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  1. smoge, Jun 18, 2011
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    With apple drooping backward compatibility for apps with the old chipset will it mean you will not be able to install and play old games off disk?
     
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    What are you talking about?
    What chipset?
    Core Duos?
    Rosetta?
     
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  4. smoge thread starter macrumors regular

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    Sorry; yh, the swich apple made to intel and dropping Rosetta.
     
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    Your title seems to say that Lion is better than Snow Leopard, but your post suggests otherwise.

    PPC only apps don't run particularly well already (IMHO).

    If you have pre-Lion hardware the solution is simple. install or clone 10.6 on to an external HDD. If you need Rosetta, boot from that. If you don't just move on with your life.

    I am a bit disappointed that Apple doesn't support something like "XP Mode" as a VM for previous versions....

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    Apple switched to Intel in 2005/6, and now dropped Rosetta in 2011. You could always dual boot 10.6 for PPC applications you need and use 10.7 for the other applications.
     
  7. QuarterSwede, Jun 18, 2011
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    Did you jump in a time machine? That was 5-6 years ago!

    They like to drop legacy support as soon as they can so they don't run into the issues Microsoft has with Windows. Doesn't surprise or disappoint me (and I'm still using Office 2004).
     
  8. smoge thread starter macrumors regular

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    I get your vibe, but i would not say any good things about the "run in xp mode"
    ....it dosent work
     
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    K, say i brought some old games for the old mac would they run in lion. (dose Rosetta affect this.)
     
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    If they're written for PPC then Lion will not run them.
     
  11. balamw, Jun 18, 2011
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    Yeah, but they pioneered the sandbox approach with both Classic and Rosetta. it just would be nice if earlier versions of OS X could be legally run in a VM on Mac hardware...

    As the others have said this will basically only affect software released in the 2006 or earlier time frame. Is that what you are concerned about?

    XP mode works extremely well for me for some things, as does XP in a VM on my MBP.

    Games don't work particularly well in VMs or even in an emulator like Rosetta anyhow. They typically run best on the hardware and OS of the vintage they were released for. So if you are really concerned about running pre-2006 Mac software, keep a 2011 Mac running 10.6 around.

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    There is a rumor they're looking to license certain parts of Rosetta for devs to be able to more easily convert to Intel. I understand it still doesn't help apps you already have.
     
  14. smoge thread starter macrumors regular

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    if apple do license it wats the point, if dev are making a new app or new version why not just write in the new code? dont make any seance.
     
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    Yeah I read the article re:Quicken.

    I don't have any PPC apps I use regularly anymore, so it doesn't really bother me. I will keep OS X 10.6 around on an external as I suggested above in case I do run into something old I want to run.

    Also, my 2006 iMac is still going strong and since it is Core Duo can't officially run Lion anyhow.

    http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/quicken-2007-may-run-on-os-x-lion-even-with-rosetta-dead/

    Sure it does. Read the article above.

    It's kind of like the Mac games ported from Windows using Cider. http://transgaming.com/business/cider

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  16. smoge thread starter macrumors regular

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    I read the article but i still dont get why the devs wouldn't just write new code.
     
  17. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    You're obviously not a dev. Code doesn't write and debug itself. This will speed the process up.
     
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    I'm confused, what was your point again? You want Apple to support PPC apps or not? What new code are you talking about?
     
  19. balamw Moderator

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    Because they don't think there's a (large enough) market for it.

    Doing a little bit of work to port it with a static version of Rosetta with Apple's help. Yes.
    Writing a new version from scratch. No.

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  20. smoge thread starter macrumors regular

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    correct im not a dev, how did you guess

    right, ok, got it,


    man programing sounds like hard work!
     

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