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I'm umming and ahhing over this.

I'm debating whether the jump from the 6 Plus to a 4" screen is going to be taking a step backwards. Also the 1080p screen to the 640p one on the SE is a is a slight niggle for me - although am I right in thinking the DPI is the same as the 6? Because I can't see much difference between that and my Plus. The contrast is supposed to be lesser on the SE too - how obvious will that be in real world usage?

Now, the camera, though I'd come across this problem if I were to wait for the 7. The lack of OIS is a bit poor, but again, I compared the camera to a standard 6 and couldn't see much difference. I guess it's just helps the most in low light?

I never had a 5S, but were the speakers comparable to the 6/6 Plus?

Oh, I also love the Plus' battery.

Anyway, they're the things that's stopping me pull the trigger on ordering an SE.

The SE looks perfect though; 6S performance, 2GB RAM, upgraded camera - not too fussed on the 1.2mp cam, I don't take selfies - pocketable -- doesn't bend...

Just the above issues are stopping me ordering it. That and along with just waiting for the 7, though if it's anything like the 6, it will be similar to the current 6S only with a different design and an extra couple of features (?).

So guys, if you could input your opinions, that'd be great - thanks!
 
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Unless you take a lot of photos at night and/or dimly-lit areas, you're probably not going to notice the lack of OIS.

Even though it's been a while, I don't remember the speaker on my old 4s being too bad. I can't imagine the speakers on the 5/5s/SE being significantly worse than the ones on the 6/6s.

If you use your phone like a mini tablet often, going to a smaller, lower-resolution, screen is going to suck. If you don't, then the smaller form-factor will be like a godsend for the reasons you mentioned.
 
Either wait until the 31st and go to the store and try one or order one and see if you like it. If you don't you can always send it back.
I've had every generation of iPhone since the 4. I even had the plus which is too big. So I went to a 6s which is still too big. I don't ever use 3D touch so that won't be a big deal. 2 more hours of battery time and something that doesn't fall out of my pocket is going to be awesome though.
 
There will always be something better in a few months. Always. Get what you need when you need it.
 
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I went from the 5s to a 6s Plus. The speakers were fine on the 5s, but I think the 6s+ speakers are better (and a bit louder). I really like my 6s plus, it's kind of big in the pocket, but I wouldn't want to go back to a 4 inch device.

It does sound like the SE is a nice upgrade for people who want a smaller phone though, faster processor, longer battery life, Apple Pay compatible, etc.
 
I'm umming and ahhing over this.

I'm debating whether the jump from the 6 Plus to a 4" screen is going to be taking a step backwards. Also the 1080p screen to the 640p one on the SE is a is a slight niggle for me - although am I right in thinking the DPI is the same as the 6? Because I can't see much difference between that and my Plus. The contrast is supposed to be lesser on the SE too - how obvious will that be in real world usage?

Now, the camera, though I'd come across this problem if I were to wait for the 7. The lack of OIS is a bit poor, but again, I compared the camera to a standard 6 and couldn't see much difference. I guess it's just helps the most in low light?

I never had a 5S, but were the speakers comparable to the 6/6 Plus?

Oh, I also love the Plus' battery.

Anyway, they're the things that's stopping me pull the trigger on ordering an SE.

The SE looks perfect though; 6S performance, 2GB RAM, upgraded camera - not too fussed on the 1.2mp cam, I don't take selfies - pocketable -- doesn't bend...

Just the above issues are stopping me ordering it. That and along with just waiting for the 7, though if it's anything like the 6, it will be similar to the current 6S only with a different design and an extra couple of features (?).

So guys, if you could input your opinions, that'd be great - thanks!
You sound…indecisive.

Would it help you to understand that the SE is NOT an upgrade from the 6/6s?

It's an upgrade from the 5s/5c. And in that light it's a superior phone. But coming from a 6s it's a downgrade.
 
You sound…indecisive.

Would it help you to understand that the SE is NOT an upgrade from the 6/6s?

It's an upgrade from the 5s/5c. And in that light it's a superior phone. But coming from a 6s it's a downgrade.

Haha you're so right.

I realise that, however I'm on a 6 Plus, besides the size difference it IS an upgrade due to the CPU and RAM.

I guess I'll just wait for reviews and try display models before I commit.
 
