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Snow Leopard Security Update Kills PowerPC Apps Using Rosetta
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Really? I updated.... I am using 3 Rosettas this morning and nothing.
It must be a little more complicated than a blanket statement across all Macs. There's something specific on certain computers which fouls Rosetta when the update is installed.
As long as 10.6 can hold out until summer, I will then upgrade to Lion when it is stable and of use.
It's curious why they dropped such support already. Granted, I will admit that I can get around all programs needing Rosetta... except one: Unreal Tournament 99. I can understand people with old and expensive software suites like old Adobe and Office not wanting to go to Lion because they would need to drop $2000+ for new software.
Hell, Apple should just SELL a Rosetta plug-in for the cash to keep it developed. If it was $19.99 every 2 years to upgrade the plug-in for the newest OSX, I doubt most people would be upset by the price.
It must be a little more complicated than a blanket statement across all Macs. There's something specific on certain computers which fouls Rosetta when the update is installed.
As long as 10.6 can hold out until summer, I will then upgrade to Lion when it is stable and of use.
It's curious why they dropped such support already. Granted, I will admit that I can get around all programs needing Rosetta... except one: Unreal Tournament 99. I can understand people with old and expensive software suites like old Adobe and Office not wanting to go to Lion because they would need to drop $2000+ for new software.
Hell, Apple should just SELL a Rosetta plug-in for the cash to keep it developed. If it was $19.99 every 2 years to upgrade the plug-in for the newest OSX, I doubt most people would be upset by the price.
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Not just that, I can literary write down here tonnes of bugs that the current version of iPhone/iOS have.
Undoubtedly, the Quality Check has degraded and Apple really needs to work in this dept. now. Something, I never thought I would say.
I think the Apple Developer Team is inhaling too much iOS-based substances, reason why they are messing up OS X.
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It think both OS X update problems may be due to Disk Errors or Permission Problems. I always recommend doing a Disk Repair and Repair Permissions before applying any OS X updates.
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It think both OS X update problems may be due to Disk Errors or Permission Problems. I always recommend doing a Disk Repair and Repair Permissions before applying any OS X updates.
Would make sense.
I repair my disk permissions every few days when I have a spare moment. People overlook that too often and wind up with slow and strange OS problems and disk access weirdness.
I don't understand why so many people are complaining so loudly about this. Yeah, it appears that Apple screwed up on the latest updates. But IMO it's a far cry from the old OS 10.3 days when each update seemed to make things progressively worse. Since 10.4, Apple's updates have been fairly stable. I'm sure they'll figure out what went wrong and fix it.
And I'm also sure that companies will be releasing PPC emulators eventually, for those who need to run the older programs. Heck, there's a great MS-DOS emulator for Mac (Boxer), so a PPC one will most likely appear.
And I'm also sure that companies will be releasing PPC emulators eventually, for those who need to run the older programs. Heck, there's a great MS-DOS emulator for Mac (Boxer), so a PPC one will most likely appear.
This is not good advice.
Not so much in the 'it will hurt you' kind way, but rather in the 'you're wasting a ton of time and shouldn't suck others into your world' kind of way.
Repairing disk permission is only useful for trying to track down or fix problems. It offers NO preventative cures whatsoever. This is like turning an off light switch to off again every morning. That does nothing.
While I would never suggest that you upgrade to Lion, I am find it curious that you you feel "forced to upgrade to Lion".
Who is "forcing" you? Do you feel a metaphorical gun to your head?
How are the updates "stealthy"? Are they sneaking into your device(s) unbeknownst to you in the dark of night?
Download...don't download...entirely up to you.
HUH!!??
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I have Lion with a separate partition for SL to support some essential legacy apps. I will downgrade it to Leopard before I will get rid of it. I like Lion but I can't lose these apps - a few aren't available for Intel and the others cost more than I have to upgrade.
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I have Lion with a separate partition for SL to support some essential legacy apps. I will downgrade it to Leopard before I will get rid of it. I like Lion but I can't lose these apps - a few aren't available for Intel and the others cost more than I have to upgrade.
iCloud is "forcing" him.
I mean, sure, he can give up on ALL Apple data syncing and use Google, but if he likes Apple services then, yeah, he'll be forced to use Lion in June when MobileMe is turned off.
My dad's in this boat right now. I can't think of any reason he needs Lion EXCEPT for iCloud. So I'm trying to find suitable replacements for the PPC apps he uses all so he can move from MobileMe to iCloud. Lame.
The fact that only a small number of users got affected, points to a problem on the system being updated, not on the update itself; otherwise it would be a general problem to all users as it has been in the past.
Apple should pop a window recommending users to do Disk Repair and Repair Permissions before an update is perform, so if something goes wrong, it's not Apple's fault.
While I sympathize with the situation, relying upon a long dead application suite for crucial business processes without any upgrade path or migration plan is a really, really bad idea. AppleWorks was officially EOL'd nearly 5 years ago.
So what was he supposed to do? There was no upgrade path or migration plan 5 years ago either.
This is why my dad still uses Appleworks. I said the same thing to him 5 years ago: "Upgrade!"
He said "Sure, help me do it." Every solution I found would have taken hours and hours of work to manually re-make his databases so I gave up and told him to keep using Appleworks.
Now we're having to do all that this year, but whatever. It's the same amount of work now as it would have been back then, so why does it matter when we do it? There is no "upgrade path."
Thanks for the reply.
As usual, in my ignorance, (and since I didn't have MobileMe) i didn't realize that consequence. That is a huge pain...
jeez...where are the quality control people? Are they all in mourning for Steve Jobs and unable to get any work done?
My wife still has one PPC app on her Intel mini running Snow Leopard. Fortunately I don't do updates for her system without waiting to see if anyone reports problems.
I'm still holding off on 10.7.3 for my 3 systems. While I have bootable backups for each system, I don't want the hassle of monkeying around.
My wife still has one PPC app on her Intel mini running Snow Leopard. Fortunately I don't do updates for her system without waiting to see if anyone reports problems.
I'm still holding off on 10.7.3 for my 3 systems. While I have bootable backups for each system, I don't want the hassle of monkeying around.
Thanks for the reply.
As usual, in my ignorance, (and since I didn't have MobileMe) i didn't realize that consequence. That is a huge pain...
It's the dumbest reason I've ever heard for having to upgrade an OS. iCloud supports Vista, after all. Not like it needs the newest processor or anything. Geez.