Other Small iPhone coming?


macrumors 6502a
Apr 11, 2011
Good lord. Forbes' short description includes the claim they're "a leading source for reliable business news".

I don't think I can think of a writer for a reasonably well-known publication throwing around wilder and more speculative claims than this Gordon Kelly. Cellebrite has not exposed over a billion iOS devices, Ming Chi-Kuo is an industry analyst, not an "Apple insider," and there's no positive indication this smaller phone is the result of "cancelling" the iPhone XS. Shame on him.

The irresponsible reporting aside, I imagine we'll see some kind of iPhone SE descendant, and I'm at least curious.


macrumors G3
May 16, 2015
Probably not gonna happen. 5.4” vs 5.8” is not a whole lot smaller than it was imagined by a lot of people and iPhone SE size iPhone might never receive any hardware update whatsoever either.
Plus, I am amazed by how Forbes could write the news in a such dramatic fashion I was shocked for a second thinking Apple will not release their 2019 iPhone this year. Sigh. Reminds me of how Chinese news outlet or random posters online frame a non-issue into a world-shaking, deal-breaker “everyone must watch” click-bait copy-paste nonsense.
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macrumors 68040
Feb 17, 2008
Fort Worth, Texas
I have to wonder what Gordon Kelly is smoking? The trend is for larger iPhones not smaller ones. I doubt we'll ever see another SE sized iPhone, but then again, who can ever guess what Apple will do?

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macrumors Nehalem
Jul 12, 2016
Nothing personal, Forbes is a garbage source. Anyways, is a smaller iPhone coming? I do believe it is at some point, because Apple wants to broaden their demographic for what they offer in terms of a smart phone across the globe. The iPhone 6/7/8 (4.7) size was extremely popular phone for its size, and I do believe Apple sees that there is still a placeholder for a phone size like this, and I gather it will do very well in its own respect.


macrumors 6502
May 8, 2018
I'll join the 'God, come on, it's Forbes' party... I'll won't be surprised if they'll start posting news like 'UFO spotted near Red Lobster in Ohio' soon. But I want to believe in the SE 2...
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macrumors 6502a
Oct 20, 2009
It will be iP8 size, not SE size. A 5.4” display is close the overall size 5.44” of an iP8.

I wrote this in another thread.....the writer from Forbes is calling this new 5.4” is the “spiritual heir” to the SE, and will be used one-handed, which is total BS. Since it’s going to be around the size of the iP8, anyone who says these things has never held an SE in their hands, or used an iP8....without the bezels the top of the screen will be even harder to reach than on an iP8.
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macrumors member
Jul 15, 2009
May be. Really depends on if Apple want a low cost iPhone that may or may not eat into the sale of larger iPhones. As long as iPhone 7/8 are around, they won’t introduce smaller iPhone SE replacement.


macrumors 6502a
Dec 23, 2015
As other have mentioned, 5.4 / 5.5" will be the same size as iPhone 8, not iPhone SE.

But I do like this quote from Forbes, which capture things very well.

The message is clear: people like big phones, people like small phones. If you sit in the middle of that, you better be cheap.
I still think it should be 5.5". rather than 5.4'. The 5.5" makes people think the Screen is the same size as old iPhone Plus. ( When it is not due to different ratio, but most people don't understand this. )

I am going to assume 2020 Line up will be

6.6" iPhone S
5.5" iPhone S

6.1" iPhone R

5.5" iPhone 8
4.7" iPhone 8

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macrumors Nehalem
Jul 12, 2016
May be. Really depends on if Apple want a low cost iPhone that may or may not eat into the sale of larger iPhones. As long as iPhone 7/8 are around, they won’t introduce smaller iPhone SE replacement.
Except, Apple was already offering the iPhone SE when the iPhone 7/8 were already in existence in their lineup. The SE was just recently discontinued in the fall 2018, not because it was competing against the other iPhone models, because it wasn’t making Apple enough money anymore. It’s simple logic.

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macrumors Nehalem
Jul 12, 2016
It’s Forbes and Gordon Kelly, enough said.
Forbes usually just ‘carbon copies’ other sites of their news, and barely even rewords it. I don’t find them credible, but they just regurgitate information we already know or has been previously reported on a topic like this.


macrumors newbie
Jul 9, 2019
I bought a used SE recently. Didn't like the trend of bigger screens (tried them for 2 years) and my old iPhone 4s was the best phone I ever had. I really hope they will come out with a new one handed phone.


macrumors member
Oct 1, 2018
As much as I don’t think this source has much to go on.... I’d love an iPhone Xs the size of the iPhone 5. Full screen with minimal bezels. That would be perfection. Or maybe the size of the iPhone 6/7/8 with a full screen and minimal bezels. One can dream/hope !


macrumors 603
Jun 22, 2007
Smallest iPhone size will be the iPhone X/Xs, and they are small when compared to the rest of the smartphones out there. Even $100 Android phones are sporting ~6" screens nowadays.

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macrumors Nehalem
Jul 12, 2016
I don’t believe they’re will be a new SE, at least not a 4 inch display. Now, I’m thinking we might see a larger display, but more in the terms of a size of 5 inches, but still, I think that will appease to a demographic that isn’t interested in phones that are 6 inches and above.


macrumors 6502
May 20, 2008
I would love a modern iPhone 4S (3,5", headphone jack, lightning port, 256/512 GB). I have big hands, but my thumb still can't really reach the upper left corner. My SE is just almost perfect, then again my 6S+ is quite nice too even though the screen is crazy big and Apples "non-use" of it is even crazier... (all elements are giant sized to be seen by blind or to be clicked by kids with limited fine motor skills?)