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geraldem

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So, I bought the Create keyboard a week ago. Really like how rigid it is and how it protects the IPP. Really like the keys and comfort of typing on it. But hate the added weight and girth.

So, I bought the Smart Keyboard from BB this week. Was delivered today. After playing with it for less than an hour, I am not impressed or happy. the angle is wrong, the keys are not as fluid as the create...and it is very unstable on the lap (in lazyboy).

Very unsure which way to go. Thinking of sticking with Create keyboard. How are other feeling?
 
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MartyCan

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I have not experienced the Logitech keyboard but I've had a lot of bad experiences with their products in terms of overall quality. I also just received my Smart Keyboard today. I had tried one before in the store and thought it was OK. Kind of convoluted to close it up and open it. But the keys work for me so much better than onscreen. I don't need a specific keystroke to be comfortable. Just keys I can touch and feel.
 

onefish2

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I just returned the Create keyboard to the Apple store. I got the Smart Keyboard from Best Buy today and I like it much better. The Create keyboard is too heavy and bulky plus its difficult to put in the case and to take it out.
 

geraldem

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I just returned the Create keyboard to the Apple store. I got the Smart Keyboard from Best Buy today and I like it much better. The Create keyboard is too heavy and bulky plus its difficult to put in the case and to take it out.

Agree on the weight and size...as well as getting it out of the case. So far though, I find the create to be much more comfortable on the lap while watching TV. I need to try some more test cases though.
 

kevroc

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There's another thread (maybe under accessories) that has a lot of good posts in it about both of these. I prefer the Create. Yes, it is bulky and heavy, but those are good things in that it is good protection for the iPad and is very stable and comfortable. As for taking it in/out of the case, it's very simple if you do it right. Just pop it out at the tabs on the left/right. When done, just pop it back in, no problem. I do it several times a time without any issue.
 

Night Spring

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My solution was Smart Cover plus Bluetooth Keyboard. I like being able to position the iPad separately from the keyboard, and if you get the new Apple bluetooth keyboard, the weight is very light. I mean, the keyboard cover probably is lighter, but it flops around, so the Bluetooth keyboard feels more compact, even though if you weigh it, it probably weighs a bit more.
 
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bowlman2345

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I currently have the Create and really like it with the exception of two things: weight and the crummy drawing angle when using the Pencil.

I just ordered an ASK from BB so it will be here Monday. I guess I'll get to compare and make a decision.
 

geraldem

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The ASK is growing on me...but get to liking it on the lap. The viewing angle is too severe and it is not a rigid as the create. Tough choice.
 

hubieonekanubie

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I returned the Logi and have the ASK. It & the silicone cover offer full protection. I didn't like how when folded over the back of the IPP rubbed on the aluminum keyboard.
 

powerbook911

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I am finally getting to use the Apple Smart Keyboard as it was delivered today. I am still concerned that where the three metal pins go onto the three metal contact points on the iPad that over time, it could cause wear marks there.

The keyboard is phenomenal. There are certainly many pros that need a notebook computer.

However, for me, I love my desktop machine. Away from my desktop when more than a phone is needed, the iPad Pro is terrific. On the VERY rare chance I need to create text on the Pro, the ASK is as satisfying as a notebook for me.

I type over 110 WPM and I doubt I am any slower on the ASK. It feels like a full on keyboard to me.
 

jamesrick80

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I tried out the create yesterday at best buy, that thing is hideous so even though it typed well I could never attach that to such a beautiful device like the iPad pro. I ended up ordering my apple smart keyboard from tmobile and luckily it shipped out the same day.
 

geraldem

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I tried out the create yesterday at best buy, that thing is hideous so even though it typed well I could never attach that to such a beautiful device like the iPad pro. I ended up ordering my apple smart keyboard from tmobile and luckily it shipped out the same day.
Yeah, I am starting to agree with you. The ASK is starting to really grow on me. Love how light it is ..etc. shame the Create is so heavy and bulky.
 

masotime

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Yeah, I am starting to agree with you. The ASK is starting to really grow on me. Love how light it is ..etc. shame the Create is so heavy and bulky.

Heh... I feel a bit sad for the Create. It appears to be one of the few that implement the proprietary connector though. It provides excellent protection, but it makes the iPad Pro feel as heavy and bulky as the MacBook Pro. At that point, I cannot help but ask myself - why not just get the MacBook Pro? You pretty much lose all the portability that the iPad Pro provides, which is already extremely limited.

Still, if you plan to use it only at home / office, then I think the Create has its place.
 
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jbizzybeetle

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The Logitech fit IPP very poorly, kept slipping out. ASK is great even though could be more rigid on lap span and more magnetic--anApple pencil attachment would be excellent also.
I use a clear softer Luvvitt case for gold IPP with a cut along side with smart connectors to allow ASK full contact. ASK still covers front although not as tightly due to case bumpers. For $15 (case) on Amazon I am so happy with this combination.
 

silverblack

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Just throwing it out there, there are other options too...

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My set up for iPad Pro is a universal keyboard and a hard plastic back cover case. The keyboard props up the iPad. So I don't need to case to stand it up.

I like using my iPad without a smart cover, and so I installed a tempered glass cover instead. With this setup, I carry my iPP around in my briefcase, and only pull out the keyboard when I absolutely have to.
 

sincere11105

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I'm about to return the create for a ASK. I'm having issues (as with mostly everyone else on 9.2) with the lag and inconsistency of it working. I don't think the bulk bothers me as much
 
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bowlman2345

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I've been using the ASK the last four days. I had the Create for the last month or so.

It really comes down to personal preference and how you'll use it. The Create is fantastic as a keyboard with the backlighting and the shortcut keys. Plus, it feels more "traditional".

The ASK is definitely way lighter. I don't find the keyboard quite as comfortable to use as the Create though and I miss the shortcut keys. I can live without the backlighting (even though I really like it) because I'm a touch typer, but I really wish the ASK had the shortcut keys.

The Create is definitely more sturdy. I don't really care about the angle difference. I don't find it too much worse than the Create.

If portability is important to you, then the ASK can't be beat as the Create is substantially heavier and bulkier. Also, here's another thing you may want to consider: the ASK, in my opinion, is WAY better for a drawing angle than the Create. I personally don't feel the Create has a good drawing angle when it's in its other position.

If you plan on keeping the IPP at home, and you don't mind the extra weight and want the extra stability (it is better on your lap than the ASK), it really is a better keyboard. My only issue is with the extra weight, it feels like, why don't I just use a laptop at this point?

Just my two cents. Hope it helps!
 

eyeseeyou

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For the lower price and bigger feature set, I was willing to go with the heavier and bulkier Create Keyboard.

I'd like for it to be able to be detached from the keyboard a lot easier but for my use, it's not a big deal.
 
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