So I bought another iMac G4...

[ryannel2003]

Thanks! It's in great shape other than a small pressure mark on the screen. I've got it all finished up running Leopard 10.5.8, iLife '09 and it has all my files on it. It is so much quicker and quieter than it runs before but it still has some interface lag. I think the machine would run better on Tiger but Leopard has more software available and is much more modern so I'm going to hold out for now. I might install Tiger on it down the road and see how it runs.

 

[Altemose]

@ryannel2003 Try disabling BeamSync.

 

[ryannel2003]

Thanks for the tip @Altemose. You've been a huge help!

 

[Dark Void]

Hey ryannel2003,

I remember seeing your post in the setups thread and I fanboy'd that keyboard of yours. I'm curious - are you using this as your main computer? Regarding your sig space, I see you also have a modern notebook.

The iMac and your setup are both looking great.

 

[ryannel2003]

Hey ryannel2003,

I remember seeing your post in the setups thread and I fanboy'd that keyboard of yours. I'm curious - are you using this as your main computer? Regarding your sig space, I see you also have a modern notebook.

The iMac and your setup are both looking great.

Thanks! It's not my main computer but I don't use my desk often so that's why I have it there. I know this sounds crazy but there are nights I sit in bed and just look at the iMac. It's such a beautiful design and if it ever dies i'll stick it somewhere as a piece of art.

My rMBP is my main machine and it gets used in my bed nearly 100% of the time. The iMac gets used for light web browsing, iPhoto and iTunes. With the SSD all of those apps run much faster than before. I'm trying to score a 20" G4 but they are hard to come by and extremely expensive on eBay. If I find one for $200 or less I'd be tempted to snatch it up.

 

[Dark Void]

Thanks! It's not my main computer but I don't use my desk often so that's why I have it there. I know this sounds crazy but there are nights I sit in bed and just look at the iMac. It's such a beautiful design and if it ever dies i'll stick it somewhere as a piece of art.

My rMBP is my main machine and it gets used in my bed nearly 100% of the time. The iMac gets used for light web browsing, iPhoto and iTunes. With the SSD all of those apps run much faster than before. I'm trying to score a 20" G4 but they are hard to come by and extremely expensive on eBay. If I find one for $200 or less I'd be tempted to snatch it up.

Very cool man.

You are unknowingly inspiring me to want to dive into PPC. I'm thinking about a PowerMac G5 or a PowerBook G4 - two entirely different form factors of course but I just recently moved into a new place and I have room on my setup for various different options. I really like your simplistic desk setup with a combination of old and newer hardware.

 

[Altemose]

@ryannel2003 Did disabling BeamSync make any difference?

 

[ryannel2003]

@ryannel2003 Did disabling BeamSync make any difference?

It made a small difference on a few things. My biggest areas of UI lag come from when opening apps and re-sizing of windows. I don't remember Tiger having that much trouble with it but then again I didn't have it installed that long. It's been such a long time since I had a PPC machine so it might be me being used to my rMBP.

 

[ryannel2003]

Very cool man.

You are unknowingly inspiring me to want to dive into PPC. I'm thinking about a PowerMac G5 or a PowerBook G4 - two entirely different form factors of course but I just recently moved into a new place and I have room on my setup for various different options. I really like your simplistic desk setup with a combination of old and newer hardware.

I looked at those two machines as well but the iMac G4 has always been my favorite Apple machine ever so I saw this one and had to have another.

 

[Altemose]

Tiger in general will have faster UI response on older machines.

 

[Gamer9430]

Very cool man.

You are unknowingly inspiring me to want to dive into PPC. I'm thinking about a PowerMac G5 or a PowerBook G4 - two entirely different form factors of course but I just recently moved into a new place and I have room on my setup for various different options. I really like your simplistic desk setup with a combination of old and newer hardware.

Feel free to join us! We all love our PPC macs. I'd recommend as your first to get a PowerMac G5. That was my first, and it really got me into it because I saw just how useful it was even today. I specifically have the Dual Processor 2.3. I'd recommend staying away from any G5s with a LCS.

Just remember, whatever computer you wind up getting if you decide to, it will not be your last, just ask either @bunnspecial or @eyoungren

 

[Dark Void]

Feel free to join us! We all love our PPC macs. I'd recommend as your first to get a PowerMac G5. That was my first, and it really got me into it because I saw just how useful it was even today. I specifically have the Dual Processor 2.3. I'd recommend staying away from any G5s with a LCS.

