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So Beats 1 isn't live 24/7

Rogifan

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According to the Verge they're already doing replays.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1/8876285/apple-beats-1-radio-replay-repeat-not-live

It's a little confusing because at WWDC Apple billed it as 24/7, and though they didn't actually use the word live I think that was the impression most people got. Who cares if it's 24/7 if 12 of the 24 hours are just replays of the previous 12 hours.



I rarely listen to local radio stations anymore. Do Clear Channel/iHeart Radio stations do replays during the day or middle of the night? How about BBC Radio stations?
 

mizxco

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Beats 1 is so into repeat, Zane literally played Pharrell's new song 2 times in a row o_O

On BBC Radio 1, that would be against the station's playout policy.
They would only play recorded excerpts of live music, which makes complete sense.

In the US though, it might be more common, the breakfast show live at 7am - 9am
and repeats 9 - 11am, to accommodate different lifestyles.

I always catch the 2nd 'Conan' show that airs 30 mins after first broadcast.
 
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Yeah they do replays and also it's prerecorded. But in a sense it's still live because it's not on demand and everyone listens to it at the same time. That's the main point about it being a shared experience, not necessarily when the DJ recorded it.
 
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zhenya

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Too bad. I think Apple has a great opportunity here to start building a music system that is totally next generation. Radio is expected to be live, though, and it's not like Apple can't afford to foot the bill for a while to get it off the ground.

To me, the exciting thing about Apple Music is not that anything it does is new - it's not - it's more that all the various sources I've been piecing together for my music - iTunes for stuff I own, Match to keep that in sync across devices, Pandora for customized radio, Spotify for on-demand streaming, and various Internet Radio stations for other - have been brought together under a single ecosystem. I'd like to see Beats 1 turn into the next generation (and much better and less annoying) Sirius/XM.
 
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kmj2318

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I'm actually glad they repeat. I was wondering that I'd never hear Julie because it would be timed for UK listeners. I'm glad I get to hear her at 3PM.
 
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mizxco

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Am I the only one annoyed that Beats 1 is not a Top 40 station?
It's almost like their target audience is between Eddy Cue and Eddy Cue.

I'm not saying it should be a bubble-pop station but you need to offer something that attracts people, when they exercise, when they drive, when they work. Something they look forward tuning-in to.
 
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yo, beats 1 music, 24 7, yo apple music, yo beats music yo 100 countries, pharell coming up yo, yea beats 1, apple music yo.

This.. I cringe every time I heard them say it after hearing it like 10 times in the first hour I listened. Then I tuned in at 12am EDT (didn't realize it replayed at that point) only to hear them playing the same stuff over again. Ugh.
 
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Rogifan

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Yeah they do replays and also it's prerecorded. But in a sense it's still live because it's not on demand and everyone listens to it at the same time. That's the main point about it being a shared experience, not necessarily when the DJ recorded it.
Well I think the marketing on this is a little bit shady. They want you to think it's a 24/7 live radio station (which is kind of amusing as what terrestrial radio stations isn't live?) when in reality it's not. And as far as this shared experience goes...anybody can download the TuneIn app and listen to tens of thousands of live radio stations. In fact when I used to listen to BBC radio one I used the TuneIn app to listen to it.
 
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JPLC

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It feels live but also polished. I would prefere raw radio and a real connection with the audience. Not just play tweeted requests. And there's a lot of plugging going on.
 
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'Always on' is a really strange tagline. How mahy radio stations aren't? I have never put on a radio station and had dead air, is this something that's a thing in other countries?

It's also not 'always on' that makes me think that it goes from place to place, which is what I expeted from this station. 24 hours, DJ sets all over the world throughout the day.

Maybe it's getting to that. Best case scenario is it's constant all day LA > new york > london > paris > cape town > tokyo > sydney and then there's some kind of catch up where you can go into radio and play a DJ again (with the VO, i know their playlists are there now)
 
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'Always on' is a really strange tagline. How mahy radio stations aren't? I have never put on a radio station and had dead air, is this something that's a thing in other countries?

Haven't used the station because I know it will not play the music I like, but I think they mean "always on" = "always playing music"
most radio stations have some kind of long morning talk show/news or late night.
 
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johngordon

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According to the Verge they're already doing replays.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1/8876285/apple-beats-1-radio-replay-repeat-not-live

It's a little confusing because at WWDC Apple billed it as 24/7, and though they didn't actually use the word live I think that was the impression most people got. Who cares if it's 24/7 if 12 of the 24 hours are just replays of the previous 12 hours.



