Slow Pixel Response Time - iPad Pro 9.7

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  1. Psypher macrumors member

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    Has anyone else noticed that the pixel response time on the iPad Pro 9.7 is significantly slower than previous iPads or other Apple devices? When I scroll through websites at a normal speed, the text blurs very badly and is unreadable. My wife has the same device and is experiencing the same issue. I love everything about the device, but the blurring is really distracting. I compared it to my iPhone and my previous iPad Air 2 and it's a night and day difference. Has anyone else seen this?
     
  2. swy05 macrumors 6502

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    Although it's not the same, I have 2 iPad mini 4 and notice the same thing on both of them.

    It looks pretty ugly and makes it look rather cheap.

    Others also have mentioned how the ipad pro has blurry text when scrolling compared to the Air2.

    Hell I don't even remember having this issue with the original iPad. Text scrolling was smooth.

    Something change in the new iPads?
     
  3. richard371, Apr 28, 2016
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    I compared mine to my original air, iMac retina etc and cannot see any difference whatsoever.

    What I did read in the review about the iPad 9.7 being the best display ever is it uses a slower refresh rate on still images compared to the air 2 to save battery. I wonder if maybe in Safari the faster refresh rate is not kicking in etc?

    Do you guys notice this in all applications. What about games etc?
     
  4. Mr.C macrumors 601

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    I compared mine to my iPad Air 2, first generation iPad Mini and Retina MBP and I can't see any difference either.
     
  5. Newtons Apple macrumors G5

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    Mine is also as good if not better than my Air 2.

    I find the screen and it's performance to be my favorite 9.7 feature.
     
  6. richard371 macrumors 68000

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    Some people are more sensitive to refresh rates then others. Maybe that why some of us can't see any difference.
     
  7. zhenya macrumors 603

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    I consider myself reasonably sensitive to screen refresh (I can easily tell when a software update reverts my work 4k monitor to 30hz) but I can't see any difference in this respect between my 9.7 Pro and my iPad 4. Both have some blurring of text when scrolling.
     
  8. TheRealAlex macrumors 65816

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    Yes this is very True and what Ultimately caused me to Return my 9.7 iPad Pro if you need proof and own a 9.7 iPad Pro download the game Acceleroto from the App store its a table air hockey game. You can see the Puck leaving the trails or streaks as its glides accross the screen because its Red in color and the table is blue. But other have noticed this happening to text as well.

    There a Few reasons for this. My conspiracy theory and least likely is that with True Tone Apple is selling lower quality yellower displays and calling it a feature.

    Most likely is Apples new chip that Drives the response time or refresh rate of the display is slow on purpose to probably save on battery consumption.

    Ultimately theres no reason for this to happen the pixel response time is slow. Now some people are more atune or sensitive to this and others not so much. I have zero confidence Apple plans to address this the same way they never see fit to add optional keyboard layout or a calculator to ipads or even a flash option to 9.7 iPad Pro the flash especially should have been a day 1 patch and yet they don't give a Funk

    All these glarring oversights and the last straw is the slow pixel response time when your really just buying a fancy display. In short the A9X is quite likely Apples' last Dual Core X level chip and I for one don't want to have this when in 12 months or so when they drop a 10nm A10X Quad Core.

    The Samsung Tab S2 8.0 does not have this slow pixel response issue nor does the Samsung Note 5 they are both OLED Displays maybe thats why Apple is switching to OLED.
     
  9. richard371 macrumors 68000

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    Just downloaded the game on both my ipad 9.7and iPhone 6s. When hitting it fast enough its almost like there is a puck and a half and its even worse on my 6S. Also grabbing the controller and moving it very fast with the finger I can see it ghost also but even worse on the iphone. Ill have to download it on my air and compare but im pretty sure it will be the same at least to my eyes.


     
  10. TheRealAlex macrumors 65816

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    Well I am sort of glad you see it as well we are not all making this up. I frankly made the decession to return my iPad 9.7 Pro for a full refund today thankfully Sprint gave me 30 days.

    Theres no justification for this. It should not be happening like I said it does not happen on OLED devices as I stated and its barely noticeable on the iPad Air 2.

    But on the 9.7 Pro its terrible. Now in some games I see it less maybe because that game developer is telling the ipAd Pro hey we need faster refresh rate and more resources speed things up at the cost off battery.

    This Air Hockey Game Acceleroto is not resource heavy like web browsing which is why the display is driven or refreshed so slowly. And look very bad.

    This does not happen on your home HDTV, or my Tab S2 8.0 or my Note 5, or PC monitor theres no excuse.

    Will Apple resolve this Maybe thats unknown. If they do maybe I'll buy the 9.7 Pro again. Until then this issue will be exposed and IMO possible trigger a recall or make Apple refresh the display at faster rate.
     
  11. richard371 macrumors 68000

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    But I'm seeing this on all devices and the iPad 9.7 seems to be the least worse. I'll test on the air tonight.

     
  12. mixel macrumors 65816

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    The ghosting on my iPad Pro 9.7 is no visibly worse than my iPhone 6. (Just tested with that air hockey game and scrolling pages.) Very strange.

    Someone needs to film them in slow motion to see how significant this is for some people.
     
  13. TheRealAlex macrumors 65816

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    Well you maybe more acute than most. I don't own an iPhone 6s or iPad Mini. I know I tested this out on my own 9.7 Pro and iPad Air 2 (it was much much less severe on the Air 2)

    And non existent on the devices I listed and the best of all for no trailing or a good pixel response time was or is the 2013 Nexus 7 it's display just buttery smooth
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    I filmed it at 1080p @ 60fps from my Note 5 it does not film slo-mo but not sure how well it's represented or captured.

    Now is it just this one game No. Because there's been at least 3 threads about this now. Calling it different terms

    Ghosting, trailing, streaking, blur or slow pixel response.

    Can it be fixed of course download C.Anatomy That App drives the tablet at 60fps and is the most buttery smooth experience and there's no evidence of it then.
     
  14. mixel macrumors 65816

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    Well, any 3D game that runs at 60fps is a good bet too, it's really obvious the difference between 60fps and 30fps then..

    Filming it in slowmo would be good as we could compare devices, maybe it's not all iPad Pros.
     
  15. richard371 macrumors 68000

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    Well just tried the hockey game on my Air and its identical to the 9.7. As far as my eyes can tell all my devices refresh about the same. The Air 2 must be at some super high refresh rate compared to most everything else. I don't have one to compare. I just don't see this as an issue at all.
     

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