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So I guess Apple just broke the App Store's updates tab on 10.11 – 10.13?

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App Store "Updates" looks very wrong - Apple Community

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It has been around a week that my Updates tab in the App Store looks like this:

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All the other tabs are looking normal.
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I ran into this in a VM last week. I thought it was a problem with my network at the time, but apparently not. Replies indicate this is happening as far back as El Capitan (10.11).

I would be one thing if this was happening on my Mavericks machine, but the App Store works perfectly there. On High Sierra though this is a little nuts, it isn't that old.

I mostly just wanted to share this so no one thinks they're going crazy, or that something is wrong with their computer. Anyone think Apple will actually fix it?
 
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Unfortunately I've recently upgraded my 2010 MBA to Mojave using the dosdude1 patcher, but on my 2006 iMac it seems the App Store renders correctly in Snow Leopard.

Maybe Apple has made 'improvements' to the App Store page without checking on backward compatibility. Once they are aware of the problem I'm sure it'll be addressed.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
Wowfunhappy said:

App Store "Updates" looks very wrong - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com discussions.apple.com
Ask Different: App Store Updates does not renders correctly in High Sierra



I ran into this in a VM last week. I thought it was a problem with my network at the time, but apparently not. Replies indicate this is happening as far back as El Capitan (10.11).

I would be one thing if this was happening on my Mavericks machine, but the App Store works perfectly there. On High Sierra though this is a little nuts, it isn't that old.

I mostly just wanted to share this so no one thinks they're going crazy, or that something is wrong with their computer. Anyone think Apple will actually fix it?
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My work MBP is held on High Sierra (10.13) for work/app related reasons. But a quick check shows the same. Not that it affects me much as I can't update this MBP until I'm told I can.
 
Hughmac said:
Unfortunately I've recently upgraded my 2010 MBA to Mojave using the dosdude1 patcher, but on my 2006 iMac it seems the App Store renders correctly in Snow Leopard.
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Yep, I'm pretty sure the problem is for 10.11 – 10.13.
 
MultiFinder17 said:
...huh. Go team I guess.

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That also happened on the late 2009 iMac I use at the electronics recycling/reselling warehouse I work at. But then again, I mostly use it to browse the Internet, print labels and use the Slack messaging software. Though one of my co-workers did mention that some time in the future they'll try to upgrade me to a newer iMac or something, since I am pretty much the Apple expert there.
 
I just posted a thread about this myself and didn't realize this was already mentioned. Has anyone posted to Apple about this? Would it be worth contacting them somehow?
 
I am experiencing the same issue, tried pretty much everything i can think of, Updates, Reset, Restart, Force Quit...
Am running MacPro 5.1 2012. What an odd happen-stance. :)
 
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i got high sierra 10.13.6 on my minimac , same problem with the app store
 

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Compatible updates are still working...using 10.13 via NZ app store.
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Do we have a solution for this? Or are we just out of luck in relation to the App store?

It's also very strange that 10.11 - 10.13 is only affected by this. I think Apple has made a mistake somewhere in a recent server code that caused this.

Note Well - this affects more than just early intel Macs. The 2011 Macs are the most recent to be maxed out (officially) at 10.13. My 2011 iMac maxed out on 10.13 is affected by this issue.
 
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Wowfunhappy said:
There's nothing to do, its a server-side problem. The screen is still fully functional, it just looks weird.

I believe 10.6–10.10 are unaffected because they don't use webviews for the app store.
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I think it has to do with Apple and Google adopting a 1 year (397 days) SSL/TLS certificate validity for web security. This started after September 2020 for Apple. SSL/TLS certificates were used to be valid for lifetime, then 5 years, then shrank to 3 years and then 2 years and now Apple went with 1 year validity followed by Google! Mojave works since it's still supported.

About upcoming limits on trusted certificates - Apple Support (CA)

In our ongoing efforts to improve web security for our users, Apple is reducing the maximum allowed lifetimes of TLS server certificates.
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Nope, those are intermediate certs. Root certs are good for decades or more! (Also, we can fix HTTPS problems, remember?)

You could probably set up MITMProxy to see the CSS file it's trying to load. Come to think of it, you might even be able to redirect it to your own stylesheet... 🤔
 
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Wowfunhappy said:
Nope, those are intermediate certs. Root certs are good for decades or more! (Also, we can fix HTTPS problems, remember?)

You could probably set up MITMProxy to see the CSS file it's trying to load. Come to think of it, you might even be able to redirect it to your own stylesheet... 🤔
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Yes we can, but is it not with certs issued on or after September 2020 that are only good for up to 397 days? I mean Mojave is still supported and the app store works for now. If the app store stops working like it did with 10.11-13, then the reason for that would become more obvious I think?
 
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