Smooze - Smooth scrolling & mouse enhancement mac app

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by Smooze, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Smooze, Feb 16, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017

    Smooze macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Hey guys,

    Wanted to share my recently released app.


    Smooze animates your scroll and adds functionality to your non-Apple mouse (scroll-wheel mouse).

    * Smooth Scrolling - Every app you own will have buttery smooth scrolling

    * Multi Display - Set different scroll settings for each app and display you are using.

    * Actions - Save time by attaching mouse buttons to actions

    * Auto Scroll - You can now click a selected mouse button once to auto scroll anywhere on the screen, hands free, with buttery smooth animations!

    * Gestures - Assign gestures to any button / shortcut / app

    * Grab & Drag & Throw - You can now use a mouse button to grab and scroll anywhere on the screen. Throwing will animate the scrolling just like it would on a trackpad

    * CPU Friendly - Highly optimized & Uses a very small percentage of your CPU, even on excessive use.

    * High FPS - Smooze synchronizes its drawings to the refresh rate of your display which ensures the best scrolling experience.

    Free feature:

    * Remove scroll acceleration completely and control the number of lines to scroll on each tick (the app is not free but that specific feature is free and will always be free)

    Video & Download

    Let me know about any bug \ idea \ suggestion.

    New features are added daily.

  2. MacGizmo macrumors 65816


    Apr 27, 2003
    I have everything your app offers with the Logitech mouse driver that shipped with the mouse. I have 50% of what your app offers with Apple's built-in mouse driver and the Magic Mouse.

    Essentially you're charging $5 to be able to customize button actions. There are free extensions to do this, and most 3rd-party mouse drivers also offer it.

    In other words, you're going to have to either make your app do something useful, highly-desirable, and unavailable at the price you're asking.

    If you don't or can't do more with the app, then you should at least have a professional work on your website. You really don't "sell" the app. Clicking the features navigation takes me to a useless list of 4 things that tell me absolutely nothing (the "mustache" one is cute, but considering how void of info the rest of the list is, it's not amusing in the way you think it is).

    What EXACTLY and ENTIRELY does the app do? Why are those things important? How do they compare to other apps (if any available)? How useful are attaching actions to mouse buttons, and list examples.

    Work on the sales pitch. Then work on adding features to the app itself.
  3. Smooze thread starter macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Hey MacGizmo,

    I'll try to address everything you wrote.

    The app is for non apple scroll wheel mice - having the Magic Mouse is irrelevant here.

    You mentioned "free extensions to do this". Extensions to what? macOS? I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

    As far as I know, Logitech drivers doesn't offer animated scrolling, which is one of the key features in the app.
    (The animations are customizable with 21 flavors to choose from)

    Logitech drivers are part of the reason why I developed this app in the first place.

    Among other issues I had with their drivers, my main problem was the fact that you can't disable acceleration. I wanted to scroll in a linear speed, deciding how many lines to scroll on each tick. Really missed that coming from Windows. There's no way to configure that in macOS or the Logitech drivers out of the box.

    Even if i'll endure that, Logitech drivers doesn't work with other mice so I had to find another solution for my home mouse.

    Regarding the price, every single app that does something similar to the above charges at least X4 than the app current price. Doing a quick google search will show that even apps that offer JUST animated scrolling charge X4 than the app current price.

    Regarding the site, there's a 0:38 video that goes through all the main features. I tried to keep it simple without a lot of text. I'm not a great sales man so maybe I need to rethink this.

    Thanks for your honest review.

  4. MacGizmo macrumors 65816


    Apr 27, 2003
    Yes. I'm aware of this. What I said was that half of what your app does is available with the MagicMouse. We can adjust scrolling/accelleration. And...

    Extensions to customize button actions. There are plenty of mouse drivers and extensions that allow me to add actions to mouse events. Logitech drivers do it, so does Kensington. And plenty of 3rd party utilities will work with Magic Mouse.

    This is where my comments about your site come in. What is "Animated Scrolling?" What does it do? Why would I want it? If you're talking about adjusting the curve of speeding up and slowing down at the beginning and end of a scroll—I hate to break it to you, but there are other apps that also do this, and you can also do it with the Terminal.

    Yeah, I don't see a way in Logitech drivers to do that. But there are at least 3 other apps I found quickly that do... only one of them costs more than Smooze, but it does a lot more, too.