I rarely listen to local radio stations anymore. Do Clear Channel/iHeart Radio stations do replays during the day or middle of the night? How about BBC Radio stations?

No, but they're not broadcasting to the entire world.

Would you prefer it was live 24/7, but the shows you wanted to hear were on a 3am?

No, probably not.
 
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mizxco

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No, but they're not broadcasting to the entire world. Would you prefer it was live 24/7, but the shows you wanted to hear were on a 3am?

That depends, I live in Hong Kong and listen to BBC Radio 1 (UK) and Z100 (NY). Obviously their morning and drive-time shows aren't exactly my rush hours. But it's still fun to listen and enjoy curated Top 40 playlist, with a bit of chat in between.
 
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johngordon

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Beats 1 is so into repeat, Zane literally played Pharrell's new song 2 times in a row o_O

On BBC Radio 1, that would be against the station's playout policy.

So you never actually heard his show on Radio 1 then, where he did that all the time with the Hottest Record in the World?
 
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johngordon

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That depends, I live in Hong Kong and listen to BBC Radio 1 and Z100. Obviously their morning or drive-time show aren't exactly my morning hours, but it's still fun to listen and get hyped by the Top 40 music.

OK, I know you can get R1 on various services in some countries - but they are still broadcasting based on the UK time. If you happen too be able to catch a show on HK, all the better.

But they're not really broadcasting around the world in the same way that Beats 1 is.
 
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mizxco

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So you never actually heard his show on Radio 1 then, where he did that all the time with the Hottest Record in the World?

I listen to R1, but honestly I know Zane Lowe is all about music discovery and stuff
but I also find it to be the most boring and irrelevant show on R1.

It's not alternative music, it's just.. different genres of music put together
and Apple Music has to sort out their jingle package, at least the transition at R1 was decent.

But they're not really broadcasting around the world in the same way that Beats 1 is.

Agreed, but they're actually on SirusXM and Satellite radio and their tagline was once 'International Radio 1' when Chris Moyles was still around, remember?

I can see Beats 1 is trying to follow their footsteps.
 
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Rogifan

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No, but they're not broadcasting to the entire world.

Would you prefer it was live 24/7, but the shows you wanted to hear were on a 3am?

No, probably not.
I'm assuming they could tailor shows and content based on time zones? And then offer playback of shows for people that missed it?
 
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I'm assuming they could tailor shows and content based on time zones? And then offer playback of shows for people that missed it?

Based on who's time zones? Zane actually touched on this during his broadcast yesterday. Beats 1 is not tied to any particular time zone. It's global.
 
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Dj64Mk7

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Can someone please explain the programming blocks to me? Like, when does Beats 1 start repeating? Is it 12PM to 12AM and then repeats for the next 12 hours? Or just what?
 
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Kuroz

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I dont really understand how Apple is calling this the first 24/7 live radio. Do other countries not have iHeart Radio app? That plays actual radio stations from different cities. Wouldn't that be more live radio?
 
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AustinIllini

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Am I the only one annoyed that Beats 1 is not a Top 40 station?
It's almost like their target audience is between Eddy Cue and Eddy Cue.

I'm not saying it should be a bubble-pop station but you need to offer something that attracts people, when they exercise, when they drive, when they work. Something they look forward tuning-in to.
Ultimately, at some point I would expect Beats 1 to be followed by Beats 2, Beats 3 which are different genres. If not that, some sort of Beats Indie station or Beats Rock station. The problem is, Apple isn't a radio company like Sirius, so I don't know that they have the internal expertise to run these kinds of stations. They might, but I am uncertain.
 
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mizxco

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Ultimately, at some point I would expect Beats 1 to be followed by Beats 2, Beats 3 which are different genres.

In that case, shouldn't Beats 1 be the mainstream Top 40 radio then? That's how the BBC categorized it. You wouldn't want C-Span on ch#1 right?

Do other countries not have iHeart Radio app? That plays actual radio stations from different cities. Wouldn't that be more live radio?

The amount of people who thinks North America = the world on this forum is too damn high. No, not everyone in the world uses iHeartRadio.. it's only available in the US. The app works overseas but the web stream is region blocked.

If you're talking about the idea of it, it's the first station that comes to you from around the world I guess.
 
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