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Snow Leopard - Mail hides on startup!

fabian9

fabian9

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Guys and girls,

Apple has finally achieved to enable hiding Mail.app on startup if this option is ticked in System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items. As far as i know this has been an ongoing issue for a LONG time, certainly in Leopard and Tiger?

I think this on its own makes it a worthwhile update...

Fabian

I'm starting to question the state of my sanity considering it looks like I'm the only one around here that is excited about this. :eek:
 
fabian9 said:
I'm starting to question the state of my sanity considering it looks like I'm the only one around here that is excited about this. :eek:
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I noticed this too. However, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Apple took this long to fix something so trivial.
 
Launch and Hide Mail script that's been running at login, you've served me well, but... well I've found a better way.
 
The funny part, is if you have "ShowHidden" enabled in the Dock's plist file, which makes the icons of hidden apps transparent, you can see that Mail actually does start hidden, then it promptly un-hides itself.

Thank God this is finally fixed. Wow, that was shameful. I was really starting to think it was never getting fixed.
 
fabian9 said:
Guys and girls,

Apple has finally achieved to enable hiding Mail.app on startup if this option is ticked in System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items. As far as i know this has been an ongoing issue for a LONG time, certainly in Leopard and Tiger?

I think this on its own makes it a worthwhile update...

Fabian
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Thank god thank god thank god!

I've always hated this, it's seemed the stupidest little bug for the longest time and now it's fixed!
 
I tried this the other day on my Leopard 10.5.8 system and Mail hides on startup there too. I just gave it a shot after hearing about this being fixed on SL and thought maybe they fixed it in Leopard too. Seems they implemented the fix in 10.5.8 too.
 
MacManiac76 said:
I tried this the other day on my Leopard 10.5.8 system and Mail hides on startup there too. I just gave it a shot after hearing about this being fixed on SL and thought maybe they fixed it in Leopard too. Seems they implemented the fix in 10.5.8 too.
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Ah, good find!

I'd also been using the Mail Launch and Hide script which did the job for me in Leopard, so didn't notice it had been fixed in 10.5.8.

:)
 
Hallelujah! This has been bugging me for years.

Way to go, Apple code monkeys. Worth the 29$ right there. :p
 
MacManiac76 said:
I tried this the other day on my Leopard 10.5.8 system and Mail hides on startup there too. I just gave it a shot after hearing about this being fixed on SL and thought maybe they fixed it in Leopard too. Seems they implemented the fix in 10.5.8 too.
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Holy **** he's right! Great Googly-Moogly!
 
Holy crap...this is amazing. I can't believe Apple got this to work finally - it was going paranoid for a while in Leopard while I checked "Hide" for Mail and it would still show.

Good find, thanks!
 
Can someone explain this to me? I've read it three times and don't get it... :confused:


fabian9 said:
Guys and girls,

Apple has finally achieved to enable hiding Mail.app on startup if this option is ticked in System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items. As far as i know this has been an ongoing issue for a LONG time, certainly in Leopard and Tiger?

I think this on its own makes it a worthwhile update...

Fabian
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email68 said:
Can someone explain this to me? I've read it three times and don't get it... :confused:
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You can tell OS X to open certain apps automatically when you login, and there is a box you can check to make them open "hidden", which is the same as when you say to hide an app, basically making it open but invisible until you activate it. There has been a very long-standing bug in OS X (I don't know how far back it goes, I only got a Mac during Tiger) that the option to open Mail hidden at login would simply not work. This was very annoying, especially for an app like Mail, which is probable the single most likely built-in app to OS X that a user would want to start automatically at login in the background (hidden). And apparently, they've finally fixed the bug!
 
Thanks for the explanation.

-Tim

devburke said:
You can tell OS X to open certain apps automatically when you login, and there is a box you can check to make them open "hidden", which is the same as when you say to hide an app, basically making it open but invisible until you activate it. There has been a very long-standing bug in OS X (I don't know how far back it goes, I only got a Mac during Tiger) that the option to open Mail hidden at login would simply not work. This was very annoying, especially for an app like Mail, which is probable the single most likely built-in app to OS X that a user would want to start automatically at login in the background (hidden). And apparently, they've finally fixed the bug!
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devburke said:
Waaaait a minute, no he's not. Still not working for me. Guess I'll have to wait for SL.
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Well on my Leopard 10.5.8 system it certainly does hide on startup. Some others here too must agree as you are the only one that has posted that it doesn't work still.
 
MacManiac76 said:
Well on my Leopard 10.5.8 system it certainly does hide on startup. Some others here too must agree as you are the only one that has posted that it doesn't work still.
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When I first tested it I thought it worked, but it turns out I just wasn't giving enough time to pop up before I clicked the dock icon and ruined the test.
 
Ok. Assuming I'm doing everything right, this isn't working for me in 10.5.8.

My Mail login item is checked as "hidden". After I start my mac and login with a password the Mail app starts and retrieves my mail. After that I'm still staring at a list of my Inbox.

Is this thing supposed to minimize?
 
Richard1028 said:
Ok. Assuming I'm doing everything right, this isn't working for me in 10.5.8.

My Mail login item is checked as "hidden". After I start my mac and login with a password the Mail app starts and retrieves my mail. After that I'm still staring at a list of my Inbox.

Is this thing supposed to minimize?
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Well what it's supposed to do is hide. This doesn't minimize, as all the windows are still there full-sized, but they're invisible until you activate the application. Try this out in any app by pressing cmd-h, clicking the app's name in the menu bar and telling it to hide, or right clicking it's Dock icon and telling it to hide. So when it launches, you're never supposed to see it until you ask to.

However, the bug that has been around for awhile is that Mail refuses to start hidden on login. This is being fixed in SL, and according to MacMania76, was fixed in 10.5.8. I thought he was right at first, but upon giving Mail more time to open, it turns out it had just still been launching, and it still doesn't start hidden.
 
devburke said:
according to MacMania76, was fixed in 10.5.8. I thought he was right at first, but upon giving Mail more time to open, it turns out it had just still been launching, and it still doesn't start hidden.
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I know. I saw your response and assumed it was finally working for you in 10.5.8 like he said.

Ok, this tells me I'm not bonkers at least.
 
And they broken other startup items!

Since they fixed the mail issue, my startup volumes and IChat are not hidden anymore. That sucks!
 
Bumbing this thread cuzz I was absolutely STUNNED when I bought my new mac mini with SL preinstalled just to find out that THE MAIL APP IS AT LAST HIDING.

After 5+ years Apple has managed to pull this off.

Incredible.:D
 
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