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Definitely an expensive up-front proposition but completely worth it.

My wife complained (a lot) when I started doing it because she didn’t see the point. But now that I’ve put bulbs and motion sensors in the hallways, bulbs in the bedroom and her personal favourites LED light strips in her display cabinet and behind the TV. She says she couldn’t be without it all.

And she’s forever changing the colours of the light strips and bulbs to create different moods in the rooms.

I do like the HUE option, just because it’s flexible if you want to faff about with them. There’s the HUE labs where you can try out experimental features and if you’re so inclined you can even sign up and make your own.
 
I might go and get the E27 Hue starter kit in white ambient. Our hall has three ceiling spots that are much brighter than we need. Keep thinking of little benefits, like having a switch at the top of the stairs to switch off the downstairs lights.

And again, but not having to have all three on full brightness any time they are on will shave money off the electricity bill. really has reached critical mass in terms of convenience and cost saving.

We are fortunate to have solar panels that my inlaws bought us, and have Tado. Before we had those we were paying £115 a month for gas and electricity, compared to £25 now. I'm thinking with a bit of investment in these, and getting the multiform thermostats for some rooms that don't need the heating on at the same time, it should be possible to get that closer to zero. I have some inheritance money just now, so quite like the idea of going all in on HomePods (as we're both really impressed with the one we got for the kitchen), the lighting and the heating.

Can a switch have a scene set up, so for example simultaneously switch off downstairs hall lights / switch on bedroom light?
 
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I might go and get the E27 Hue starter kit in white ambient. Our hall has three ceiling spots that are much brighter than we need. Keep thinking of little benefits, like having a switch at the top of the stairs to switch off the downstairs lights.

And again, but not having to have all three on full brightness any time they are on will shave money off the electricity bill. really has reached critical mass in terms of convenience and cost saving.

We are fortunate to have solar panels that my inlaws bought us, and have Tado. Before we had those we were paying £115 a month for gas and electricity, compared to £25 now. I'm thinking with a bit of investment in these, and getting the multiform thermostats for some rooms that don't need the heating on at the same time, it should be possible to get that closer to zero. I have some inheritance money just now, so quite like the idea of going all in on HomePods (as we're both really impressed with the one we got for the kitchen), the lighting and the heating.

Can a switch have a scene set up, so for example simultaneously switch off downstairs hall lights / switch on bedroom light?


That’s a nice saving on your utilities bill. I’ve been considering solar for a while, if that’s what you save I might just do it.
I’ve just installed a Netatmo thermostat which seems to be doing a good job so far.

Anyway, you can have HUE switches set up for different scenes and such.
The dimmer switches can be double clicked several times to run through colours you’ve pre-set for them.

There’s also the Hue Tap which is even more versatile offering a standard, big button for on/off and three smaller ones for different scenes.

It’s also worth remembering you don’t have to buy all HUE products. Anything that’s Zigbee compatible will work.

And beyond that you can even get other ones that aren’t Hue compatible to join in by running a Homebridge server on a Raspberry Pi or something and get them connected to your Hue scenes via HomeKit.

Our bedroom bulbs are a cheaper non-hue compatible lot but using Homebridge they show up in HomeKit and work along with the Hue bulbs in our bedside table lamps to make scenes.

Lots of options.
 
That’s a nice saving on your utilities bill. I’ve been considering solar for a while, if that’s what you save I might just do it.
I’ve just installed a Netatmo thermostat which seems to be doing a good job so far.

Anyway, you can have HUE switches set up for different scenes and such.
The dimmer switches can be double clicked several times to run through colours you’ve pre-set for them.

There’s also the Hue Tap which is even more versatile offering a standard, big button for on/off and three smaller ones for different scenes.

It’s also worth remembering you don’t have to buy all HUE products. Anything that’s Zigbee compatible will work.

And beyond that you can even get other ones that aren’t Hue compatible to join in by running a Homebridge server on a Raspberry Pi or something and get them connected to your Hue scenes via HomeKit.

Lots of options.

The smart thermostat is definitely one of those things where the things that might sound gimmicky are absolutely going to make a difference. For example the geofencing, or putting the heating on X minutes before you get up depending on the current temperature.

Mileage varies obviously with solar panels, but we've had them three years now, and seem to be worth around £700 a year give or take, from an initial investment of around £6,500.

