HA! after hearing from engadget that the whole ugrade ordeal is driven by $$ then it is by tech i would applaud apple for their 'denied' stamp!
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HA! after hearing from engadget that the whole ugrade ordeal is driven by $$ then it is by tech i would applaud apple for their 'denied' stamp!
i don't really care what apple does at this point....deny, approve, charge $30, $50, $100, whatever...i've accepted the fact that i won't have sling on my iphone due to the need to upgrade..disappointing..
The fact that it worked on a jailbroken phone before is irrelevant. If older slingboxes stream in WMV they may not be able to use that codec within the rules of the SDK. I'm not trying to say that Sling isn't at fault here, I'm just trying to give them a chance to explain. Everyone here accusing them of being greedy and ripping people off, yet nobody actually knows the reasoning. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Ok, so I get the fact people are upset that their slingbox doesn't work with the upcoming iPhone App.
The thing that seems odd is the fact the very same thing Sling is going thru, Apple has done over, and over, and over.
If you all think this is bad, don't ever buy any Mac products lol. Apple loves their proprietary adapters, add on hardware and any excuse to "nudge" someone to update to a new machine. Opps.. that 3 month old Macbook won't work with the new mini DisplayPort just on the new 24" Apple Cinema Display.. can we interest you in a new Unibody Macbook? or Macbook Pro?
I have the 1st gen iPhone that while it's only just now approaching 2 years old in June, it will likely be considered "obsolete" with many features in the new 3.0 SDK. It already is left behind from any GPS, turn by turn app that maybe on it's way. Likely no A2DP software upgrade for it along with many other new features it won't run.
Technology doubles in speed and many other ways every 18 months, Apple has mastered how to profit from this. Sling is just learning from the master imo. Build in the means to make your product "obsolete" so you have repeat customers, if your products is good enough, they will keep buying the latest and greatest. Apple is King of that hill and Slingmedia is taking notes!
The thing that seems odd is the fact the very same thing Sling is going thru, Apple has done over, and over, and over.
If you all think this is bad, don't ever buy any Mac products lol. Apple loves their proprietary adapters, add on hardware and any excuse to "nudge" someone to update to a new machine. Opps.. that 3 month old Macbook won't work with the new mini DisplayPort just on the new 24" Apple Cinema Display.. can we interest you in a new Unibody Macbook? or Macbook Pro?
I have the 1st gen iPhone that while it's only just now approaching 2 years old in June, it will likely be considered "obsolete" with many features in the new 3.0 SDK. It already is left behind from any GPS, turn by turn app that maybe on it's way. Likely no A2DP software upgrade for it along with many other new features it won't run.
Technology doubles in speed and many other ways every 18 months, Apple has mastered how to profit from this. Sling is just learning from the master imo. Build in the means to make your product "obsolete" so you have repeat customers, if your products is good enough, they will keep buying the latest and greatest. Apple is King of that hill and Slingmedia is taking notes!
AT&T targeting Sling?...
The following blurb was taken from a post in the sling community forum
While this may not necessarily mean anything, it could possibly mean that it may be a while before this app gets approved if at all.
The issue here apparently seems not to have much to with bandwidth as it does to do with the sad grey areas of defining broadcasting and broadcasting rights and what's legal and what's not legal and what's a moral obligation vs a legal obligation vs a financial motivation and who's who and what's what blah blah blah.....
..... basically more struggles between the powers that be to see who gets the bigger slice of your consumer money
The following blurb was taken from a post in the sling community forum
While this may not necessarily mean anything, it could possibly mean that it may be a while before this app gets approved if at all.
The issue here apparently seems not to have much to with bandwidth as it does to do with the sad grey areas of defining broadcasting and broadcasting rights and what's legal and what's not legal and what's a moral obligation vs a legal obligation vs a financial motivation and who's who and what's what blah blah blah.....
..... basically more struggles between the powers that be to see who gets the bigger slice of your consumer money
why are they just doing this now, and not years ago when BB and WinMo devices started using this app.... ugh.
This has been in their TOS for awhile. For some reason, according to this post is has been re-worded ot something.
I remember 2 years ago when I first got a Slingbox reading about how it was against at&t's TOS to stream Sling.
This is nothing new.
Sigh.
If I hear one more thing about "bandwidth hogging" I'm gonna lose it...
Last I checked, my 3G iPhone's data plan is "UNLIMITED" not "We're gonna get our panties in a bunch if you stream too much video..." Perhaps AT&T could cut some lawyers off their payroll and instead focus on building a 3G network that works like it should.
That stuff about broadcasting rights is nonsense, that's an issue for Sling not Apple or AT&T.
What I'm hoping is Apple simply wanted to take their time testing this one thoroughly, and perhaps is working with Sling to fix some minor bugs they discovered before it's released to us.
If this is rejected, however, I may dump my iPhone at the end of the contract knowing no one worth a d&%m is going to write decent software for this platform. My humble opinion of the iPhone so far: So much potential, so few results.
If I hear one more thing about "bandwidth hogging" I'm gonna lose it...
Last I checked, my 3G iPhone's data plan is "UNLIMITED" not "We're gonna get our panties in a bunch if you stream too much video..." Perhaps AT&T could cut some lawyers off their payroll and instead focus on building a 3G network that works like it should.
