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Snow Leopard Build 10A421 Seeded to Developers

What are the fixes/additions?

Why is there such focus on the wallpapers?

I want to know what's fixed. When I installed to 10A411, my system became severely unstable. Safari became crash-prone and I couldn't use it for more than 15 minutes at a time. My entire system would lock up with a beachball for about five seconds; during this time, any music/video playing would stop, then play catch up really quick.

Quicktime Player would freeze the video in some files. I'd have to drag past the point to restart. It wasn't always in the same place either, so it's not the files.

I downgraded my entire system yesterday. Erased everything because of these bugs, and upgraded back to 10A402A. And NOW they release a new build.

So, my question is not what pretty pictures are new (and ones I would never use anyway)—My question is what problems are fixed?
 
Keniff said:
I didn't say there was.

But everyone knows its used to download BitTorrent's, so not only is he flashing off his personal email to the www. but in this current climate, where illegal downloaders are being clamped down on, I'd say he didn't think before he took a screen shot of his desktop and posted it up on here - Hence being a bit of a Bozo...

Just made me laugh, that's all... ;)
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You dont get in trouble for downloading. They go after the people who UPLOAD the files.
 
Eminemdrdre00 said:
You dont get in trouble for downloading. They go after the people who UPLOAD the files.
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The most common method (I surmise) of downloading these days is BitTorrent, which uploads as you download, which I'm sure you already know. It wouldn't be wise to test your theory, especially not with BitTorrent. Snow Leopard is so damn cheap it doesn't make sense to pirate it one bit, nor does it make sense to download it in it's current state unless you are a developer. It needs more time to be polished for a wide-scale release.
 
ayeying said:
Well, since I'm running 64-bit hardware, stuff will execute and run faster. The air isn't a giant netbook, at least from my perspective.
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Oh really? How much faster?

(unless you have more than 4 GiB of RAM and 64-bit aware applications, it's unlikely that you'll see any difference...)
 
Bill Gates said:
The most common method (I surmise) of downloading these days is BitTorrent, which uploads as you download, which I'm sure you already know. It wouldn't be wise to test your theory, especially not with BitTorrent. Snow Leopard is so damn cheap it doesn't make sense to pirate it one bit, nor does it make sense to download it in it's current state unless you are a developer. It needs more time to be polished for a wide-scale release.
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You can turn uploading off in most Bit Torrent clients, though its not nice to just leech and not seed.
 
Does the wireless indicator work fine in this seed? I know last seed has this problem where it would say "not connected" while there was a connection. It would happen particularly after returning from sleep.
 
Eminemdrdre00 said:
You can turn uploading off in most Bit Torrent clients, though its not nice to just leech and not seed.
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If everyone did that, no one would be able to share anything.

And can we get back on topic? Torrent, shmorrent. All those on their high and mighty horse better not have any pirated songs on their PC! Puulllease... let's get back to SL, not how/why/who has it... none of everyone's business. You don't want to pirate fine. Don't shove your moral righteousness down everyones throat! You aren't Plato!
 
SiriusVector said:
Does the wireless indicator work fine in this seed? I know last seed has this problem where it would say "not connected" while there was a connection. It would happen particularly after returning from sleep.
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No one knows. But there's new pretty pictures.
 
MikhailT said:
We still have more than one month of development to go.
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I doubt Apple will be adding a QT system preferences at this stage of development. After this point it should be cosmetic/performance/bugfix type of changes only.

Maybe for 10.6.2 we get that.
 
I don't know if it's only me, but if I let the fast user switching menu appear as the current user name or the short user name, it appears off-centered, which really bugs me

like this:
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ayeying said:
Has 64-bit Kernel been enabled for the systems capable of running 64-bit yet? It sucks that my air can't use the 64-bit kernel even when the hardware supports it
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It doesn't really turn it on by default for any systems that runs it just fine. You have to turn it on yourself in order to boot the kernel in 64bit mode. Which is done by adding arch=x86_64 in boot.plist file.

japii said:
Aw man, that's the feature I've been missing the most since 380.
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I don't even know why they pulled it out in the next build.

akac said:
Not all 64-bit hardware supports 64-bit EFI. No 64-bit EFI, no 64-bit kernel. At this point in time, with SL shipping soon I would not expect your Air to support the 64-bit kernel ever.

And you are getting 64-bit apps. Just not the kernel.
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Apple has been adding 64bit kernel support to more Mac models each successive seed since WWDC build even now late in the development stage. They will continue to add more models even now. They are still working on recompiling the rest of the remaining extensions to 64bit. EFI can be updated if the processor is 64bit, that's all it need. EFI is not a concern. It's the extensions that's the concern, you need 100% of all extensions for the model to be running 64bit SL.

