Sling Tv vs Direct Tv Now

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  1. dariosaurusrex macrumors newbie

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    I want to cut my cable bill and I am checking out SlingTv and DirectTvnow.
    I like sling so far and I am testing the blue and orange subscription. I cant see local channels unless I switch to regular input or get an homerun box.

    I also like that direct tv includes the free local channels, is a bit cheaper than sling but no Dvr option.

    Suggestions?!?
     
  2. 2010mini macrumors 68040

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    Try PSVue. Best of them In my honest opinion. What you really should do is sit the family down and list all the shows/channels you really watch. Then see just what services offer those. If you can get most of them with an antenna, then you are ahead of the game.

    But here is a comparison of the current services:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...-vs-playstation-vue-channel-lineups-compared/
     
  3. maflynn Moderator

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    I have PS Vue and I agree, it's the best.

    When I was doing my research, I found that PS Vue had for the price the best channel selection, and services like DVR. DirectTVNow came in second and then Sling. I'm paying 35 dollars a month where as for a similar channel selection, I'd be paying 50 dollars for DirectTVNow and with Vue I have DVR where as DirectTV Now doesn't offer that.
     
  4. archvile macrumors regular

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    I use DirecTV Now, if you already have an Apple TV it works great. Only downside is their browser requirement of Chrome, but I never watch it on my Mac anyways so it's not a huge deal. Only reason I haven't considered PS Vue is th PS4 is such a huge power draw, and I will sometimes have TV just playing as background noise, I didn't want it to run up my electric bill (OG PS4). Apple TV draws much less power and, well, I'm a penny pincher/frugal when it comes to things like that.
     
  5. HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 603

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    archvile, you do not appear to realize that PS Vue (the service) is entirely separate from PS4, much like your DirecTV Now service doesn't require SATT dish installation and a DirecTV Genie box. Take a visit to the :apple:TV app store and search for PS Vue.
     
  6. archvile macrumors regular

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    Yes I am completely aware it is a standalone service, but I did not know they had apps for Apple TV. I was under the thinking it was for PlayStation systems only (due to it being labeled as such). I'll take a second look into this if this is the case and see if they have better plans/pricing tiers.
     
  7. dariosaurusrex thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How's the tv UI on Psvue, I am not too crazy about the sling one. But for the same price, like I said currently I have orange and blue + kids Add on, on vue looks like I'd get more out of it.
     
  8. HobeSoundDarryl, Jun 21, 2017
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    If you don't have many TVs to connect (don't count iDevices in the TV count), you might want to look at the other service from the owners of Sling. DISH's $49.99 "price lock" gets you a traditional 'cable' package for about what you are probably paying for orange + blue + kids and you also get a REAL, fully functional DVR, arguably better quality HD picture, 5.1 surround sound instead of only stereo or mono, a unified on-screen guide for everything that is available, local channels via SATT and woven right into the same on-screen guide via OTA antenna, not a byte of video counting against a broadband cap, with a price locked at $50/month for 2-3 years. Don't want channels you never watch to show in the guide? They are easily hidden by making a favorites list so that you can basically display only the channels you want to see (while still being able to get to the others if they DO have something you want to watch at some point). Want easy streaming to iDevices? Dish Anywhere app brings it all to iDevices at home and away.

    I've shopped all of the streaming services but there's many tradeoffs to save maybe $10 to maybe $30/month in my own case (the latter if I gave up some programming that I do like). Frankly, in my own case, after working so hard to assemble a nice home theater (several times since way back into the 1990's), just the sacrifice of 5.1 surround sound alone makes the "savings" not worth it to me. Then, dealing with software DVRs that auto-delete shows after a finite number of days and/or can't skip commercials, etc makes the DVRs less appealing to me. I subjectively believe picture quality is a little less than SATT (which- like sound- seems to be a step back, as we're all transitioning to get better HD or even 4K TV sets). Etc. From my perspective, the whole streaming proposition seems to be increasingly a "you get what you pay for" alternative instead of a good way to maintain but save big...

