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you guys find some very idiotic things to complain about. i go for 1 to 2 days texting multiple people before having to delete texts. and my first month i sent 11 thousand texts. how often do you go back to looking at messages from days ago? the average person never even cares

How the hell does someone send 11,000 texts in a month? 400 a day? I don't think I've sent 11,000 texts in the 7 years I've had a cell phone. If I have that much to say to anyone, I freakin' call them. I can finish in one minute what takes 10 texts and as many minutes. I don't know...I don't understand some peoples' obsession with texting. A text every two minutes every day...ugh. How do you even have time for that? Some people act like there's a prize for whoever sends the most texts.
 
This problem has still not been rectified by Apple. It is nothing short of scandalous that a phone with 8gigs of storage space should have restrictions placed on the number of text messages it can store.
 
this is a classic example of people complaining about something that might matter to them but has zero relevance to 99% of the people who pay to use the phone.

I'm sure next week we'll have threads on only being able to store X number of ringtones.
 
this is a classic example of people complaining about something that might matter to them but has zero relevance to 99% of the people who pay to use the phone.

I'm sure next week we'll have threads on only being able to store X number of ringtones.

99% of people don't send/receive texts? Please try again.
 
99% of people don't send/receive texts? Please try again.

doesn't matter if 100% do, your point is irrelevant.

Most people won't care about maxing out their SMS inbox and even if they did they won't care about deleting some of them.

You do, as do some others.

I appreciate the position it puts you in, but it's an outlier -- a problem for the few not the many.

It is a problem of want, not of need.
 
Delete 'some' of them? Well then, we now arrive at yet another fundamental design flaw: you have to delete the entire conversation. Absolutely outrageous.
 
How the hell does someone send 11,000 texts in a month? 400 a day? I don't think I've sent 11,000 texts in the 7 years I've had a cell phone. If I have that much to say to anyone, I freakin' call them. I can finish in one minute what takes 10 texts and as many minutes. I don't know...I don't understand some peoples' obsession with texting. A text every two minutes every day...ugh. How do you even have time for that? Some people act like there's a prize for whoever sends the most texts.
11,000 is pretty crazy, but just because you're not "obsessed", there are many others that are. So stop implying that your life is just so fulfilling compared to the rest of ours. It's a completely reasonable request, especially considering the amount of space these phones contain. Texting is a very convenient way of holding many conversations simultaneously. Especially in situations where using a phone is neither possible, nor wanted. They have unlimited SMS plans for a reason, because MANY people do it.

Delete 'some' of them? Well then, we now arrive at yet another fundamental design flaw: you have to delete the entire conversation. Absolutely outrageous.
I agree. A slick resolution to this, would be to allow you to select any point in any convo and delete all older than that point. So simple.
 
this is a classic example of people complaining about something that might matter to them but has zero relevance to 99% of the people who pay to use the phone.

I'm sure next week we'll have threads on only being able to store X number of ringtones.

Well, I actually don't text that much, and I got this message. By no means do I text excessively, but I did find myself having to delete conversations that I didn't want to. And having 8 gigs... hmmm. Like buying a hummer with a 30 gallon tank that can only take 2 gallons of gas.

Or better yet, it's like having a 80 gig hard drive in your computer, and after 100 megs of Word documents, it says no more memory, even though there is plenty of room on the hard drive, you are trying to save something of the wrong 'file type'.

I think some of those complaining aren't doing it because they are super bummed at not having 11 thousand messages, I think they are bummed because when you have 8 gigs, it's *implied* that you can use it for whatever you want. (ie: photos vs. video vs. music in the iPod function)
 
I was shocked when I went to my SMS messages and a pop-up appeared informing me to delete some messages. With 8gigs of storage this is absolutely scandalous. I really thought the bad old days of having to delete texts were behind us with the advent of the iPhone.

Is there really any technical reason that these messages, totaling 1 or 2k a piece, should max out?!?

1 or 2k??? You must be sending some really long text messages!
 
11k texts a month? Sweet Jebus!

My bet goes on apple adding a chat history sync for iTunes sometime around 10.5.
 
I don't text that often. I don't even use my 200 texts a month. I also don't really care about deleting old texts as I rarely go back and read any.

However, I do think it's pretty lame that there is a limit on number of text messages the phone can store. I've got almost 3 GB free. I should be able to use every KB of that for texts if I want to.
 