Just remember, whatever computer you wind up getting if you decide to, it will not be your last, just ask either @bunnspecial or @eyoungren

Not trying to hijack this thread (sorry ryannel2003) but thanks for this post. I really just love the look of the G5 and I have a space right on my floor for it next to my little desk area here. I have an Intel Mac mini though, as well as an older Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro - so if I do get something PPC related I would at least like to use it and not just have it "for fun." In other words I would at least like it to be a primary machine, so I am leaning towards a notebook to use along side of my more modern i5 machine with TB and USB3. Getting rid of my Mac mini for a G5 doesn't sound smart. I think you get the gist of what I am rambling about though - I want 1 desktop and 1 notebook, and whichever I potentially replace with PPC I want it to be the primary computer of either category.

I'm not sure what the best decision would be. I have heard recently that iBooks and PowerBooks have reached rock bottom in terms of resell value (is this true?) and therefore if that is accurate now would be a great time for me to get one of course.

I feel like a decent option would be to sell my 2010 MacBook Pro (which makes me sad) and I figure I can get around $300 or more for it, and use that money on a PowerBook. I don't need a notebook with power, I really only would like a notebook for browsing the web not at my desk, so I figure a PowerBook would be great - since I can sell my MacBook Pro, buy a PowerBook and still have spare funds more than likely. I'm not sure though - I am worried that even with a SSD and adequate RAM that it will be sluggish, plus I don't know if I fancy using alternative browsers to Chrome. I think Safari is sluggish on PPC Macs, correct? I also am kind of uneasy about purchasing used computers - but I don't know if I should be. What would you suggest for my sort of "setup"? Sorry for the barrage of questions, but thanks for your welcoming post to my timid half-step into this sub-forum lol.

 

[Altemose]

@Dark Void Personally, I would see if we have any members here who would sell there machine. Going from a 2010 Pro to a PowerBook is not a bright idea as even I, a dedicated PPC user, uses Intel Macs day in and day out. A G5 is still quite usable however and higher spec'd machines will handle nearly anything!

 

[Dark Void]

@Dark Void Personally, I would see if we have any members here who would sell there machine. Going from a 2010 Pro to a PowerBook is not a bright idea as even I, a dedicated PPC user, uses Intel Macs day in and day out. A G5 is still quite usable however and higher spec'd machines will handle nearly anything!

Thanks for your advice. My usage is extremely light in terms of a notebook these days, I literally only would use it for web browsing and forums when not at my desk.

I will be keeping my Mac mini more than likely -I figure if I can sell my Core 2 Duo in favor of a PowerBook that can handle my notebook usage, and still have a lot of money left over from that same sale it seems like a good idea.

 

[Gamer9430]

Not trying to hijack this thread (sorry ryannel2003) but thanks for this post. I really just love the look of the G5 and I have a space right on my floor for it next to my little desk area here. I have an Intel Mac mini though, as well as an older Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro - so if I do get something PPC related I would at least like to use it and not just have it "for fun." In other words I would at least like it to be a primary machine, so I am leaning towards a notebook to use along side of my more modern i5 machine with TB and USB3. Getting rid of my Mac mini for a G5 doesn't sound smart. I think you get the gist of what I am rambling about though - I want 1 desktop and 1 notebook, and whichever I potentially replace with PPC I want it to be the primary computer of either category.

I'm not sure what the best decision would be. I have heard recently that iBooks and PowerBooks have reached rock bottom in terms of resell value (is this true?) and therefore if that is accurate now would be a great time for me to get one of course.

I feel like a decent option would be to sell my 2010 MacBook Pro (which makes me sad) and I figure I can get around $300 or more for it, and use that money on a PowerBook. I don't need a notebook with power, I really only would like a notebook for browsing the web not at my desk, so I figure a PowerBook would be great - since I can sell my MacBook Pro, buy a PowerBook and still have spare funds more than likely. I'm not sure though - I am worried that even with a SSD and adequate RAM that it will be sluggish, plus I don't know if I fancy using alternative browsers to Chrome. I think Safari is sluggish on PPC Macs, correct? Sorry for the barrage of questions, but thanks for your welcoming post to my timid half-step into this sub-forum lol.

Let me tell you, I have an iBook G4 (Mid-spec model), and it is definitely sluggish on the Internet. While I don't have an SSD, or the full 2.5GB of RAM, but it is definitely sluggish. I was using it for a few months as my school laptop, because I needed something with a full OS as opposed to my iPad, and it worked well at first, but it slowed down a lot and then I got my lovely Dell Latitude E6410. I'd recommend keeping your 2010 MBP, because it's a lot more functional. I think a G5 would still be your best root. Swapping the C2D Mini may be equivalent in performance, but in terms of capabilities, the Mini has more modern ones, like the ability to use chrome (which I love as well). But you can still do just about anything on a G5.

I'd say swap the Mini for the G5.