    The one weak link of the traditional options is if someone has many TVs to connect, as each TV requires a box and each box beyond the first one has a lease fee. However, if a home has only a TV or two (maybe 3), even the lease fees for extra boxes can still keep the total bill competitive with total streaming costs, without the sacrifices and sometimes hassles. Often when one drops cable, their broadband-only rate rises which can offset some of this cost. Personally, I continue to hope DISH will port their Dish Anywhere app to :apple:TV which would make :apple:TV good (other) TV boxes that don't require a lease fee.

    Lots of people are chasing a monthly discount and think streaming services are the ONLY option. However, streaming has made some traditional players roll out more competitive offerings. Personally I continue with DISH for now.

    If you are generally happy with cable except the cost, you might want to also check bundling deals. In my area broadband + cable + voice can be had as a cable bundle for $90/month. Broadband unbundled can get into the same general price point or more. If you have such bundling options, but pricing has inflated well beyond that pricing, line up your alternatives and then threaten to cancel your cable services. The threat call can get you 1 or 2 years of new customer bundled pricing to stick with cable (and video doesn't count against a broadband cap, you get a real DVR, 5.1 surround sound, etc). at the end of 1 or 2 years, be ready to call up and threaten to cancel and they'll probably be able to find you another 1 or 2 year specially-priced deal.

    If you are mentally locked into the idea that you must go streaming, PS Vue seems to get the consensus on best ratings. But of course, the best choice for you is the good service that includes the channels, programming and services you actually desire. Post #2 above includes a link that does a good job comparing the major services.
     
  9. nburwell macrumors 68040

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    The UI for PS Vue could use some improving, compared to DIRECTV Now. However, like some others mentioned, I feel that PS Vue is the best out of the bunch for us cord cutters. Granted it's certainly not a perfect service. However, it gives my wife and I the best option for the channels that we typically watch. Other than sporting events, we don't watch much live TV. So we frequently use the DVR to record shows and watch them at our leisure.
     
  10. dariosaurusrex thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I am with xfinity comcast, i have 25mbps internet plus their 220 channel package, bunch of kids channels included, the other option is to downgrade to basic cable is 10 channels, that also includes hbo free for 3 months and dvr and they're charging me about $150... internet by itself is about $29, the rest is tv and fees... i stream everything to 2 tvs (both with :apple:TVs) , then i have the kids ipad and occasionally i watch something on my phone or my laptop. that's why i figured if i can get internet for that price plus 45 for PSvue it can save me some money
     
  11. HobeSoundDarryl, Jun 21, 2017
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    As is, going from $150 to probably about $40-$60/month + only $29 for internet is definitely going to save you some money. Are you sure the $29 will provide reasonably fast broadband as you'll be burning much more data feeding up to your 2 TVs with video streams, plus any internet browsing to computing devices. Typically, if one goes broadband only with Comcast, the price is at least about $45/month up to about $80/month (or more for higher speeds you may not need).

    So you are right that you will save money by switching. But with only 2 TVs to feed, you could switch to pretty much ANYTHING else (SATT and other cable providers included) and save money. Or you could potentially keep what you have but pay less for it...

    Xfinity is the same cable provider where I am and they have the "triple play" (broadband + cable + voice) for $90/month. Shop for what you have as if you are a new customer or do a search for "Xfinity bundle plans" and similar and see if you can basically find what you have for a comparable price like that. I just typed in "Comcast Bundle Deals Houston TX" and the 2-year $89.99 triple play offer popped right up. Or Internet + TV is $79.99 for 2 years.

    Then, if you like what you have except the price, line up your favored alternative and call Comcast threatening to quit them unless you get a much better deal. They'll probably try higher-priced offers than $80-$90/month to which you need to say, "I want the $90 triple play deal I see advertised" (or double play or whatever is most relevant for you). They'll say that's only for new customers to which you have to continue to say you're going to cancel. They'll either bend to keep you or you do in fact, cancel and move on to another option like your favored streaming service(s) and/or that $49.99 DISH price lock option I mentioned. Odds are good that Comcast will bend to keep you if you give them as much opportunity as possible to arrive at giving you a good price. It might take being on the phone for an hour or so to get there.