Whats the latest

Has there been any developments in this?

I have imported my old SMS from my pocket PC and came across this. I have discovered that past 1000, sms's sent are saved, but the phone doesn't download them from the operator. Suggests to me not a problem with SQL or storage space or anything, but rather a hard coded "1000" in MobileSMS.app somewhere. The partition with the sms.db file has PLENTY of available space, and SQLite3 can squirt in sms' all day long if it wants to.

The only other idea I had would be complicated, but somehow getting the inbuilt sql driver to falsely report the number of sms's to MobileSMS.app. Being new to iPhones however, I'm not too sure on how this would be done.

*Bump*
 
Not good enough. Most of us like the option of reading through old texts when on the toilet, traveling etc. etc.

hahahah! really? MOST people like reading old texts when on the toilet? I can honestly say I don't think I know anyone who does this....or certainly at least doesn't talk about it. MOST people don't even care to ever read a text message again, much less one from a month ago while sitting on the toilet. I think maybe twice in my life have I actually gone back and read a text message more than two days after it was sent.

And to the guy who thought I was implying that my life was more fulfilling. Riiight. Exactly how am I implying that? By saying that I don't constantly have to be typing a text message? It's the people who text others to say "Hey I just had toast for breakfast", just so they can text, that bother me. Unlimited SMS means to some poeple "send texts nonstop".
 
I don't know if this would be useful to anyone, but you can use this app to remove SMS messages from the iPhone onto you mac:

syphone
 
hahahah! really? MOST people like reading old texts when on the toilet? I can honestly say I don't think I know anyone who does this....or certainly at least doesn't talk about it.

Ahem... I do... :eek: I'm a sad guy, sometimes if I'm missing my gf on the other side of the planet, I'll re-read the odd text message.
 
Feels like a design philosophy conflict to me:

If they allowed storage of text messages in the (what I call) multimedia Flash (4G/8G), then they'd probably have to let the user decide how much storage to set aside. In other words, divide it up so they knew how much media you could sync over.

I think that would go against the whole idea of being a user-friendly device. Choices are bad in their eyes. (Which is also why you can't turn off the keyboard autocorrection, originally couldn't turn off EDGE, and so forth.)

Furthermore, there is the 5,000 write cycle limit on the Flash. In normal usage, that's good for a decade. In the example of 11,000 text messages a month, each time a message was received (and if there was no other cache mechanism), the phone would have to do a write cycle to add the new message. (Gross oversimplification, but you get the idea.)

As for re-reading old messages... when I was a young man I often read my girlfriend's letters over and over again, especially when I was overseas in the Army. Or later on, listened to their voice on the answer machine, another memory limited device. Seems quite understandable to me.

A lot of people keep years of their text messages as a personal or business history on other phones.
 
I somehow have a feeling that the SMS mailbox full message has more to do on the AT&T side then on the iPhone side. but that's just a wild guess. It just doesn't make sense for Apple to limit the SMS mailbox on an 8GB device :eek: . So blame the carrier...works for me!
 
Actually, how do the Nokia and Sony Ericsson-provided software do this in Windows (or OS X? But they don't have great track records for OS X software)? Do they let you pick which inbox of Outlook to put them in, or create their own saved mailbox feature?

The last time I used Nokia PC Suite must've been before they implemented this.

The SMS messages when you connect the phone to a PC looks like a e-mail app, i've backed up everything off phones and put them on a new phone in the past, did this recently when my mum upgraded her phone, just backed eveything up, restored it onto a new nokia and hey presto! done :)

they can also be exported as .txt files if so wished.
 
please help, i'm having a problem with my iphone...i can't open the sms. i don't know what's the cause. TIA!
 
Furthermore, there is the 5,000 write cycle limit on the Flash.

5000 is way too low. The best flash is close to a million. Even the cheapo stuff they use in dongles is about 10,000. The flash in the Nano was rated to 100,000 and that was last-gen.

The iphone is not going to wear out due to use in any reasonable timeframe. The battery is the first thing that'll go if anything.
 
I somehow have a feeling that the SMS mailbox full message has more to do on the AT&T side then on the iPhone side. but that's just a wild guess. It just doesn't make sense for Apple to limit the SMS mailbox on an 8GB device :eek: . So blame the carrier...works for me!
Yeh because we all know that AT&T stores all of our SMS messages to be retreived IMAP style. :rolleyes:
 
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