Secondly, Apple has not released a date for SL yet, saying "due in Sept" is not a release date, it's a goal. They can delay it if it has not met all of their goals.


iBug2 said:
I doubt Apple will be adding a QT system preferences at this stage of development. After this point it should be cosmetic/performance/bugfix type of changes only.

Maybe for 10.6.2 we get that.
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How complicated is it to code a Preference pane? It is possible that all the commands for the QTX are already there, they just need to code a pane to hook to all of the commands.
 
shaneglass said:
I want to know what's fixed. When I installed to 10A411, my system became severely unstable. Safari became crash-prone and I couldn't use it for more than 15 minutes at a time. My entire system would lock up with a beachball for about five seconds; during this time, any music/video playing would stop, then play catch up really quick.
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I also experienced much freezing and glitching in the last build, especially with Safari. I am happy to report (after losing a few dozen open windows this morning due to a freeze) that this build has been much more stable for me. No freezing or in safari so far at all.

Also, a bug in expose where switching between spaces causes applications to shift their focus has been fixed. Although Spaces does not work consistently all the time. Sometimes applications slide in their correct spaces as Spaces load, and at other times they all pop on top of one another only to sort out a split-second later.
 
jedijoe said:
well do the math. its roughly 2.48MB/s or 20Mbps :p
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damn that's annoying - it's as annoying as those people who can eat what ever they want and never gain weight :p

I'm stuck here on my 2,236kbps connection due to being too far from the exchange :)

Oh well, 2011 by the time the cabinet is upgraded to ADSL2+ for area I live in.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
iTunes on Windows already has a 64-bit version, so SL should have it in five seeds, I think.

iWork and iLife will be 64-bit when the '10 packages come out.
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I would expect it to be in iTunes 9(or X if they feel like it). And while they're at it, make DVDs play in iTunes instead of DVD player. And once they've done that, they might as well ad BD support! Yay! Yeah, not going to happen:p

Dont you mean when the 'X packedges come out? I doubt :apple: can resist that:D

SG :apple:
 
smartalic34 said:
interesting that Windows 7 went RTM (Release to Manufacturing), which I think is the equivalent of Apple's Gold Master, two days ago, yet will be released a month after Snow Leopard (which isn't Gold Master yet). goes to show that doing everything in-house (hardware + software) allows you to get products to market faster. Microsoft has to share Windows 7 with many third parties first...
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I've been saying it for years; the reason why OpenVMS was so reliable was because the hardware and software people worked together in the same company. The reason why Amiga engineers could squeeze every last performance out of the machine because software and hardware worked together.

The problem is that the business world are full of so-called 'financial experts' who have never worked in the given industry they claim they know so much about - hence the reason you hear stupid things being said like one advisor claiming that Intel should cut their R&D because they're no more than a manufacturer.
 
Wayfarer said:
I think is looks absolutely beautiful and MUCH more modern than the current one. A great improvement. From an artistic standpoint it makes snese. The blue reminisienct of the older quicktime logos and the aluminum finish reflects apple's recent design. It's an evolution, I think.
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Agreed; and I prefer the new icons - the ones on Leopard are far too bright - have you tried using a Mac with a hangover? it isn't a pleasant experience I can tell you!
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
iTunes on Windows already has a 64-bit version, so SL should have it in five seeds, I think.

iWork and iLife will be 64-bit when the '10 packages come out.
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iTunes on Windows is not 64bit; the only thing 64bit about it is the driver; the application itself is still 32bit along with iTunes on Mac.

When will they upgrade it? when they move it over to Cocoa - right now it is still a Carbon application; and by that time it'll be using the new Quicktime X.
 
twump said:
I also experienced much freezing and glitching in the last build, especially with Safari. I am happy to report (after losing a few dozen open windows this morning due to a freeze) that this build has been much more stable for me. No freezing or in safari so far at all.

Also, a bug in expose where switching between spaces causes applications to shift their focus has been fixed. Although Spaces does not work consistently all the time. Sometimes applications slide in their correct spaces as Spaces load, and at other times they all pop on top of one another only to sort out a split-second later.
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Thanks for that info. I think I'll upgrade. I don't have much to lose any ways.

I'm going to try to pretty clean first, then add some plugins back into Safari's InputManager which may have possibly triggered some of the crashes. Probably not the cause, though.
 
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