I think I might have to head out to Maplin....
 
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I definitely suggest the dimmers for people using hue lights. It is nice to have when you want to actually use a switch (since the normal switches you want to leave on). You are not always going to walk into a room and want to use your voice.
 
I definitely suggest the dimmers for people using hue lights. It is nice to have when you want to actually use a switch (since the normal switches you want to leave on). You are not always going to walk into a room and want to use your voice.


I’d agree with that. In some rooms I’ve replaced the standard light switch with a safety one, so it can’t be operated accidentally by people not used to the Hue. But I can still operate them with the key if needs be.

Then I have either motion sensors so that everything is automatic in the rooms where that suits. Such as the pantry, hallways, bathrooms. Basically places which won’t be manually dimmed, they’re setup to be different brightness at different times of the day and only operate when natural light is low.

Then in other rooms I’ve done the same and have the dimmer switches to easily switch the lights on and off, dim them and set moods with the double click.

There’s so many options for setting smart lights up, it’s great. Even things as simple as the hallway light coming on automatically when you come in and your hands are full of shopping, so there’s no fumbling trying to get a light switched on.
 
I’d agree with that. In some rooms I’ve replaced the standard light switch with a safety one, so it can’t be operated accidentally by people not used to the Hue. But I can still operate them with the key if needs be.

Then I have either motion sensors so that everything is automatic in the rooms where that suits. Such as the pantry, hallways, bathrooms. Basically places which won’t be manually dimmed, they’re setup to be different brightness at different times of the day and only operate when natural light is low.

Then in other rooms I’ve done the same and have the dimmer switches to easily switch the lights on and off, dim them and set moods with the double click.

There’s so many options for setting smart lights up, it’s great. Even things as simple as the hallway light coming on automatically when you come in and your hands are full of shopping, so there’s no fumbling trying to get a light switched on.

I have not used the motion sensors, but do they turn off automatically when you leave the room? If so, like you said, that would be great for the bathrooms
 
I have not used the motion sensors, but do they turn off automatically when you leave the room? If so, like you said, that would be great for the bathrooms


They do indeed. They are fully adjustable within the Hue app, you can set the duration the lights stay on after motion is detected.

You can also set different rules for different times of day, so if you wanted the lights dimmer late at night.

And you can set how sensitive they are to motion, to try and stop pets being detected for instance (though with very large dogs it’s not so easy.)

And you can adjust how sensitive they are to light. So that, for instance, if it’s very bright during the day and it would be pointless turning a light on, they don’t come on.
 
Do yourself a favor and setup some automations. I’ve got certain lights that automatically turn on if I arrive home after sunset.

I am looking forward to doing just that :0)) Do your lights come on at a particular time, e.g., 7:00pm so that they are on when you get home after sunset or do you have a way to trigger the lights at whatever time you get home? e.g., sensor?

I have certain lights scheduled to come on gradually, over a 30 minute period, as a wake-up routine, which also turn off 2 hours later. At dusk, I have lights just turn on at preset dim levels and turn off 6 hours later. Like morning in reverse, I have a 30min. fade for bedtime. We also have a "watch tv" lighting scene, with colored lights, which is enjoyed by everyone.
 
I am looking forward to doing just that :0)) Do your lights come on at a particular time, e.g., 7:00pm so that they are on when you get home after sunset or do you have a way to trigger the lights at whatever time you get home? e.g., sensor?

I have certain lights scheduled to come on gradually, over a 30 minute period, as a wake-up routine, which also turn off 2 hours later. At dusk, I have lights just turn on at preset dim levels and turn off 6 hours later. Like morning in reverse, I have a 30min. fade for bedtime. We also have a "watch tv" lighting scene, with colored lights, which is enjoyed by everyone.

If somebody is already home the lights come on 15 minutes before sunset. If nobody is home they come on upon arrival if it's after sunset. It's all based on HomeKit's geolocation ability.
 
Well, so far so good. We have a knackered landing light that we've never fixed, and gotten used to going upstairs in the dark. So my wife is fairly impressed with now being able to switch the hall ones on/off either upstairs or downstairs.

I was wondering about the motion sensors, and how they keep track of people entering and exiting a room.

