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Snow Leopard Flash performance

Flash is so bad, I rather the whole internet switch to Silverlight. It is probably the best flash replacement there is. I often watch NBCSports live sport games which is encoded with Silverlight and I often walk away frigging impressed that my computer did not even glitch under it. 1080p quality live streaming is totally possible without the computer imploding with Silverlight, totally not with Flash.

Whoever don't think so, watch Sunday Night Football live at nbcsports.com. You'll be impressed.
 
pdjudd said:
While I despise flash, I would rather that the web not move to another proprietary format - especially one that is owned by Microsoft.
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At this point, I don't care if it is another proprietary format, their silverlight plugin works perfectly on all platform that it runs on. That's a totally different story from this proprietary Flash framework that has not improved over the past 5 years. It's picking the lesser evil of two evils.

Microsoft seems to be opening up to cross-platform solutions more than they ever had in the past. Granted, the key word is "seems". But I do think MS will continue to expand their software to Mac. They already announced Outlook for the Mac. I think MS is starting to realize that their software sales are increasing on the Macs as it continues to expand its market share. It is after all money that MS cares about. Additional revenue from another platform is good for them. They'll continue to bash Macs but have no problem doing software development for it.

There's no standard solution to this problem. A plugin that works cross platform with excellent performance requires a massive dev team. We don't have anybody like that working on something like that except the HTML5 video codec but now we have problems in that area with multiple browsers having different codecs for it.
 
I wonder why I've have never really had a problem with flash.

Yes, I've noticed my CPU temp and fan speeds have increased with flash video since upgrading to SL but I don't experience the "choppiness" others claim.

And flash intensive sites load just fine for me. Must be my crappy onboard X3100 chipset. I am running Safari in 32bit mode as well.
 
ever since i installed sl if i stream a video for more than 10 minutes then my computer gets burning! hot and my computer gets disconnected from the internet and i have to restart my computer. guys i got a couple questions.

if i do a software update on my mac does it update flash when theres a new release?

can i download and install Silverlight to use with safari to fix the overheating problem? if so how do i disconnect flash and use only Silverlight?
 
jayd said:
ever since i installed sl if i stream a video for more than 10 minutes then my computer gets burning! hot and my computer gets disconnected from the internet and i have to restart my computer. guys i got a couple questions.

if i do a software update on my mac does it update flash when theres a new release?

can i download and install Silverlight to use with safari to fix the overheating problem? if so how do i disconnect flash and use only Silverlight?
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Flash should update itself automatically. Silverlight is not a replacement for Flash, meaning you can't play Flash videos, games, animations etc in Silverlight. They're two different software.
 
kasakka said:
Flash should update itself automatically. Silverlight is not a replacement for Flash, meaning you can't play Flash videos, games, animations etc in Silverlight. They're two different software.
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thanks. i guess i gotta just wait for an apple update .
 
This flash problem is really horrible. I just updated to the 10.1 beta and it's still just as bad. It seems like people have been complaining about the bad flash performance in OS X for YEARS. Adobe seems to be completely ignoring the problem.
 
Why don't companies just jump to Silverlight ,
Its smooth and cool,

Don't get me wrong, I HATE Microsoft, but truth is to be told...Silverlight is smooth and cool. Flash has been on the market for very long it should have fixed it itself already, I see no reason why Microsoft can put out a better product than Adobe, given Microsoft is known for bloat-buggy software.
We are on Flash 10 for god's sake, not to mention Mac users have been growing so big for the past 10 years and they became significant percentage of web users.

I tried html h264 , it still made my mac go hot! Its like flash or worse
 
ASFx said:
This flash problem is really horrible. I just updated to the 10.1 beta and it's still just as bad. It seems like people have been complaining about the bad flash performance in OS X for YEARS. Adobe seems to be completely ignoring the problem.
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The problem is that you're running a PPC Mac, and Apple doesn't provide an API to access GPU acceleration for your system. And never will, since Snow Leopard doesn't support PPC Macs. It's not Adobe's fault.
 
There is another alternative: Open Source

kingmohd84 said:
Why don't companies just jump to Silverlight ,
Its smooth and cool,

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I tried html h264 , it still made my mac go hot! Its like flash or worse
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Well, Apple has pinched so much of Linux Open Source - and if they have not disclosed their best interfaces, then let them compile "Gnash" and distribute this. Then those that need the latest Flash gigs can use the Adobe variant, while the rest of us can use the Open Source released by Apple. This also has plug-ins to all those other codecs. The problem is all the site that have started using Flash instead of HTML with Java.
The latest Flash use GB of swapping and a sustained CPU of around 50% on my MacBook that should be pretty well tuned. I can also see that the latest Flash locks pages in memory for the thread to die, leaving it to the MacOS to clean up. Adobe: Lock "static" memory only, and trust the "event handling" in MacOS. The code evidently spins around and tries to get something done, allocating more and more and then fail - releasing huge chunks of memory. No need to play a video even! The Flash script may contain errors - cater for it!
 
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