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Longtime Snapchat users should prepare themselves for a radical overhaul of the way the mobile app works, based on comments made by Snap CEO Evan Spiegel in his earnings letter to investors on Tuesday.

With the company falling short of lowered projections for growth, Snap put much of the blame on the fact that the social platform is simply a mystery to outsiders. "One thing we have heard over the years is that Snapchat is difficult to understand or hard to use," wrote Spiegel. "Our team has been working on responding to this feedback."

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Few details were provided on the planned redesign, but Snapchat said it was working on an algorithm to show people a more personalized version of the stories they might want to see.
"We are developing a new solution that provides each of our 178 million daily active users with their own Stories experience," wrote Spiegel, "leveraging the tremendous benefits of machine learning without compromising the editorial integrity of the Stories platform that we have worked so hard to build."
Spiegel said that the changes would make it easier for users to see content from people who aren't their friends, but that private conversations between close friends would remain a bulwark of the app.

The esoteric nature of the social platform has apparently moved Snap to make these drastic changes, but the danger is that it could alienate existing users. However, Spiegel said the company was willing to bear the consequences.
"There is a strong likelihood that the redesign of our application will be disruptive to our business in the short term, and we don't yet know how the behavior of our community will change when they begin to use our updated application," Spiegel said in his prepared remarks to investors. "We're willing to take that risk for what we believe are substantial long-term benefits to our business."
Snap's third quarter revenue was $207.9 million, not the $235.5 million analysts had predicted. Shares fell as much as 22 percent in extended trading as a result, before recovering slightly to trade down 17 percent.

Sales estimates for Snap have been dropping since its March initial public offering, with the company apparently unable to clearly explain to advertisers how Snapchat works, despite providing investors with detailed instructions during its initial PO. The lack of a news feed and no ability to share, like, or comment on posts has also proved a stumbling block.

Against this backdrop, Facebook's habit of copying Snapchat features and building them into its own apps has only weakened the uniqueness of Snap's offering in the social media landscape - a key factor of the company's business model. It remains to be seen exactly what a redesign will mean for Snapchat and its users, and no timeline for the rollout has been made public.

Update 11/9: Business Insider reports that Snapchat's redesign is planned to debut on December 4.

Article Link: Snapchat Plans Radical Overhaul to Make Social Platform Easier to Understand [Updated]
 

Maetzle

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Whilst I'm not really interested in Snapchat I have to say that this is a good move. I downloaded it once because friends were bugging me to use it, but I got way too annoyed at the interface. Just couldn't figure out how to get where I wanted. Guess I'm getting old.
 

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It seems Snapchat is finely revamping their framework. As popular as it is, I'm surprised these changes did not come sooner.
 
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Gorms

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I've been studying social platforms of late, so have some advice for Snap:

1. Ignore everything your users are saying about harassment and abuse of advertising systems
2. increase your character limit to 280 characters
3. Retire to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait until this whole thing blows over.
 

christarp

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Whilst I'm not really interested in Snapchat I have to say that this is a good move. I downloaded it once because friends were bugging me to use it, but I got way too annoyed at the interface. Just couldn't figure out how to get where I wanted. Guess I'm getting old.
Same situation here. A month or so ago I decided to cave and download it and it was a mess of an interface. Truly a horrendous experience.
 

ILikeAllOS

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In addition to the horrible interface, the 2 other problems are that
  1. Snapchat has forgotten why people originally used the app. It was always for sending nudes and having them delete after being viewed and alerting the user if a screenshot is taken. Now they are doing everything they can to do the opposite, to make everything as public as possible.
  2. Everyone is just moving to Instagram.
 

Nick A

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How is it in any way difficult to use? It’s opens to the camera, you take a pic, and send it to whoever you choose. If you swipe to the right, you get a list of your friends stories. I don’t see how this is complicated, at all.

The discover section is pretty much useless though.

Also, I really hope it doesn’t go the way of Instagram and Facebook with stories being in non-chronological order. I use both of those way less often because I really don’t want to see something that was posted 3 days ago.
 

Pagemakers

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How is it in any way difficult to use? It’s opens to the camera, you take a pic, and send it to whoever you choose. If you swipe to the right, you get a list of your friends stories. I don’t see how this is complicated, at all.

The discover section is pretty much useless though.