One thing I've learned though - although Siri is pretty good, 'hall' is a problem for her, at least in my accent. Sounds a lot like 'call'.
 
Well, so far so good. We have a knackered landing light that we've never fixed, and gotten used to going upstairs in the dark. So my wife is fairly impressed with now being able to switch the hall ones on/off either upstairs or downstairs.

I was wondering about the motion sensors, and how they keep track of people entering and exiting a room.

One thing I've learned though - although Siri is pretty good, 'hall' is a problem for her, at least in my accent. Sounds a lot like 'call'.


Ha, I know how you feel with the accent problems :D Good news is you don’t have to have it as Hall, you can have anything you like, call it banana if you want to, just change it in the lights details (force touch the light in the Home app and tap the details button.)

As for motion sensors, they don’t really keep track of you. You set them up to switch off after a certain period of not detecting motion, from 1 minute to an hour. You can also set different light intensity for different times of the day and how sensitive to both motion and light level they are.
 
Ha, I know how you feel with the accent problems :D Good news is you don’t have to have it as Hall, you can have anything you like, call it banana if you want to, just change it in the lights details (force touch the light in the Home app and tap the details button.)

As for motion sensors, they don’t really keep track of you. You set them up to switch off after a certain period of not detecting motion, from 1 minute to an hour. You can also set different light intensity for different times of the day and how sensitive to both motion and light level they are.

Yeah - might change it, although to be honest we'll probably just use the switches most of the time.

A sensor might be good to switch on some dim light in the bedroom and bathroom for visits to the loo in the night though. I think with this stuff, once you get past the gimmickyness of it all, there are some pretty legitimate use case scenarios that make sense. I love the switches, and how simple they are to set up and put anywhere.
 
Yeah - might change it, although to be honest we'll probably just use the switches most of the time.

A sensor might be good to switch on some dim light in the bedroom and bathroom for visits to the loo in the night though. I think with this stuff, once you get past the gimmickyness of it all, there are some pretty legitimate use case scenarios that make sense. I love the switches, and how simple they are to set up and put anywhere.

Aye there’s always two sides I suppose. Some of it seems gimmicky and for some, it probably is. But sometimes an idea just clicks and you can see the sense in it.

I decided I was going to put one in the pantry, it made sense to me, the wife just complained about it being a pointless waste of money.
Fast forward a few months and she’s totally sold on the idea because she doesn’t have to try and hit a light switch with her nose when her arms are full of stuff :D

That might seem excessive and gimmicky to some, after all we’ve managed without such things all our lives so far. But once you actually use it, it’s surprisingly convenient and I’m all for making things easier, even the little things.

Hell my kettle and coffee machine are hooked into HomeKit now. Lazy? Maybe. Pointless? Perhaps to some. But there’s nothing like getting up in the morning and before your eyes are barely open just mumbling, Hey Siri make me coffee. Lo and behold, one lovely pot of freshly ground and brewed coffee waiting when I get downstairs :)
 
Aye there’s always two sides I suppose. Some of it seems gimmicky and for some, it probably is. But sometimes an idea just clicks and you can see the sense in it.

I decided I was going to put one in the pantry, it made sense to me, the wife just complained about it being a pointless waste of money.
Fast forward a few months and she’s totally sold on the idea because she doesn’t have to try and hit a light switch with her nose when her arms are full of stuff :D

That might seem excessive and gimmicky to some, after all we’ve managed without such things all our lives so far. But once you actually use it, it’s surprisingly convenient and I’m all for making things easier, even the little things.

Hell my kettle and coffee machine are hooked into HomeKit now. Lazy? Maybe. Pointless? Perhaps to some. But there’s nothing like getting up in the morning and before your eyes are barely open just mumbling, Hey Siri make me coffee. Lo and behold, one lovely pot of freshly ground and brewed coffee waiting when I get downstairs :)

Yeah - I think I've had my epiphany moment with it all. Have looked at Hue in the past, and just not bothered, thinking its just as much of a faff to reach for a phone. I did wonder if I might have an uphill battle with it, but my wife thinks the whole being able to with the hall lights off upstairs things is fantastic.

As you say, a lot of it the convenience, but already with it set up like that in the hall, it seems one of those things that once you have that convenience you wouldn't choose to go back.