    Once you get it, it's probably good for either 12 or 24 months. Mark your calendar accordingly and proactively call them when it's time for promotional to shift to "regular" and do the same thing again. Consider this no different than "shopping around" for a better price for anything else.

    One other option if you prefer to keep Xfinity but want the lower price (and can't get it by threatening to quit). Cancel ahead of your next family vacation. When you get back, sign back up as a new customer. Or cancel and try the steaming services for a few weeks or a month and then sign back up as a new customer. Either way, I'm confident you can stick with what you have for considerably less than you are paying OR switch to that $50/month deal from DISH if you don't really want the compromises that come with streaming.

    It looks highly likely that you have at least one other cable service provider in your area. If so, what is their deal? And if you prefer Comcast to them, use their deal in your conversation with Comcast. They find a way to give special deals when it's a cancel call pointing out direct competition at lower price. In the past, I played Comcast vs. AT&T Uverse against each other to manage the promotional pricing extensions. Competition is good!
     
  12. dariosaurusrex thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I am gonna have to try again, that is exactly what i have 89.99 + free hbo... 25mbps internet + 220 channels, a few months i had the blast service 100mbps and i called cause my internet was slow, and was told that actually in my area i can't get that kind of speed, while i've already paid for it for 6 months.... most recently when i called cause i received a higher bill they pretty much told me that true the deal is 89.99 but the rest is broadcast fees and what not ... i would love to stay with comcast if can get it down to that you know, and still use the apple tv...
    thanks again Darryl, stay tuned hahaha!!
     
  13. HobeSoundDarryl, Jun 21, 2017
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    Oh I see. Then, I definitely suggest lining up a favored alternative and trying the (threaten to) cancel conversation with them, opting to cancel and switch if necessary. There are often a few taxes, etc but not enough to go from $89.99 to $150, so something else is in there. Maybe you are renting the modem which here is an extra $8-$15/month? If so, buy that kind of modem and get rid of that fee. This link to recommended Xfinity/Comcast Broadband modems will probably work for you too: https://mydeviceinfo.xfinity.com/customerinfo

    If you jumped from $90 to $150 after a few months, it sounds like you took a 3-month promotion instead of the more common 12 or 24-month offers. So again, threaten and they may "find" you the promotional rate again. Or quit while on a vacation and then sign back up to a 12 or 24-month promotion. Or consider the DISH "price lock" which won't nearly double the price during the 24 or 36-month term. Or go streaming but be sure to explore the tradeoffs: a software DVR is not equivalent to a hardware one, mono or stereo is not 5.1 surround even in faux surround mode, etc.

    Of course, it's up to you, so take my input as just that: input. In my own experience, the grass is not really greener with streaming (yet) as a few of the tradeoffs offset the smallish amount of savings. Since you only need to connect 2 TVs, you may find that it's the same for you vs. a variety of other options. Good luck!
     
  14. jfoley85 macrumors newbie

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    I really like Hulu Live TV it has a cloud DVR I might start using DTV Now eventually if they can get a DVR option that works with Freeform and ESPN. Sling doesn't.
     
  15. dariosaurusrex thread starter macrumors newbie

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    hmm no AMC with hulu sorry can't miss my walking dead lol
     
  16. starkmj macrumors member

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    For those of you with Dish TV, what internet provider do you have? I LOATHED U-verse internet when I had it. It crapped out 4-5 times a day and drove me nuts.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 22, 2017 ---
    Or Better Caul Saul!!

    I agree. Hulu would have me at AMC. But, nope.

    Also, gotta say when I tried it, the interface was really hard to get used to.
     
  17. dariosaurusrex thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Which plan you guys have with psvue? I am thinking the $34.99 and add Netflix or get the 44.99 no Netflix.
     
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    Update. Called and threat to cancel service so they transferred me to a customer loyal rep. He tells me that Comcast internet ALONE start at $80 with taxes and fees. Although they have on their site a $39.99 mo he keeps telling me that my bill will be around 80 even if I own a modem, and pretty much told me that is because there's no other alternative In my area and that is the cheapest they can give me, which is total bull But after 45 Minutes of going back and forward they gave me the tv(220channels)+internet bundle (100mbps)+dvr+hbo for 135 mo. Which is still a lot but doesn't look like I have any other options. I was hoping to pay around 80 or 90 between internet and streaming services.
     
