Sleep tracking in WatchOS8? Better? Same?

[honglong1976]

Hi everyone,

for those who have installed WatchOS8. How is the sleep app? Any extra feature? REM, light, deep sleep, etc. Or the same?

Thanks

 

[dazcox5181]

Same as far as I can tell...

 

[SamboSoul]

They missed out on this big time. Would have loved to see more advanced features to the likes of Autosleep

 

[ediks]

i have a question, is the breathing rate during sleep available for apple watch SE and other or is it just for the series 6?

 

[Midway123]

I have watchos8 but do not see any difference. I am unable to find the announced respiratory rate, does anyone know where to look?

 

[Pxlkid]

It is exactly what I would want personally. For those who want to stress out about sleep data there is always sleep++ etc. Hope they never change it, its the most helpful aspect of watch os IMO

 

[honglong1976]

It is exactly what I would want personally. For those who want to stress out about sleep data there is always sleep++ etc. Hope they never change it, its the most helpful aspect of watch os IMO

It may be the most basic and poorly implemented sleep tracking out of any smart watch I have used.

It should track automatically, without using a clock app on the phone. The whole thing seems a mess and an afterthought. The wake-up screen is just as bad. You wake up and it detects you are up, but then you have to confirm it first. Many times, I have woken up, been up for about 2 hours, forgot about the notification and then once I click it, it thinks that's the moment I have woken up.

My suggestions for the Apple Watch:
- Sleep should be automatic without any user intervention.
- If you want to set an alarm, sure, set one on the phone or watch.
- More info, light, deep, REM, etc.
- Using Podcasts works through the Apple Watch speaker (set a timer when to turn off).

 

[Apple_Robert]

It may be the most basic and poorly implemented sleep tracking out of any smart watch I have used.

It should track automatically, without using a clock app on the phone. The whole thing seems a mess and an afterthought. The wake-up screen is just as bad. You wake up and it detects you are up, but then you have to confirm it first. Many times, I have woken up, been up for about 2 hours, forgot about the notification and then once I click it, it thinks that's the moment I have woken up.

My suggestions for the Apple Watch:
- Sleep should be automatic without any user intervention.
- If you want to set an alarm, sure, set one on the phone or watch.
- More info, light, deep, REM, etc.
- Using Podcasts works through the Apple Watch speaker (set a timer when to turn off).

I think Apple has very rudimentary tracking to help save battery life. Even if Apple had a toggle to allow for much better tracking, people would still get irate and complain about battery life because of the app. It is really a no real win for Apple, in my opinion.

 

[honglong1976]

I think Apple has very rudimentary tracking to help save battery life. Even if Apple had a toggle to allow for much better tracking, people would still get irate and complain about battery life because of the app. It is really a no real win for Apple, in my opinion.

I don't think that's the case. All the sleep tracking apps use the data that the Apple Watch collects anyway. You would think the native one would be even better, but it isn't. Apple has a ton a resources, they bought Beddit and their sleep tracking is by far the worst out of all the sleep trackers.

I raised a ticket with Apple years ago, such as when the Apple Watch is off the wrist, turn off WIFI/Bluetooth, sensors, etc, so save battery. Then when you pick it up, it kicks in to gear! Pebble did this and it saved power. Apple Watch, no.

I also asked about turning WIFI/Bluetooth off when it detects you are sleeping and turn it on when you wake up. Nothing.

There are ways to save power and I don't have any skill compared to the Apple Devs.

Currently, I am using a Garmin Vivomove Style for sleep tracking (I also use it for Ant+ to send HR to my cycle computer).

Another basic thing. We are on Watch OS 8 and there is still no way to send the HR to something.

Honestly, I love the vibration of the Apple Watch (it's brilliant), the convenience of Apple Pay (again, brilliant), the simplicity of the straps (an absolutely incredible design for watch straps), but as a fitness device, considering how powerful it is, it sucks! (for me and my needs).

 

[Pxlkid]

I guess it depends on what you want from an app like this. If you just want a load of numbers to look at, then yes the sleep app is sorely lacking compared to others. I’m more interested in useable data. I am trying to improve my sleep habits and as such the sleep app is way more helpful than any other app I’ve tried (including sleep++, pillow, autosleep).

 

[honglong1976]

I guess it depends on what you want from an app like this. If you just want a load of numbers to look at, then yes the sleep app is sorely lacking compared to others. I’m more interested in useable data. I am trying to improve my sleep habits and as such the sleep app is way more helpful than any other app I’ve tried (including sleep++, pillow, autosleep).

Maybe my expectations are too high. Apple is a trillion-dollar company that purchased Beddit. I would expect their sleep tracking to be slightly better than a £10 sleep tracker from eBay.

If took about 5 years to get sleep tracking. I would imagine the sleep app gets updated about 2024.

 

[Mistborn15]

The default sleep tracker is there just to tick a box. Even the 2016 Gear S3 had much better sleep tracking. But yeah, I can understand the battery concerns since the Apple Watch cant even last 2 days with a workout or two

 

[Pxlkid]

I really hope it is that long before it gets an update. I really don’t want it to have any more fluff!