Slow animations/Transitions on MBP 2011

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by Numanmania, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. Numanmania macrumors newbie

    Jun 4, 2011
    Hi all!

    On a Macbook Pro 17 i7 2.2 2011 with 8gb of ram and using the Radeon HD6750M i see slow, poor animations/transitions (open/close/Mission Control) on desktop... Does someone observe the same thing?.

    Many thx
  2. stefan1975 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 15, 2010
    i have a 2010 mbp 15" HR AG with the i5 and nvidia. full screen apps are horrible for me and animations stutter all over the place. especially on the intel IGP but also on the nvidia 330. mission control isn't smooth either.

    thought mine was a pretty recent mbp, but either they want me to upgrade already or they have serious graphics issues in lion.
  3. Jerome Morrow, Jul 7, 2011
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2011

    Jerome Morrow macrumors 6502a

    Jerome Morrow

    Jun 13, 2011
    United Kingdom
    That's all Lion. Even for .0 release it's quality is pretty poor. I can play a game on a native resolution getting ~60-70 frames per second, but folders animation lags as hell as do basically all other animations. Random slowness of the system is killing me. RAM usage goes up randomly even when computer is not used at all and then suddenly drops to the SL levels.

    Very poor quality release in my opinion.

    Edit: Whoever is voting people down for saying what they see on their machines should go see a doctor immediatelly. Not cool.
  4. PurrBall macrumors 65816


    Oct 25, 2007
    My animations sometimes work fine, sometimes not so well. I have the same 6750 as well.
  5. murdercitydevil macrumors 68000


    Feb 23, 2010
    Same thing here. I posted a while back about how turned off I was with the choppy GUI animations using the Intel graphics in SL; the same thing persists with Lion. It is completely beyond me how Apple cannot get their hardware and software on the same level. Clearly their OS must be graphically just as fluid on their lowest level hardware as it is with anything else.
  6. stefan1975 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 15, 2010
    i just don't see why, they should be able to have this run butter smooth even on the IGP. Heck i have a pentium4 with a nv ti 6200 running fedora with kde 4.5 with all animations enabled and it is running like a charm, even that silly cube and those wobbly windows are silky smooth.

    how could a i5 with a nv 330 have so much trouble with even scrolling in full screen safari? unlike you though even the intel IGP ran fine in SL. no that i am playing steam games on this machine but the basic stuff ran all right on it.
  7. Numanmania thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 4, 2011
    In DP4 i think that Quarz Extreme works well.... buy in GM not works... waiting for GM 2.0 or 10.7.1??? ;)
  8. Starfox macrumors 6502


    Apr 7, 2011
    The IGP in my 2011 15" MBP (Intel HD 3000) is more than capable of rendering the Lion UI elements at a solid 60 FPS, I'm guessing the stuttering problems are due to immature drivers - especially given the new OpenGL stack in Lion.
  9. strubinstein macrumors member

    Jun 6, 2010
    Its really disappointing to hear about this. I was planning on upgrading my 2010 i7 mbp the day Lion came out but I wont be doing that if they can't even get it to work right on their own machines.

    I thought apple was better than that. I mean, surly they tested it on all different kinds of hardware, not just iMacs. But they somehow feel stuff like that is acceptable?
  10. gumblecosby macrumors 6502

    Jun 22, 2010
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    Leopard was the same at .0 as was snow leopard. It will improve with updates.
    The graphics drivers and frameworks are probably just "good enough" for lions release. After they remove major bugs with the .1 update, then they should focus on graphics performance.
    All speculation and guesswork by me though. :)
  11. Numanmania thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 4, 2011
    The problem is when you change the graphic card on your MBP with integrated/discreet system. I reinstalled Lion and all works well with The same programs that i used before. But if i change to de HD3000...... Again The same problem.

    Solution (for Now)... Use the discreet card.
  12. Atarikid macrumors regular

    May 14, 2011
  13. Atarikid macrumors regular

    May 14, 2011
    OS X Lion is the worst OS X version ever concerning GUI smoothness. Leopard and SL did a very good job at release.
  14. mfka macrumors regular


    Oct 20, 2009
    Immature drivers, nothing else. Once again, SL is in its most stable and polished
    form, Lion is not even out yet. And by the way, everything works really smooth
    on my MB pro and i find it very pleasant, fast and stable. I am using it as my main
    system since DP 4.
  15. goomba macrumors member

    Jun 14, 2006
    To be fair, 10.0-10.3 were a whole lot worse than Lion at UI responsiveness--even resizing a window would slow everything to a crawl.
  16. JKK photography macrumors regular

    JKK photography

    Jul 14, 2009
    I see no lag on my Pro 13" 2010 version. At all.

    So I think that it is safe to say it's a matter of drivers, and can (and probably will) be fixed.
  17. iGuybrush macrumors newbie

    Jun 12, 2011
    Same problem here after official upgrade. I'm on a 15" macbook pro 2010 and most transitions and animations are laggy/choppy, especially mission control, even when discrete graphic card is active. Does anybody experiences similar problems after upgrading?
  18. superspartan macrumors member

    Jun 9, 2006
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    I'm on a 2008 iMac and the graphics are so choppy I'm thinking about downgrading back to SL. Granted, my machine is a few years old, but it's by no means a slouch and was silky smooth before the upgrade.
  19. Neo4 macrumors member

    Jun 9, 2010
    same here on a late 2010 mbp!

    my poor transitions are between spaces and mission control! it is not terrible but i notice a poor performance compared to my SL
  20. sstringer macrumors newbie

    Apr 15, 2009
    Glad it's not just me. I'm seeing 3-ish fps on my Mac Pro (2008) with dual NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. The wide range of hardware exhibiting this problem is making me rethink my theory that it's my video cards.

    The fact that this isn't isolated is encouraging in a way in that the engineering team should take notice and work on a fix. Odd that this never surfaced during the beta, though...


    PS - For the sake of getting the engineers to take this thread seriously, it would be more helpful to avoid hyperbolic "OS X Lion is the worst OS X version ever" posts. Every .0 release has issues. Lion is no different.
  21. delwynnpawn macrumors newbie


    Jun 12, 2011

    One "slowness" of the new system is the implementation of versions in pages. every time I try it the transition before and after lags or at least doesn't look as good as that of the WWDC. Another thing is the random glitch in the dock where it gets stock in the middle of it's "icon enlargement" animation even without the cursor on.
  22. Atarikid macrumors regular

    May 14, 2011
    Disable the overlay scrollbars (Preferences/Always show scrollbars).
    This give a hugh boost in UI speed. Almost on par with SL.
  23. iGuybrush macrumors newbie

    Jun 12, 2011
    Your hint worked for me

    Great! Thank you very much. Just did it and it was an immediate performance boost. Most annoying animation lags, like showing/hiding sidebar have gone, and mission control is now as fast as spaces was.

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