" pb shut down since i've bought it in september when they came out with the new revision (traded in my 1.8 G5 with the 30-day money back guarentee, haven't regretted it for one second). when i take it to class, i just throw it in my bag, then open my lid and i'm ready to go. my astronomy teacher taught at berkley in CA last year, which, according to him, is a big mac campus. so from day 1 when he saw the 12" shining apple powerbook, i was a teacher's pet without even trying, it rocked.

back on topic, as i said above, i haven't shut my 12" down yet, but i would definitley reccomend shutting it down if you know it's going to be in below operating temperatures for an extended period of time, and give it some thaw time before you start her up again. you can never be too cautious when it comes to leaving a laptop in the cold, although to me it's like leaving a baby in the freezing cold 🙂
 
Originally posted by rendezvouscp
about sleeping or shutting down, is there any way you can actually damage the hard drive if you move the powerbook while it is awake or asleep, as in the apple user manual? I can see what they are saying, but has this ever happened to anyone? thanks
–Chase
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theoretically if you shake or move the hard drive while it is spinning, you can cause the drive heads to hit the disk, which could corrupt data or physically damage the disk itself.

when shut down, everything is obviously powered down, so no problems there. when on sleep, the computer stores active programs and such in the ram, so the hard drive isn't spinning; safe for transport, but i wouldn't use her as a hockey puck either 🙂 i try not to move around the computer too much when it's up and running just because in the rare event something ever did happen to my baby, i'd never forgive myself 🙂 like i said in my above post, way better to be safe than sorry.
 
I would just like to add that when you close the lid on my iBook to put it to sleep Apple recommends that you wait until the sleep light starts pulsating before moving the computer around too much.
 
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