I'm having this same question myself. I ordered one to try it for a week and then I will make up my mind. My main reason for trying it is because I have 6S Plus and an iPad mini 4. I feel like I have two like devices and wonder if I have the need for both of them, so trying the SE will give me a chance to see if I will be happy with something smaller.
 
Just wait a bit then, why the hurry, let the first batch of bleeding edge folks come back with actual feedbacks.
 
I'm jumping from a 6 to an SE mostly because of the following reasons:

- better camera
- better chip
- $300 savings vs higher end model for me here in Canada
- presumably 2gb of ram

I don't have a 6S, though, a device which eliminates many of the 'pros' that outweighed the smaller screen size for me, and you may notice the loss of things like 3D touch, etc. Unless the cost savings is something that is a primary factor for you, you may want to stick with your current device.
 
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Went from a regular 6 back to a 5S. Didn't regret it one bit - the pocket-ability is worth so much more than the few bells and whistles.

I think if you are not certain, pick up a 5S. If you absolutely love the way it holds and feels, there will be no doubt the SE is for you.
 
You know I was in the same boat as you. I have been carrying a 6s+ for 5 months and the size has made using it in certain situations almost impossible. I have large hands and one hand texting and operation is impossible and that giant phone in my pocket has never been comfortable at all. My solution last week was to pick up a cheap 5s off craigslist and carry it for a few days to see if the drastic change from the + was something I could live with. Well after a week now I definitely have the answer and that's absolutely yes !!! I didn't realize how easy one handed use is and how much I missed that part when I used to carry an iPhone 5. With the specs of the SE and the pocketability of the 4" size I get the best all around fit for me. I have huge hands and the 5s hasn't hampered my ability to use the phone at all. In fact it's made life easier. I don't even notice the phone in my pocket anymore nor do I drop it every night on my face in bed because it's so light. Can't tell you how many times I did that with the +. That said its all subjective to the user. Web browsing and games, movies, etc are very crippled with the small screen but those are compromises I can live with given the ease of one handed operation. Now to sell this 5s and go pick up the SE next Friday.
 
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So is gaming and web browsing a big no no on the smaller phone?

I tend to use my Plus for web browsing, Whatsapp, SMS, and occasional FaceTime. I rarely play games - I have an Xbox One for that. When I'm going to work or whatever I use Music and Google Play Music in conjunction with each other - this is my first iPhone I synced everything to Google when I was on Android.

I have all of the Adobe CC companion apps on my phone, along with some other design apps which I may not use as much if I go to an SE, but I have a 2011 MacBook (with a recently installed SSD) and a late 2015 iMac, and obviously the full versions of CC, and they are companion apps so I guess a smaller screen would be okay.

As you can see I'm still debating ha. It's either this, wait for the 7, or get a 6S when it comes down in price. Comfortable size, vs slightly bigger screen, vs flagship. So decent price, vs reduced price (sill more than SE?), vs £600ish.

I suppose the SE would be good for me to use for the next 18 months and then I can get into the S cycle...
 
I tend to use my Plus for web browsing
I think for browsing the SE is going to be a bit constrained. I'm going from the plus to the SE, but I'm under no illusion that some things the Plus does better.

Again if you're not sure, hold off, there's no rush or need, so wait and see the phone yourself. If you have too, visit apple now, and see the 5s. Its going to be the same size, just new innards.
 
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I think for browsing the SE is going to be a bit constrained. I'm going from the plus to the SE, but I'm under no illusion that some things the Plus does better.

Again if you're not sure, hold off, there's no rush or need, so wait and see the phone yourself. If you have too, visit apple now, and see the 5s. Its going to be the same size, just new innards.

Just make sure if you go to a carrier store to see the 5S (assuming there is no Apple Store near you) make sure that they have their phones updated to iOS 9. I used a 5S at an AT&T store yesterday to get reacquainted with the size, and it was still running iOS 7... Ouch!
 
The SE has fewer LTE bands, making it a less capable "world phone."

Is it less than the 6? Doesn't really matter anyway, I don't use LTE when I go abroad. Too costly.

Tried a 5S in a store today. Well sort of, it wouldn't power up, but I just got a feel for the size. So much easier to use one handed. Tried my friends 6S. Nice too, at least compared to the Plus.
 
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