Its disappointing how expensive the colour GU10 bulbs are though - £50 a pop, and I don't see any two or three packs. We have 17 of the buggers in our house. So my in for a penny, in for a pound thing might need a rethink! Although they are £35 with Amazon Prime just now, so might be time for a trial of that, if I can sort it out with a different email address from last time!
 
Yeah - I think I've had my epiphany moment with it all. Have looked at Hue in the past, and just not bothered, thinking its just as much of a faff to reach for a phone. I did wonder if I might have an uphill battle with it, but my wife thinks the whole being able to with the hall lights off upstairs things is fantastic.

As you say, a lot of it the convenience, but already with it set up like that in the hall, it seems one of those things that once you have that convenience you wouldn't choose to go back.

Its disappointing how expensive the colour GU10 bulbs are though - £50 a pop, and I don't see any two or three packs. We have 17 of the buggers in our house. So my in for a penny, in for a pound thing might need a rethink! Although they are £35 with Amazon Prime just now, so might be time for a trial of that, if I can sort it out with a different email address from last time!

There’s another way to save a few (sometimes quite a lot of few) Quid as well. If you setup Homebridge, which is a piece of software that fakes HomeKit compatibility for otherwise incompatible products, then you can buy some other manufacturers bulbs and still have them work.

Any Zigbee compliant bulb (there’s lots) will work directly with the Philips Hue hub and the Philips software and accessories. So that’s one option.

But not all Zigbee bulbs are HomeKit compatible. That’s where the Homebridge software steps in. It’s basically like making your own hub, my personal preference is to install it in a cheap Raspberry Pi. Then there’s a whole world of new HomeKit products available to you, not just bulbs.

Our bedroom bulbs, my kettle, coffee machine, security camera and Logitech Harmony Hub are all working with HomeKit thanks to the Homebridge software, it’s a godsend for compatibility and thriftiness :D

*Edit,
Just remembered I’ve alre waffled on about that :rolleyes:
 
Ah, OK thanks. I'll have a look. I'm slightly wary of third party suff since generic, refillable ink killed a printer, and Nespresso compatible capsules really weren't as good as the Nespresso ones. I had a quick look and saw some Osprey Lightly bulbs, but they were even more expensive than the Philips ones. Seems cray that they don't have multi packs with a bit of a saving, seeing as its quite unusual to just need a single GU10.
 
I know what you mean about compatibles, or generic items. As a rule I tend to avoid them myself. But there’s a brand of bulb by the name of Innr, you’ll find them on Amazon among others.
The company was set up by ex-Philips engineers and some IKEA people and the couple of bulbs I’ve had from them have been great.

They’re fully compatible with Hue, so if you setup Homebridge on a Pi, they then also work in HomeKit.

Considering how cheap a Pi is to setup I took the chance, Plus I wanted my Harmony Hub in HomeKit. And I’ve not regretted it, best part is you can usually get them for half, or less, than the price of the Philips bulbs.

But I’m not going to try and talk you into anything you’re not comfortable with. You’ve got to go with your gut.
 
I know what you mean about compatibles, or generic items. As a rule I tend to avoid them myself. But there’s a brand of bulb by the name of Innr, you’ll find them on Amazon among others.
The company was set up by ex-Philips engineers and some IKEA people and the couple of bulbs I’ve had from them have been great.

They’re fully compatible with Hue, so if you setup Homebridge on a Pi, they then also work in HomeKit.

Considering how cheap a Pi is to setup I took the chance, Plus I wanted my Harmony Hub in HomeKit. And I’ve not regretted it, best part is you can usually get them for half, or less, than the price of the Philips bulbs.

But I’m not going to try and talk you into anything you’re not comfortable with. You’ve got to go with your gut.

Thanks - I’ve seen Innr and stuff about Homebridge since looking this.

Couldn’t see Innr colour GU10s, so might just go for white ones in the kitchen.

Something I am trying to set up but haven't yet, is the ability for the dimmer to switch on different bulbs, depending on the number of presses.

For example:

One press - switches on ceiling light
Two presses - switches on ceiling light + floor standing lamp
Threee presses - switched on floor standing lamp + shelf lamp

Is that possible?
 
Don’t forget that the colour gu10 are larger than a standard fitting. Or to put it bluntly they stick out.

A shame as otherwise I’d gone for colour, but gone for white instead.
 