Also, I really hope it doesn’t go the way of Instagram and Facebook with stories being in non-chronological order. I use both of those way less often because I really don’t want to see something that was posted 3 days ago.
I ONLY ever use it for stories. I follow ONE person and I can never open the app just on the stories page.

I am forever being bombarded with requests and all kinds of crap.

Yes - the interface is a non-iOS standard mess.
 

Michael Scrip

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Also, I really hope it doesn’t go the way of Instagram and Facebook with stories being in non-chronological order. I use both of those way less often because I really don’t want to see something that was posted 3 days ago.

While I agree with the theory... Facebook and Instagram know that people, for the most part, won't see every single post anyway. There are simply too many.

If you visit the app a few times a day... there's no way you're gonna see all 24 hours of posts from everyone you're following every day. And god forbid if you skip a day or two... :p

So... they use their algorithms to select what you're most likely to want to see in the limited time you use the app.

If someone makes a post at 9am... but you don't check the app until 1pm on your lunch break... would you see that post if everything was still chronological? Maybe if you scroll back far enough. But you'll probably never see it. Lost forever.

At least with the algorithms... you have a better chance of seeing it.

I know, I know... it's not what you want. I get that. But I also see what they're going for.

Personally... I stopped thinking about these apps as literal "timelines" and just started thinking about it as "content"

I don't really care when something was posted... I'm just glad to see it.

This is especially true with Instagram. I frequently will click on someone's profile to look at their "old" photos.

Photography isn't really temporal. I can still enjoy a photo even if it was posted 3 days ago. ;)
 
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Baumi

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I still have no idea why Wall Street thinks this company is worth more than $10 billion. Seems to have developed from a one-trick-pony into a focus-less mess.
 
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Michael Scrip

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I still have no idea why Wall Street thinks this company is worth more than $10 billion. Seems to have developed from a one-trick-pony into a focus-less mess.

Is SnapChat still primarily used by teens?

Teens with no money?

An advertisers dream.... :p

I still don't quite understand SnapChat. So forgive me if I have this all wrong... :)
 
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iReality85

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Whilst I'm not really interested in Snapchat I have to say that this is a good move. I downloaded it once because friends were bugging me to use it, but I got way too annoyed at the interface. Just couldn't figure out how to get where I wanted. Guess I'm getting old.

Same exact situation here. I used it briefly not long after it had originally come out, years ago, and remember thinking the UI was terrible. Not intuitive at all. Then, about 2 years ago, I re-downloaded it (my account still existed) after being pestered by a friend, and it was still terrible. Haven't used it since and don't intend to.


In addition to the horrible interface, the 2 other problems are that
  1. Snapchat has forgotten why people originally used the app. It was always for sending nudes and having them delete after being viewed and alerting the user if a screenshot is taken. Now they are doing everything they can to do the opposite, to make everything as public as possible.
  2. Everyone is just moving to Instagram.

That's exactly why people used it. I know because my friends did that sort of thing. Then about a year ago, I saw some of my friends using the app for tracking each other's whereabouts... why the hell would you do that? People really want themselves to be tracked all the time? They clearly thought it was neat to be able to see where everyone in their group was at all times. Maybe at my "old" age of 32 I'm uncool, but I think that's super creepy.
 
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neosupreeth

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Downloaded the app, was totally useless in terms of UI / UX , uninstalled it. Honestly, with a clean interface in Instagram, why would anyone use Snapchat?
 

Pineapple24

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People (like myself) love Snapchat BECAUSE of it's messy UI.

So many people download it and can't figure out how to use it (see this thread), it's almost like a club or special group, like the early days of Facebook.

The more Snapchat tries to be as appealing as Facebook or Instagram is the day they'll lose their core users to some other app.

We're on Snapchat because our family is on Facebook.
 
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EdT

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The ‘confusing UI’ aspect probably was a plus when the app first came out because it kept all the ‘clueless people’ away. Trouble is, most people end up in the clueless class as they have other things to spend their time on. And what exactly is Snapchat supposed to do that other apps don’t? Anything that makes itself intentionally complicated eventually becomes only a niche product. And the users aren’t really the customers here, they are the product. Advertisers are the customers, and they want numbers not exclusiveness.
 
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mariusignorello

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I dropped it and won’t be going back. Instagram has all the features that Snapchat has plus the user base.

Unfortunately they bloated the hell out of Snapchat with irrelevant pop content and unnecessary controls everywhere. That’s an unforgivable offense when it comes to technology.
 
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