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However, current AV products on Windows are just not that great to use. They are a hassle through and thru. Major players like Symantec AV and McAfee are fat slob pigs. Do you really want to put your users through such a user experience?

I tell Windows users to run as far away from Symantec and McAfee as possible, and to use AVG instead. We have McAfee here at work, and it is the suck.
 
No, it's part of CoreServices.

Nice. I always wondered why this kind of thing wasn't built into OSes rather than existing as stand-alone programs.

Let's just hope that Symantec et al don't write some really nasty virii/malware now. I think we're all in agreement that they create their own market.
 
I can't see how this will be perceived as a bad thing. It's better than Apple sitting back and doing nothing IMO.
 
It's different because Apple's prompt only occurs when there is actual malware. The Vista prompt occurs when performing various operations, no matter what.

Vista: cries "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf! Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"
OS X: cries "Wolf" -- when there's a wolf.

It's a big difference.

Vista's approach probably actually helps trojan horses because it trains users to think of security warnings as something to ignore, disable or click-through as fast as possible.

very true.. and with the emergence of trojans(not viruses mind you) for Mac OSX its definitely a good move
 
weird. so is this a good or bad thing?

I say it is a good thing that they are doing something for known threats, but it could be bad if people become lax and start thinking that this will protect them to the same degree as a full Anti-Virus package.

SO far it sounds like it may just be looking for signatures of know threats, given that hackers ussualy make modifications to fool signature based detectors, this may not have a great value.

However fingers are crossed that this can do a lot once we have Mac targeted malware in significant amounts to worry about it.
 
I don't see how people would get annoyed with this. I mean, unless you want a burglar in your house then you need to lock the doors and unless you want someone trashing your yard then you need to put a fence around it. God forbid you make one extra click ONLY when a suspicious file is detected. Are you that lazy with locking your doors too? If so, please give me your address and a time when you'll be away.
 
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Wolf! Eeeek! :D

Wolf - Photoshop user ahhhhhhh!!!!
 
im not sure why why we are discussing this-in my 20 years of Mac use-Ive never had ANY sort of problem with these things-and I can think of only one time in the past were there was an all out alert for a "dangerous" piece of whatever out in the wild-all the rest are benign-or proof of concept-ie: done in the lab on paper-theoretical

This is not being head in sand- it would be more like being worried that your FM radio will receive invading AM channels-not gonna happen
 
Apple could easily license a fully fledged antivirus infrastructure from Intego for their OS X. That would be such an excellent thing to do.

I currently use Intego on my system. It's very streamlined and it's found both Windows and OS X specific trojans.
 
I tell Windows users to run as far away from Symantec and McAfee as possible, and to use AVG instead. We have McAfee here at work, and it is the suck.

Really? I've found McAfee to have the least impact performance wise on my HP. And when I say least I mean a relative measure. Norton on the other hand....:mad:
 
im not sure why why we are discussing this-in my 20 years of Mac use-Ive never had ANY sort of problem with these things-and I can think of only one time in the past were there was an all out alert for a "dangerous" piece of whatever out in the wild-all the rest are benign-or proof of concept-ie: done in the lab on paper-theoretical

This is not being head in sand- it would be more like being worried that your AM radio will receive invading FM channels-not gonna happen
I agree, though some of us scratch our heads the same way when it comes to all the hype over Windows and viruses as well. Yes, I know that Windows is more prone to viruses that other OS's- it's just that in my real world use of the OS, it doesn't affect me one bit.
 
On another note, it makes it ironic that Apple commissioned the Mac vs PC commercial where the security guy for Vista was saying "Cancel or Allow" and OS X will now be doing this.

Agree, although Vista does it for every single thing you do.

Wolf - Photoshop user ahhhhhhh!!!!

Maybe a Windows user using a mac skin on Firefox.
 
I have no idea; in spite of some rants, how anyone could think this is a bad thing. Take a deep breath please; this is a good thing. It just takes us from what was already safe to safer. I know it is difficult to loose our old MS ways but we need to.:eek::apple::)
 
On another note, it makes it ironic that Apple commissioned the Mac vs PC commercial where the security guy for Vista was saying "Cancel or Allow" and OS X will now be doing this.

Agree, although Vista does it for every single thing you do.

Wolf - Photoshop user ahhhhhhh!!!!

Maybe a Windows user using a mac skin on Firefox.

Newbie, your status makes me cautious but what the hay, Leopard has always asked me when I ran a newly installed app; if I was sure I wanted to run it since it was downloaded.

Catch up... :apple::)
 
im not sure why why we are discussing this-in my 20 years of Mac use-Ive never had ANY sort of problem with these things-and I can think of only one time in the past were the was a "dangerous" piece of whatever out in the wild-all the rest are benign-or proof of concept-ie: done in the lab on paper

This is not being head in sand- it would be more like being worried that your AM radio will receive invading FM channels-not gonna happen
 
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Wolf! Eeeek! :D

Those warnings are so annoying.

How can we disable them?

The warnings for applications inside disk images, the warnings for downloaded applications, the warnings for applications from emails.
 
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This is a start in an interesting direction. It sounds like an attempt to keep macs as virus free as possible.
 
At least I'm not confused about what an antimal is anymore. This is NOT like an animal. And it's not something you wear.
 
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