Thanks - I’ve seen Innr and stuff about Homebridge since looking this.

Couldn’t see Innr colour GU10s, so might just go for white ones in the kitchen.

Something I am trying to set up but haven't yet, is the ability for the dimmer to switch on different bulbs, depending on the number of presses.

For example:

One press - switches on ceiling light
Two presses - switches on ceiling light + floor standing lamp
Threee presses - switched on floor standing lamp + shelf lamp

Is that possible?



It’s certainly possible. I’ll run through the Philips way first, as a learning experience but as with a lot of things in the Philips app, it’s not that obvious how to. Which is why I’m covering it.
Then I’ll show you a theoretical easy way at the end with the Home app, I say theoretical as I’ve not tried it and it’s more limited.

So, needless to say all of the lights in question need to be allocated to the same room but I’m guessing they will be.

This is all done in the Hue app.
First, make sure you’re on the first tab and tap on the room you want to setup the sequences for.

This takes you to a list of the lights in that room, at the top of the screen is a segmented control with “Lights” and “Scenes”. You want to tap on Scenes here.

Now tap the + button in the bottom right of the screen to add a new Scene. Choose the Picture option and then any old image you want, doesn’t really matter.

Tap at the top of the screen where it says “New Scene” to give it a personalised name which makes sense for the lights you’ll be using. Then tap the segmented control to select “Lights”.

Here switch on any of the lights you’d like to be on for this scene (which will ultimately be one of your button presses).
Use the sliders to set how bright you want them to be.
Off to the left side of each light listing there’s a circle with a picture of a bulb or LED strip. Tap on that to set the colour or hue of white you want the light to be then press done to go back to the previous page.

Tap on save and that’s one configuration done.

Repeat all of that for each configuration of lights you’d like to be available.

Once you have all of your lighting configurations set up as Scenes, tap on the last tab (Settings) and select Accessory Setup. Then tap on your Dimmer Switch.

Only the On button is configurable but you do get 5 configurations to set.
All you need to do in here is tap on the appropriate listing in the table for the number of presses you wish to change and in the list presented to you on the next screen, select the corresponding Scene you set up earlier.

Tap save and your work is done.

Sounds like it’s a bit of a faff and could be more user friendly. Yeah it could. But it really only takes a couple of minutes from starting to finishing. So it’s not as bad as it seems.



Right, now the Home way.

In the Home App, locate the entry for your dimmer switch and force press it.

Now tap Details and on the next page you’ll see four entries for the buttons, that’s the actual individual buttons rather than presses. The Home app just treats the dimmer switch as four discreet buttons.

Pick one of them and in the next screen simply select the bulbs you’d like switched on or off when you press that button. Or a scene you’ve set up with the lights included and that’s it.

Trouble is, as far as I’m aware it’s a single action per button. So to have on and off your dimmer switch would essentially be able to replicate two on/off switches if you catch my drift.

I’m also not sure how doing it that way would be reflected in the Hue app itself. It likes to complain about HomeKit issues if things don’t match up. But I guess that depends on if you plan to use the Hue app.

Personally I set them all up in the Hue app and just let it sync my choices over automatically
 
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Thanks for that - I’ll see what I can get hold of. Would be great to do the lounge - the switch is pretty great the way you can take it off the wall for a remote. Seems especially useful for the lounge. (I guess when I say useful, I mean lazy!) Maybe convenient.

And also a motion sensor to set up some night lighting in the bedroom and bathroom.
 
Lazy and convenient are much the same thing in our house :D
It’s great when you’ve just settled down to watch a film, you’ve got your snacks, got your blankie to snuggle under and.... you’ve forgot to dim the lights. No more, you do it, no you do it arguments :D
 
Lazy and convenient are much the same thing in our house :D
It’s great when you’ve just settled down to watch a film, you’ve got your snacks, got your blankie to snuggle under and.... you’ve forgot to dim the lights. No more, you do it, no you do it arguments :D
Hey Siri dim the lights ;)
Or on my Harmony remote I simply press the dim the light button.
Or use my mobile phone
Or indeed take the remote dimmer from its holder

So many options, which is good....
 
Taking the dimmer from the holder over to the sofa will be really handy for exactly that.

At least til another HomePod magically appears in the lounge.... ;)
 
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