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SMB2 is the new default protocol for sharing files in OS X Mavericks

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I am trying to connect to my iMac from an iPad using an app called FileBrowser that uses SMB. It gives me a message that SMB is not active on my iMac and when I look at the Activity Monitor, it is missing. It's probably the app anyway.

Thanks
 
photosmike said:
I am trying to connect to my iMac from an iPad using an app called FileBrowser that uses SMB. It gives me a message that SMB is not active on my iMac and when I look at the Activity Monitor, it is missing. It's probably the app anyway.

Thanks
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I'm guessing the app is not using SMB2. To enable the OLD SMB, you need to enable "Windows File Sharing". Heed the warning that doing so will store your account password in an insecure manner. NTLM authentication is used for Windows File Sharing and it is fairly easy to crack NTLM passwords.
 
I don't understand this, just enabling file sharing you can't see the machine under windows and OSX still uses AFP for connection.

Share files using SMB seems to still be off by default. You still need to enable windows sharing.

The mac then seemed to connect via SMB, but I would have thought if it really was meant to be the default, share via SMB would be on by default.

Still don't know about the windows file sharing option with the password thing, seems a relic that isn't very intuitive to what it does.
 
katmeef said:
I work with commercial grade Cisco routers and I would certainly not consider NAS functions and router functions to be one in the same thing.
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They never said the functions were the same. The device is primarily a consumer router but has some token NAS functionality hence they referred to it as a router. It's not that hard to understand. :rolleyes:

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katmeef said:
The question was not if a "device like that" would need to be upgraded, rather if a "router" would need upgraded.

A NAS may need an upgrade but a router by definition would not. You're right that a device which *combines a router and NAS* may need an upgrade ..
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And everyone in this thread understood what he was talking about except for you.

Maybe next time he can call the device a "router/switch/wifi access point/nas/firewall/dns server/ntp server/ddns client" just for you. I love the way that rolls off the tongue, don't you?
 
SlCKB0Y said:
They never said the functions were the same. The device is primarily a consumer router but has some token NAS functionality hence they referred to it as a router. It's not that hard to understand. :rolleyes:

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And everyone in this thread understood what he was talking about except for you.

Maybe next time he can call the device a "router/switch/wifi access point/nas/firewall/dns server/ntp server/ddns client" just for you. I love the way that rolls off the tongue, don't you?
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Or maybe just call it a NAS
 
katmeef said:
The question was not if a "device like that" would need to be upgraded, rather if a "router" would need upgraded.

A NAS may need an upgrade but a router by definition would not. You're right that a device which *combines a router and NAS* may need an upgrade ..
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but tbh what most of us call a router....

i have a router from my cable company. the tech guy who put it in called it a router, im sure it says router on the box. and it has a usb socket for a usb drive...it replaced my last different model of router, that definitely said router on the box and the engineer who fitted that called it a router...

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more importantly, will this affect my system, either positively or negatively?


i use SMB (which i admit i dont understand) so i share movies from my imac to my nintendo wii to play though the tv using WiiMC.

to get it to work, i was told before to use SMBup, which i do and it works fine.

does this mean i should continue to use SMBup when i install mavericks or i wont need to or..
 
madeirabhoy said:
but tbh what most of us call a router....

i have a router from my cable company. the tech guy who put it in called it a router, im sure it says router on the box. and it has a usb socket for a usb drive...it replaced my last different model of router, that definitely said router on the box and the engineer who fitted that called it a router...
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You know what, you're absolutely right and clearly I'm a NAS for expecting anyone to know the difference between a router or a NAS.

Let's just call everything an electronic device.
 
katmeef said:
You know what, you're absolutely right and clearly I'm a NAS for expecting anyone to know the difference between a router or a NAS.

Let's just call everything an electronic device.
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see at least we agree on something. unlike you, its a router. if i plug a usb drive into it you would have a point calling it a NAS but since it hasnt got any storage built in, its a router.
 
in dmesg I can see something like this:

Code: 
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 8 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 8 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60

There is no popup with an error message or something like this...
 
That looks similar (but not identical) to some of the messages I was seeing. You might consider playing around with permissions on the server.

vanhaakonnen said:
in dmesg I can see something like this:

Code: 
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb2_smb_read_write_async: IO Mismatched. Requested 65536 but got 2908
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 9 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 8 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60
smb_iod_sendall: Timed out waiting on the response for 0x0 message_id = 8 state 0x1
smb2_smb_read_write_async: smb_rq_reply failed 60

There is no popup with an error message or something like this...
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I had the same problem with FileBrowser and I emailed the devs. This was their response:

We spotted this problem too, and an updated FileBrowser has been submitted to Apple for approval just yesterday. The issue is caused by a small deviation in Mavericks from the SMB standards. Since FileBrowser has been coded from the ground up to the standards, we have introduced a workaround to make sure that FileBrowser can access all types of file server.

Thank you for using FileBrowser.
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It would be interesting to know where apples smb2 differs from the real smb2 standard...

It can´t be a permissions problem because I can connect with a Windows 8 PC to the shares without a problem... This is definitely a problem that was introduced with mavericks...
 
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