So, M1 is the best MacBook right now, correct?

[dukebound85]

i recently bought a used 16inch mbp because the M1 is not able to:

- bootcamp
- utilize my egpu set up
- drive my 4 monitors

Benchmarks are hit or miss between the 2 machines. However, the price point of the m1 vs 16in is where the 16in is not as good a value...hence why i bought mine second hand

 

[richinaus]

Battery life?
My company-provided Dell laptop has a battery life of 30 minutes. Between car chargers, power banks, solar chargers, and public outlets, battery life hasn't been an issue for a few years now. That being said, I do think the M1 MBP battery life is pretty amazing.

Fans?
I can live with them or without them. My iPP is silent, which is cool, but my world doesn't end when fan noise kicks in on my computers.

Burning?
uhhh, just take it off your legs?

Specific software?
I don't understand why I, as a consumer, would ever want that? Why lock myself into Apple products?

I don't mean to argue; I get what you're saying, and I'm sure things will be great ten years from now (privacy issues aside), but today, answering the OPs question, I don't see why the M1 would be better than the i9 16".

Now, I would never buy the 2019 16" mbp, but that is because of the integrated parts, not because I think it is outclassed or obsolete. I hate the thought of having to replace the entire computer if there is an issue with the storage or ram.

Anyways, I'm monitoring this thread because I have a hard time believing the M1 MacBook is significantly faster than the dGPU Intel MacBooks, even the 2013 MBP. I'm hoping someone could provide some real-world evidence. A quick search will show me seemingly infinite comparisons, but a closer read reveals the author is using a mbp with Intel HD, or Intel Iris graphics; it is quite tiring.

Bought the M1 mac mini. Tested the GPU on my apps. Instantly returned. Still have the 16"MBP......

 

[richinaus]

Graphic performance... But, value for money absolutely. Wait until M1X in a few months and it will blow intel away.
Current compatibility. No. but it's getting better every month.
Power consumption. Massive yes.
CPU benchmark. It depends, but again, we are talking the bottom of the barrel M1 chips against mid to top of the line intel. bang for buck absolutely yes.
Quiet performance. No comparison. M1 is a fantastic.
Future compatibility with Mac OS. Massive Yes. the new OS disables a few features for intel Macs and it will only get worse from there.

I would very much caution anybody buying an intel mac not to do so unless they know why they are getting intel over AS. By the end of November you may not even have a choice to buy an intel mac laptop. It remains to be seen if Apple will continue to sell the intel versions of their pro line up once the 14 and 16 are released.

I do hope the M1X starts to show developers the potential of the chip and they fully support it. All my cross platform apps run better on windows currently [mac apps excepted].

 

[rafark]

Just think... M1 is the "worst" M-series processor that will ever be in a Mac. And it's still pretty great. It can only go up from here.

Hmm I don’t know ‘bout that. Maybe in a few years Apple will introduce a worse chip for a lower end Mac. (A cheapest MacBook).

 

[Michael Scrip]

Hmm I don’t know ‘bout that. Maybe in a few years Apple will introduce a worse chip for a lower end Mac. (A cheapest MacBook).

Well sure... anything's possible.

But I don't know why Apple would put a "worse" chip in a future "cheap" Macbook. Silicon doesn't tend to go backwards.

Maybe a 2024 CheapBook would have an "old" M1 in it. But I don't think Apple would spend resources to make a future chip that is slower than today's M1.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[jdb8167]

not a big Chromebook fan, mine in the past was slow :/

A Chromebook with a core-i5 is probably going to be pretty speedy. The problem with Chromebooks is that you have to log into Google.

 

[rafark]

Well sure... anything's possible.

But I don't know why Apple would put a "worse" chip in a future "cheap" Macbook. Silicon doesn't tend to go backwards.

Maybe a 2024 CheapBook would have an "old" M1 in it. But I don't think Apple would spend resources to make a future chip that is slower than today's M1.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think it’s totally possible. Macs are not iOS devices. It’s a different industry. I don’t know, maybe the current M1 will become a mid-tier chip. I think it’s not impossible for Apple to introduce a slower as well as a faster chip to complete the family.

 

[smoking monkey]

I think it’s totally possible. Macs are not iOS devices. It’s a different industry. I don’t know, maybe the current M1 will become a mid-tier chip. I think it’s not impossible for Apple to introduce a slower as well as a faster chip to complete the family.

Ha. Reminds me of this... 6:32~7:15.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I think it’s totally possible. Macs are not iOS devices. It’s a different industry. I don’t know, maybe the current M1 will become a mid-tier chip. I think it’s not impossible for Apple to introduce a slower as well as a faster chip to complete the family.

Yes... I think the current M1 could remain as a mid-tier option in the future.

But I don't think Apple will spend time and resources to develop a new but slower chip in the future.

Apple is now developing their own chips on their own roadmaps and can do whatever they want... but I don't think they will go backwards.

Apple has reused older chips in newer products.... like the 2018 A12 in the 2021 AppleTV 4K. So I could see Apple reusing this same M1 in a future budget Macbook, for instance.

But in my opinion... I don't think Apple will "introduce a worse chip" as you stated earlier.

I guess we'll have to wait and find out. That's all we can do. Story developing.

 

[GuruZac]

Yes... I think the current M1 could remain as a mid-tier option in the future.

But I don't think Apple will spend time and resources to develop a new but slower chip in the future.

Apple is now developing their own chips on their own roadmaps and can do whatever they want... but I don't think they will go backwards.

Apple has reused older chips in newer products.... like the 2018 A12 in the 2021 AppleTV 4K. So I could see Apple reusing this same M1 in a future budget Macbook, for instance.

But in my opinion... I don't think Apple will "introduce a worse chip" as you stated earlier.

I guess we'll have to wait and find out. That's all we can do. Story developing.

Honestly, the fact the 2021 ATV4K had the A12 and nothing else is why I kept my 2017 ATV4K. Just ordered the new remote. The 2021 ATV4K should have at least had the A12Z or even A13 since that one is still in production in the 2020 iPhone SE. Honestly, it should have had the A14.