 

[Dark Void]

Let me tell you, I have an iBook G4 (Mid-spec model), and it is definitely sluggish on the Internet. While I don't have an SSD, or the full 2.5GB of RAM, but it is definitely sluggish. I was using it for a few months as my school laptop, because I needed something with a full OS as opposed to my iPad, and it worked well at first, but it slowed down a lot and then I got my lovely Dell Latitude E6410. I'd recommend keeping your 2010 MBP, because it's a lot more functional. I think a G5 would still be your best root. Swapping the C2D Mini may be equivalent in performance, but in terms of capabilities, the Mini has more modern ones, like the ability to use chrome (which I love as well). But you can still do just about anything on a G5.

I'd say swap the Mini for the G5.

I don't know if I feel comfortable swapping the Mini. It's my main machine and it has much more updated hardware than my MacBook that is 4 and a half years old. If I swap desktops and get a G5, I will be losing a lot more than if I swapped my Core 2 Duo MacBook for a PowerBook.

I'm hoping to find a top spec 12'' PowerBook G4 and maxing it out in terms of RAM and a SSD. Surely such a machine can't be sluggish simply browsing the web, right?

Hm, as much as my clinical OCD (real OCD, not "apple OCD") hates it, perhaps I should simply just add a PowerBook to my lineup without replacing anything - but I truly don't see the point in that unless it was just for enjoyment ... which I guess isn't a bad reason.

 

[Altemose]

I would get a 1.5 or 1.67 GHz PowerBook G4 if you must go portable. I would add another machine to your Macs and not go out of your way to replace one.

 

[Gamer9430]

I don't know if I feel comfortable swapping the Mini. It's my main machine and it has much more updated hardware than my MacBook that is 4 and a half years old. If I swap desktops and get a G5, I will be losing a lot more than if I swapped my Core 2 Duo MacBook for a PowerBook.

I'm hoping to find a top spec 12'' PowerBook G4 and maxing it out in terms of RAM and a SSD. Surely such a machine can't be sluggish simply browsing the web, right?

Hm, as much as my clinical OCD (real OCD, not "apple OCD") hates it, perhaps I should simply just add a PowerBook to my lineup without replacing anything - but I truly don't see the point in that unless it was just for enjoyment ... which I guess isn't a bad reason.

Up to you, I agree with not getting rid of anything. You seem to be torn between getting rid of a computer, and which one you would get rid of. PowerBook G4s are definitely cheap, and I'm sure someone on here may be able to cut you a deal (not for free, but slightly discounted). Feel free to ask us on here for help in a new thread or if you have any questions after you get it, and of course, you are definitely allowed to join in any topic you are knowledgeable in. Welcome to the PPC community!

 

[Dark Void]

I would get a 1.5 or 1.67 GHz PowerBook G4 if you must go portable. I would add another machine to your Macs and not go out of your way to replace one.

Up to you, I agree with not getting rid of anything. You seem to be torn between getting rid of a computer, and which one you would get rid of. PowerBook G4s are definitely cheap, and I'm sure someone on here may be able to cut you a deal (not for free, but slightly discounted). Feel free to ask us on here for help in a new thread or if you have any questions after you get it, and of course, you are definitely allowed to join in any topic you are knowledgeable in. Welcome to the PPC community!

Thanks for the replies, you are true gentlemen as well as scholars.

Sorry for the brief hijack, I'm off with my acquired knowledge!

 

[Gamer9430]

Thanks for the replies, you are true gentlemen as well as scholars.

Sorry for the brief hijack, I'm off with my acquired knowledge!

Thanks man, that means a lot.

Don't worry about it, we have an unspoken motto to help out other users as best as we can (well now it's spoken, but whatever). Besides, we get off topic all the time, especially when users have "brilliant" ideas like hanging hard drives with magnets or something,

 

[Altemose]

Besides, we get off topic all the time, especially when users have "brilliant" ideas like hanging hard drives with magnets or something,

Magnets?

 

[Gamer9430]

Magnets?

I believe I shared that thread with you on Skype...

 

[ryannel2003]

So I bit the bullet and re-installed Tiger on my machine this morning. The only benefit of me having Leopard installed was that I could back-up to my Time Capsule but otherwise the machine was slower, had more graphical lag and just didn't run as well. I'm sticking to Tiger, iLife '04 and other older software and the machine already runs a lot better.

 

[MacCubed]

Aw man, I was gonna suggest disabling animations for opening apps. I have it on all my macs, more of an OCD continuity thing

 

[ryannel2003]

I was thinking of disabling the opening animations but I still wasn't happy with the overall performance of the machine. I ran Xbench yesterday on my Leopard installation and it scored a 40.97 and I ran it again today with Tiger installed and it ran a 48.10. The whole interface feels and runs quicker; not to mention the machine uses less memory. I'm pretty happy with it.

All I need to do now is find a cheap version of Halo CE for Mac to buy and I'll be set for good. I wish the servers for the Halo Demo still worked so I could play online. I have the best memories of playing that game on my eMac years ago.