Smart Invert - You are so close!

mjschabow

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Yes...another Dark Mode related conversation. I apologize in advance.

So I was having some fun with Smart Invert yesterday and to my amazement, it's almost there when it comes to photos not being inverted all over the place as well! I just wish Apple would put more pressure on App Developers to fully support it. For example, the official Reddit app still has photos inverted. My local news app as well. Honestly, if all the apps would support it, I'd say we have a pretty good dark mode on our hands. Yes, I wish it was a true dark theme and not an inversion, but I'd at least take it.

Any other thoughts?
 

macduke

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Yes...another Dark Mode related conversation. I apologize in advance.

So I was having some fun with Smart Invert yesterday and to my amazement, it's almost there when it comes to photos not being inverted all over the place as well! I just wish Apple would put more pressure on App Developers to fully support it. For example, the official Reddit app still has photos inverted. My local news app as well. Honestly, if all the apps would support it, I'd say we have a pretty good dark mode on our hands. Yes, I wish it was a true dark theme and not an inversion, but I'd at least take it.

Any other thoughts?
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SoYoung

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Smart invert is actually the dark mode I needed. I have vision problems and I think a real dark mode would not do much better than smart invert. Even web browsing can be done in dark mode 90% of the time and most popular apps support it like YouTube, Facebook, messenger etc.

My phone is on this mode almost all the time and I made an accessibility shortcut for those small moments when the result is not so good on screen.
 
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ThunderMasterMind

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The thing about smart invert is that it's a render/manipulation of what the processor is outputting to the display. It is super laggy and inefficient, especially on older models like my iPhone 6S. I honestly don't know why they even thought it was a good idea. It legitimately serves no purpose aside from making your battery drain faster. For people with a disability, they should've just implemented a better contrast ratio in iOS like the original versions did. Sure iOS 6 is "dated" by "today's standards," but never did you hear a complaint of someone having difficulty seeing the content on the display. It's just one of those things where I question why we went one step forward and 10 steps backwards. Flat designs simply can't provide the same contrast between objects that a 3D one can.

Here's a good example:
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Aside from my frustration with modern iOS' design, I would love a dark mode, since iOS 7's white everywhere philosophy is not aging well at all. I just hope that Smart Invert doesn't turn into dark mode.
 
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SoYoung

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The thing about smart invert is that it's a render/manipulation of what the processor is outputting to the display. It is super laggy and inefficient, especially on older models like my iPhone 6S. I honestly don't know why they even thought it was a good idea. It legitimately serves no purpose aside from making your battery drain faster. For people with a disability, they should've just implemented a better contrast ratio in iOS like the original versions did. Sure iOS 6 is "dated" by "today's standards," but never did you hear a complaint of someone having difficulty seeing the content on the display. It's just one of those things where I question why we went one step forward and 10 steps backwards. Flat designs simply can't provide the same contrast between objects that a 3D one can.

Here's a good example:
View attachment 762323


Aside from my frustration with modern iOS' design, I would love a dark mode, since iOS 7's white everywhere philosophy is not aging well at all. I just hope that Smart Invert doesn't turn into dark mode.
You definitively don't have vision problem to say this. Invert colours setting is there since the old days of iOS and macOS. Its a well known accessibility feature appreciated by vision impaired people.

Some people have real difficulties to read dark text on white background even with high contrast. Look at the web these days, 95% of websites are white with dark text. So smart invert colours correct this and make the convenience to not revert picture or videos. Before that, I had to always switch forth and back between invert and normal mode if I wanted to see a particular picture of video correctly.

Many people want a dark mode purely for aesthetic but many want a dark mode for accessibility needs and just for that, smart invert colours was a great feature on iOS 11.

I have an iPhone 6s plus and I dont noticed lag or big performance drop with this feature enabled.
 

onepoint

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Aug 3, 2010
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Yes...another Dark Mode related conversation. I apologize in advance.

So I was having some fun with Smart Invert yesterday and to my amazement, it's almost there when it comes to photos not being inverted all over the place as well! I just wish Apple would put more pressure on App Developers to fully support it. For example, the official Reddit app still has photos inverted. My local news app as well. Honestly, if all the apps would support it, I'd say we have a pretty good dark mode on our hands. Yes, I wish it was a true dark theme and not an inversion, but I'd at least take it.

Any other thoughts?
Apple doesn’t support their own emojis in iMessage. That tells me enough about the priority Apple places on Smart Invert.
 

DaveOP

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May 29, 2011
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The thing about smart invert is that it's a render/manipulation of what the processor is outputting to the display. It is super laggy and inefficient, especially on older models like my iPhone 6S. I honestly don't know why they even thought it was a good idea. It legitimately serves no purpose aside from making your battery drain faster. For people with a disability, they should've just implemented a better contrast ratio in iOS like the original versions did. Sure iOS 6 is "dated" by "today's standards," but never did you hear a complaint of someone having difficulty seeing the content on the display. It's just one of those things where I question why we went one step forward and 10 steps backwards. Flat designs simply can't provide the same contrast between objects that a 3D one can.

Here's a good example:
View attachment 762323


Aside from my frustration with modern iOS' design, I would love a dark mode, since iOS 7's white everywhere philosophy is not aging well at all. I just hope that Smart Invert doesn't turn into dark mode.
Have you tried the "button shapes" setting in Accessibility? It shows the touch target area, seems like it would mostly solve this for you.
 
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