So genius recognizes all your songs?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by iHalo, Sep 12, 2009.

  1. iHalo macrumors regular

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    I don't really get how genius works when it comes to the behind the scenes stuff... What if I download a song off of an artist's myspace or something of the sort? Does Genius recognize that song as well?
     
  2. ipedro macrumors 68040

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    It uses the metadata (artist + album) to get the info. However, I don't think songs that aren't sold in iTunes will be considered for the Genius.

    I believe Genius works by recommending songs that people buy together with other songs. It also looks at your playlists and sends that information to the cloud of info. If many people follow the same pattern of playlists/songs purchased together, then those songs get tagged by Genius as going well together.

    So to answer your question: if the song you downloaded from a DJ on MySpace is also for sale on iTunes, and the artist and album are tagged correctly, Genius will consider it. If the song isn't available on iTunes, it may not be recognized.
     
  3. JazzCollector macrumors member

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    Genius hasn't risen to a genius level IMO. I have a large database of music as you can imagine from my forum name. The Genius results I've received have been underwhelming to say the least. It skews the results toward commercial music, smooth jazz, and rock. My collection is made up of about 20% of those styles of music, maximum. The rest is modern and avant jazz, most all of which is identified by the database (forget the name of it) that matches metadata from CDs when importing music into iTunes. The Genius mixes ignores the majority of my music collection, creating mixes largely made from this 20% of commercial oriented music.

    There is no avant/free jazz mix. I can't generate one using the select a song method - Genius tells me to pick a new song and try again. I have to say, from a jazz perspective my collection is not so far out of the ordinary to have it not recognize some of these song selections.
     
  4. bovas5 macrumors newbie

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    Other sources of music

    It should be realized that in addition to the huge database of genius there is another music world on the Internet, including many melodies other than the mainstream music of today’s performers.

    Best example is the world of MIDI audio files. For text search one can find many “MIDI Search engines” on the Internet, like vanBasco http://www.vanbasco.com/

    There are also various options to search with melody input, For an overview see: Wikihow.com: How to Identify Songs Using Melody http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Songs-Using-Melody

    Examples resulting in tunes of different type of audio files are Themefinder http://www.themefinder.org/ for classical MIDI files, MelodyCatcher http://www.melodycatcher.com/ for a broader range of MIDI files and Folk Tune Finder http://www.folktunefinder.com/ for ABC and MIDI files of International Folk.
     
  5. len57 macrumors newbie

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    Bovas you mentioned Van Basco in your response regarding Genius. Have you had any luck in getting the complete Van Basco System to operate properly on Mac?
     

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