    I've watched the video. And I'll re-emphasize what I said previously. It doesn't tell me anything. The video shows you scrolling, then clicking some things in your app, then scrolling. I don't see any problem with the first scroll, I don't know what you were clicking in your app or why—nor do I know what it supposed to do—and I don't see any difference in the scrolling after. "Buttery smooth" doesn't tell me anything, and it's subjective even if it did. Use words. They're free. Tell us exactly what your app does, tell us why we would want it. Heck, tell us why you use it. The video is fine, but without words, there is no context.

    Look, I'm not trying to slam your work. I want to like the app. But you asked for opinions, so mine is that your app offers some nice features, but I can get them with several other apps. So you're going to have to sell me on your app and what makes it better.
  5. Smooze thread starter macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    I guess that you are not the target market.
  6. Spudboy2014 macrumors newbie

    May 26, 2014
    Just discovered your app tonight. Way freaking cool. I'll be buying. Taking me a bit to figure out just the right settings.
  7. Smooze thread starter macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Glad you like it!

    I just realized how much has changed since the first time I posted it here, 6 month ago.
    I edited the first post to include all the recent changes but here's the before and after picture:

  8. meady100 macrumors member

    Oct 9, 2011
    I think your app seems very good too. I'm going to try it out for a few days and see how it feels. Great work!
  9. Smooze thread starter macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Thanks. I must mention that most of the recent features were suggested by the users so feel free to suggest anything that comes to mind.
  10. presenta macrumors newbie


    Nov 29, 2016
    Bulgaria (EU)
    Logitech Control Center causes a lot of problems. It installs a kernel extension that may crash macOS or prevent its startup (as it happened recently). So using a third-party app is preferred to Logitech's software and drivers. I'm not sure how Smooze works with actions on mouse buttons (i.e. back/forward buttons), but that single features is worth the $5. AutoScroll feature sounds great. Unfortunately, I'm still using El Capitan, so I can't test the app.

    Would you please add some info, how long will work the trial and if all features can be tested.
  11. Smooze thread starter macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Hey presenta,

    Logitech drivers were one of the many reasons that lead me to develop Smooze.

    Because some users use Logitech Options also as a Keyboard driver, I've adjusted Smooze to be able to coexist on the same machine with Logitech Options.

    Logitech will control the button assignments but Smooze will handle everything else (Scroll, Auto, Grab etc')

    There's a 7 days trial. All features are available during that period.
  12. maxcosmo macrumors newbie

    Jan 2, 2018

    I am your target market. I purchased it and love it! Some people just don't get it. Thanks!
  13. DennisTM macrumors newbie

    Jan 20, 2015
    Hi. I was just going to buy a license after trying out a couple of similar apps. Is it correct, that the price is 20$ right now? I wish it was still 5 (or was it ever 5$ after all?), but I'm sorry, 20$ is simply too much imho.
  14. alexjholland macrumors 6502


    May 3, 2011
    Bali, Cambridge, Sydney.. anywhere.
    Fantastic app. Made my scrolling experience with a Logitech M337 in MacOS High Sierra far more pleasant.

    I'm dyslexic and can get migraines caused by the processing stress caused by reading for long periods.

    Your app has removed another aspect of stress, which was the juddering of scrolling - which is a big help.

    I used the trial and when it ran out my Mac looked broken!

    Paid for it without hesitation.

    Great work!
  15. Segev macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    Hey Alex,
    I'm glad you like it!
    I had no idea the juddering causes stress to some users. Hearing that Smooze helps with that is amazing.
    If you have any other suggestions that may help your situation please let me know.
  16. alexjholland macrumors 6502


    May 3, 2011
    Bali, Cambridge, Sydney.. anywhere.
    No worries.

    Dyslexia is like having words vibrate. It can be more stressful for us to read and we fatigue more quickly, which isn't great for productivity.

    I'm actually a professional writer. Dyslexia has nothing to do with one's ability to form powerful sentences; but it does mean we get eye fatigue more quickly than most people - so these differences ultimately impact my income.

    Small differences in lens prescription, font-size, screen brightness or reading conditions can have a disproportionately large impact on our reading speed, compared to most people.

    Smooze is another nice optimisation in my package, alongside Flux, good monitor height, nice lighting and glasses. Each of which might add 5-10%, but which combined makes a really significant different to my ability to work.

    Thanks! Very much appreciated!
  17. Segev macrumors newbie


    Feb 16, 2017
    @alexjholland That's awesome. Glad to hear that Smooze is part of your working package.

    Version 1.6.1 is now out with a 30 days trial if someone wants to try it out.

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