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I wholeheartedly agree with the OP.

Is smoking outdoors in public in Scotland also banned?

No, it is not unfortunately. This is where I also encounter most second-hand smoke. It is particularly annoying when smokers gather in enclosed doorways (which is illegal), forcing you into a cloud of smoke whenever entering or leaving a building. I would like to see these people given on th spot fines.

Well our government has outlawed smoking in your own car...

Smoking should be outlawed in your car for the same reason mobiles phones are. They are a distraction to you as a driver. Just like eating whilst driving should not be allowed either. You are not only putting yourself at risk, but also others.
 
Scotland's smoking ban became law March 2006, you are a little behind the times. It's also not one of the few places where smoking is banned in public places, the whole of the UK is now covered by the ban as is Ireland. In fact there are a huge number of countries that now have a public smoking ban


If you are going to have a go at us smokers, at least take the time to get your facts right first.
 
The only part of the ban that i disagree with is the now inability to have a smoking room, and having all the smokers hover arround the door. If smoking rooms were allowed still, those who wished to smoke could do it in there and no one would have to walk past clouds of 2nd hand smoke
 
My take on smoking is the following: ban cigarettes and alcohol. Then in turn legalize cannabis, snus and LSD. Less fatal diseases caused by poisonous addictives, less aggressive behaviour caused by alcohol and overall happier feeling.

I'm myself a smoker and know it's a stupid thing to do, but you know what they say? Smokers never quit. That's why I'd love to see it banned. Nowadays I just chew nicotine gum and eat pills, since nicotine itself isn't that harmful.
 
smoking in public indoors is banned in england as well

Needs to be extended to public anywhere. People still smoke at bus stops and on doorsteps and it's not so good.

Just got back from a holiday to Poland where you can still smoke in restaurants. Had to leave a few because it just destroys my throat. One place has the no-smoking area inbetween the outdoor seating area and the bar so smokers would trapse in an out :mad:

It's a bad mofo thing that needs to be banned in public places now. There are sick people out there who really feel the effects of cigarette smoke and some brainless twunts who will carrying on smoking regardless.
 
Needs to be extended to public anywhere. People still smoke at bus stops and on doorsteps and it's not so good.

Just got back from a holiday to Poland where you can still smoke in restaurants. Had to leave a few because it just destroys my throat. One place has the no-smoking area inbetween the outdoor seating area and the bar so smokers would trapse in an out :mad:

It's a bad mofo thing that needs to be banned in public places now. There are sick people out there who really feel the effects of cigarette smoke and some brainless twunts who will carrying on smoking regardless.


You've got pub and bars, planes and trains, restaurants and coffee shops. So let us have the street, after all you then have the choice of moving out of our way if our smoking bothers you.
 
Smoking should be outlawed in your car for the same reason mobiles phones are. They are a distraction to you as a driver. Just like eating whilst driving should not be allowed either. You are not only putting yourself at risk, but also others.
I think talking in your car should be banned, too, for the same reason.
 
It is particularly annoying when smokers gather in enclosed doorways (which is illegal), forcing you into a cloud of smoke whenever entering or leaving a building. I would like to see these people given on the spot fines.

Yes. Our law is 9 meters from entrances, but it's broken, quite regularly.

And no smoking with under-16s in the vehicle.

The only part of the ban that i disagree with is the now inability to have a smoking room, and having all the smokers hover arround the door. If smoking rooms were allowed still, those who wished to smoke could do it in there and no one would have to walk past clouds of 2nd hand smoke

I believe they are allowed here, but few employers are really encouraged to build one. The air in the room must come from outside and be vented back outside. That creates heating/cooling nightmares for the engineers.
 
Painter fined for smoking in van

Saw this a few days ago…
I can see why smokers are starting to feel persecuted. I mean if a man can't smoke in his own white van.;)
Link…
A painter and decorator says he is "dumbfounded" after a £30 fine for smoking a cigarette in his own van.

Gordon Williams, of Llanafan, Aberystwyth, says he had popped to the shops when he was pulled over by Ceredigion council officials.

"I was told that because my van is my place of work I had broken the smoking laws," he said.

"It not my place of work - I decorate houses not vans."
 
I apologise for getting carried away with the name calling, but just as you have some serious emotional attachment to defending smokers (likely based on your life and events in it), I will own up to having a serious problem with smoking (since it killed two people in my family).

Above all the emotion however, and speaking just rationally ...

Smoking is a drug addiction problem that has nothing to do with "smokers rights" etc. and it's demonstrably killing people. There is no rational argument for smoking or allowing people to smoke in public. It should clearly be banned except in the privacy of your own home.

No one comes forth and says "Junkies have the right to do crack" when they cause civil disorder, they are just dragged away by the cops. I certainly don't advocate all that police-state stuff, but let's just start dealing with smoking for what it is, a drug problem.

I have been affected rather strongly by smoking my whole life, why should I have to suffer (along with the majority of the population), just because someone thinks they have the "right" to smoke.

Anyway apologies for the name calling again, but if I am perhaps a bit to strong on this issue it's only because after 40 years or so of second hand smoke, finally the worm is beginning to turn on this issue. Finally! :)

I'm an older person now, and there are only so many years left. I frequently wonder about how many extra years I would have, if there were no smokers around me. Smokers may feel "under attack" now, but the rest of us have been under attack from you for our entire lives.

Smokers just don't appreciate all the damage they have been doing to people around them all these years. They won't quit until they feel the necessary shame of the drug addict.

Maybe YOU don't know what its like to have an addiction. OR, maybe you don't know what its like to have started something thinking it was okay, only to be later told that you had to stop, and that new laws are going in place to change what you thought was okay. What you are being is ignorant and are seeking drama, so don't get upset when you get a bunch of angry people yelling at you.
If you don't like smoking, great. Stand 12 feet away from me when I light up and you cant even smell it.
And don't dare compare me to a junkie.
 
Saw this a few days ago…
I can see why smokers are starting to feel persecuted. I mean if a man can't smoke in his own white van.;)
Link…

Yep, get ready- this is what Virgil-TB2 and many other people want. The name-calling is just the beginning. The stupid laws come next.

And don't dare compare me to a junkie.

Too late, he already did. This is why these threads always go down the toilet. This one will be no different than the others.
 
I totally agree with Virgil-TB2. The sooner smoking gets banned in every public place the better.
After that we can focus our efforts on banning smoking altogether.
Smokers have had it their way since the advent of tabac. Enough is enough!
I've often played with the idea of blowing toxic gas in smokers faces if their smoke gets into mine. I could call it a habit or an addiction and defend my right to do so. ;)
 
before it's banned you'd better come up with an idea where the UK government can raise the £10,000,000,000 they would lose from the tax on cigarettes
 
before it's banned you'd better come up with an idea where the UK government can raise the £10,000,000,000 they would lose from the tax on cigarettes

They will likely recoup it from reduced health care costs.
 
They will likely recoup it from reduced health care costs.

Sadly they won't. It costs nowhere near that amount to treat smoking related illness. It costs around £1.5 billion to treat smoking related illness, so that's a short fall of around £8.5 billion
 
Sadly they won't. It costs nowhere near that amount to treat smoking related illness. It costs around £1.5 billion to treat smoking related illness, so that's a short fall of around £8.5 billion

Source for those figures?
 
Either legalize everything, or ban everything.

I mean, tobacco legal and marijuana not? wtf
 
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