That stuff about broadcasting rights is nonsense, that's an issue for Sling not Apple or AT&T.
What I'm hoping is Apple simply wanted to take their time testing this one thoroughly, and perhaps is working with Sling to fix some minor bugs they discovered before it's released to us.
If this is rejected, however, I may dump my iPhone at the end of the contract knowing no one worth a d&%m is going to write decent software for this platform. My humble opinion of the iPhone so far: So much potential, so few results.
Sorry to break it to you, but your "unlimited" data plan was never unlimited. It's always be capped at 5gb/month.
Well the "broadcasting rights" claim is a just a pleasant term for public use... lipstick on a pig if you will ... The raw concern is really "broadcasting $$$", and "broadcasting control" essentially the same .. control = $$$
Of course AT&T is concerned with bandwidth usage, no argument there.
Don't refute the fact however that:
- A tethering app = loss of control for AT&T as it is an unplanned event (because it competes with their wireless data plans for laptops)
- A skype app = loss of revenue for AT&T because it = free phone calls
- A streaming audio (radio) app = loss of revenue for Record labels & Apple
- A streaming video app = loss of control for for the big networks
- A streaming video app that records,replays and rebroadcasts video or audio irritates all entities (especially those who seek royalties) on a multitude of levels.
- A "Sling" app = loss of control for all entities in just about every medium you can name.
That said, no single entity... not Apple, not AT&T, not the labels, not the artists, nor the major networks, is purposely trying to deny the consumer the convenience that "sling" could provide. They all want the consumer to have this access! but first..... they have to flex at each other and throw their weight around (exemplified by the recent change in the AT&T TOS) in order to position themselves into a position of..... c o n t r o l.
Heck Apple had to struggle horrendously for months on end to get 30 second freaking ringtones! simple ringtones! to consumers because of this struggle. You think they're just going to let an outsider like SlingMedia just waltz on in and throw everyone off their ball?
that's my take... but what do i know... Apple could be approving this app as I type this.
Oh and if we get our Sling app, and AT&T allows the iPhone to tether in June and if no one pulls Skype off the the iTunes store etc ...
You can bet the bank your iPhone phone/data rates are going going to increase substantially this June 2009 . I'm just saying don't be shocked... because it will happen.
You can bet the bank your iPhone phone/data rates are going going to increase substantially this June 2009 . I'm just saying don't be shocked... because it will happen.
It's whatever man
I have a slingbox pro. as far as I know it should work. If not, I won't cry, I've been looking for a reason to get the new pro-hd ah ha!
I have a slingbox pro. as far as I know it should work. If not, I won't cry, I've been looking for a reason to get the new pro-hd ah ha!
I get the sense with each passing day that this App is either not coming soon or not coming as advertised. i.e.. without 3g and edge support.
I just can't believe that Apple/At&t are going to allow this app to surface when it will hog up so much of network bandwidth. I could easily see Apple tell sling to resubmit the App w/only Wifi to get it approved.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that if it was coming as advertised, it would have been here already, especially with all of Apple's proclamations about how quick the approval process has become.
I just can't believe that Apple/At&t are going to allow this app to surface when it will hog up so much of network bandwidth. I could easily see Apple tell sling to resubmit the App w/only Wifi to get it approved.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that if it was coming as advertised, it would have been here already, especially with all of Apple's proclamations about how quick the approval process has become.
are you serious?! have you not read the past few pages?! this is already being discussed!
they're probably not "doing" anything. Everyone loves to talk about being jaded by AT&T. It's only been what a week or 2? Give it a rest. You're all talking on rumors and speculation. God, SHUT UP!
This was addressed a few posts above yours. Older devices would sling in WMV, newer devices in h.264. Try watching some WMV videos on your iPhone easily
It's not just about making money, it's a legitimate limitation of the device itself.
Then why did Slingmedia demonstrate the beta version working with older hardware at MacWorld?
THIS is the reason why so many are pissed and think it's a money grab.
If they couldn't make the older hardware work reliably for specific technical reasons, Slingmedia HAS TO acknowledge that otherwise they have a public relations nightmare.
But if it does work OK, and Slingmedia thinks the iPhone app is a good excuse to get people to upgrade and restrict use - well, they're going to deserve the scumbag reputation they're rapidly acquiring.
I can't help thinking that Apple has a really good opportunity here to develop something very similar with Apple TV, MobileMe, and a free iPhone app.
At what point during the demonstration did they claim it works on all SlingBoxes.
Here's 2 videos with 2 different Sling reps.
http://www.slingcommunity.com/forum...ing-rep-confirming-all-slingboxes-for-iphone/
Watched those two videos again, and they certainly didn't hint at upcoming hardware changes, so shame on Sling for a bad PR move. We have short memories however, so this will only be a momentary setback for them (and they know it). My bigger concern is the battle with ATT and whether the agreement for data is going to be the end of 3G access to sling.
AT&T issued an apology that their data agreement contained incorrect wording after yesterday's uproar.
Seeing those older demo videos now makes me wonder why they changed and if it is completely money driven
Or maybe for demo purposes they were using libraries or frameworks that are not allowed in the SDK terms for WMV playback, just to show something. If they knew all along they should've said something though. After seeing the demo again my stance has changed on this (although it has no impact on me since I have a Pro).