  19. HobeSoundDarryl, Jul 1, 2017
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    As I mentioned before, walk away... wait for a while... then sign back up for their "new subscriber" promotional offers. You don't have to be canceled for very long before they "cave" desperately trying to woo you back with new customer offers (they know time works against them as you could commit to 2+ years with a variety of other players at any time). They'd much prefer the monthly cash flow from you than holding firm to some off-promotion rate and then losing you for up to a few years minimum.

    Quitting for a while is the almost certain way you'll get their $39.99 rate or the "triple play" rate for about $90/month. If you have a vacation coming up, cancel while you are on vacation, then come back and test signing back up with a "new subscriber" rate. If it hasn't been enough time just yet, wait a little longer and try again. Eventually you get it. If you do this, be sure to look for their 12-24 month special rates instead of their 3-month deals, else after 3 months, they'll jack the price right back up again.

    If the family can't quite live without TV for the quit period, you have many options. One IS to sign up for additional streaming options- perhaps via free trial periods. Another really good one since you appear to be in Houston is to put up an antenna and you'll probably get dozens of channels for free over-the-air, with the core networks at higher quality than you'll get from any other option.

    I punched in a random zip code for Houston at antennaweb.org and it found "up to 132 channels from 29 over-the-air stations" including all of the "big 6" (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, CW, PBS) as well as a variety of popular classic TV stations: MEtv, LAFF, AntennaTV, Comet, Decades, GRIT, Retro, and many others. From antennaweb.org, you can click into TitanTV to see all of these listed in a programming guide and thus see what's on right now in your area. And WOW, there's a lot of free television buzzing through your airwaves! If I lived in Houston, no matter what cable/SATT/streaming options I chose, I'd definitely put up an antenna to tap into such a rich diversity of programming.

    If you want great DVR capability and guide for all of these OTA channels, consider buying a TIVO Roamio OTA 1TB DVR... or a variety of options that can work (arguably not quite as good as TIVO) with :apple:TV.

    And again, I'll point you toward offers from entities like DISH network who do pair broadband options in some of their offers too. You can get to your $80-$90 target if you try harder and/or switch to other options.
     
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    Based on the previous posts, I just checked PS Vue and I was WOWed. Previously I used Sling TV, and I had to choose either Orange bundle or Blue bundle. One bundle is mostly soccer and the other is basketball. If I wanna watch soccer and basketball at the same time I need to have BOTH. Just choosing one will get me to $40 a month.

    And PS Vue has both soccer (all major European leagues and Champions League) and basketball for $35.
     
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    Direct TV Now will begin beta testing for their cloud dvr this summer (its under a new AT&T video platform).

    They are also expanding their local channel availability, so by the end of August, there will be a lot more cities with local channel access!

    The service is definitely improving & im happy with it. Now if only they could work out a deal with CBS :)
     
  22. maflynn Moderator

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    That might be enough for me to switch from PS Vue to DirectTV Now, but as it stands PS Vue seems to offer more for less.
     
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    Customers really get screwed when there is only one provider available to them. I encountered the same situation last January when I called Comcast. Our apartment is only wired for Comcast, not Verizon, so when I called to get a better deal than I was already getting, they gave me the runaround. I ultimately stayed at the same price point, but they boosted my speed from 70mbps to 100mbps and threw in basic cable (which we don't use since we mainly stream TV shows and movies).

    Can't wait when we move at the end of this month and we have Comcast and Verizon available to us.
     
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    Months a go, I told Cox Communications to take there $135 for "TV package" and shove it.... I put up a cheap outside antenna, bought the Channel Master OTA DVR ($249), got a free Roku with Sling Orange... .so I get all the local and other channels for the $25 Sling fee (not counting Internet because I'd have that either way)..
     
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    Yep, which is why, it will be nice to see Fios come into my town, though there's no word yet if they will. In the meantime, I'll stick with a streaming solution and use Comcast for internet only.
     

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