So Macintosh Repository Works On IE5 W/ Mac OS 9

[alex_free]

Not sure if this common knowledge, but I found this pretty cool.

I opened Internet Explorer 5 after a new install of OS 9.2.2 on the G3 clamshell 300MHZ, now with maxed RAM. I loaded google and searched for Clasilla.

Came across the Macintosh Repository Clasilla page. Clicked it and got an SSL error.

But I already knew that if you changed the beginning of the Macintosh repository address from https to http you could get in with no SSL/TLS whatsoever. It even gives you a nice message for figuring out https isn’t enforced and it’s a feature! How wonderful.

But what I didn’t know, was could I really download clasilla with Internet Explorer 5 on Mac OS 9 in 2020? Could the entire site actually work?

Well, first I tried the http download. It simply downloaded download.php (browser incompatibility?). So then I tried FTP. And of course it worked, it’s FTP.

 

[z970]

It's this sort of determined, educated problem solving that is such a treasure to see in computer users today.

Even if I'm not surprised anyone from this forum could figure that out, I still hope we're not a minority concerning that.

 

[galgot]

Interesting.
Have you tried that with the Macintosh Garden ?
Cause I would rather go there, the Mac Repo being almost just a mirror of it,
With the added bothers that one must register/log in to download and the ads...

 

[Project Alice]

Interesting.
Have you tried that with the Macintosh Garden ?
Cause I would rather go there, the Mac Repo being almost just a mirror of it,
With the added bothers that one must register/log in to download and the ads...

Macintosh garden isn’t SSL/TSL anyways. I’ve gone on there with classilla and it works. I haven’t tried IE though. I get PTSD from using IE, so I generally avoid it lol

 

[MacFoxG4]

Macintosh Garden works with Netscape 4.x. Netscape will always be my favorite browser.

 

[retta283]

@galgot raises some valid points. I refuse to use that site due to the behavior of its moderators and uploaders. I've had some bad engagements with them in the past, they even banned my account. Most of that I account to the fact that I criticized the download limits without donation as being damaging to abandonware communities. I was perfectly civil in my arguments, but they could not take the criticism.

The Garden has been a useful resource though. I know some great guys that help out there, they also have a lot of helpful members in their forums. In terms of browser support, all OS X browsers I've touched in the last 10 years have worked with the Garden. Even ancient Safari/iE versions worked. Haven't had much experience with OS 9 browsers since the early 2000s.

 

[z970]

Macintosh Repository never had much in the way of popularity points with the local communities. This has been an irksome issue for years.

http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/drain-other-web-site

http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/who-the-fck-running-hte-macintoshrepository

 

[alex_free]

Interesting.
Have you tried that with the Macintosh Garden ?
Cause I would rather go there, the Mac Repo being almost just a mirror of it,
With the added bothers that one must register/log in to download and the ads...

Clasilla is required to connect they enforce at least TLS 1.
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Macintosh garden isn’t SSL/TSL anyways. I’ve gone on there with classilla and it works. I haven’t tried IE though. I get PTSD from using IE, so I generally avoid it lol

It is TLS, it’s just such an old TLS Clasilla works.

 

[galgot]

Clasilla is required to connect they enforce at least TLS 1.
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It is TLS, it’s just such an old TLS Clasilla works.

I see ...

The Macintosh Garden has an ftp access too btw :

https://macintoshgarden.org/forum/public-access-file-repository

 

[alex_free]

I see ...

The Macintosh Garden has an ftp access too btw :

https://macintoshgarden.org/forum/public-access-file-repository

Oh forgot that’s basically a loop hole.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Does this still work ? I may try it with my Pismo.
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Really, i think all non-financial websites should offer http, any sites devoted to classic macs should all be http regardless.

 

[alex_free]

Does this still work ? I may try it with my Pismo.
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Really, i think all non-financial websites should offer http, any sites devoted to classic macs should all be http regardless.

Just explicitly specify http

 

[Macbookprodude]

Macintosh Garden works with Netscape 4.x. Netscape will always be my favorite browser.

Hmm. partially, I am on it already and can confirm that it BARELY works.. IE5 worked fine.. haven't tried classila. I guess the internet browsing in OS 9 until classila is updated with new TLS 1.3 can be used for old mac sites.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Question.. Because of Covid-19, something strange is going on - Suddenly, Classila is able to browse a good portion of the net.. Anyone notice that ? Maybe a lot of the country has remote areas that people still use old computers ?

 

[alex_free]

Question.. Because of Covid-19, something strange is going on - Suddenly, Classila is able to browse a good portion of the net.. Anyone notice that ? Maybe a lot of the country has remote areas that people still use old computers ?

Not sure what websites other then the garden have allowed either insecure http connections or obsolete TLS connections since this happened.

 

[bobesch]

But what I didn’t know, was could I really download clasilla with Internet Explorer 5 on Mac OS 9 in 2020? Could the entire site actually work?
Well, first I tried the http download. It simply downloaded download.php (browser incompatibility?). So then I tried FTP. And of course it worked, it’s FTP.

Macintosh Garden works with Netscape 4.x. Netscape will always be my favorite browser.

Wow, that's great!
After Software Restore of os9 there's always Internet-Explorer and Netscape Navigater preinstalled, and the key to a full install of my favorite stuff is based on Classilla, Stuffit-Expander (pre-installed) and Toast5 to get access to archives and images...
So this way to get hands on Classilla is the clue for full installation from the scratch without any external help!
Thanks!

 

[Macbookprodude]

Netscape, I’d like to add is ok, but unstable as nothing really works with it, unless a proxy server was feeding it. IE5.1.7 works ok, still nothing really renders right. So far classila seems to be the better option, naturally.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Not sure if this common knowledge, but I found this pretty cool.

I opened Internet Explorer 5 after a new install of OS 9.2.2 on the G3 clamshell 300MHZ, now with maxed RAM. I loaded google and searched for Clasilla.

Came across the Macintosh Repository Clasilla page. Clicked it and got an SSL error.

But I already knew that if you changed the beginning of the Macintosh repository address from https to http you could get in with no SSL/TLS whatsoever. It even gives you a nice message for figuring out https isn’t enforced and it’s a feature! How wonderful.

But what I didn’t know, was could I really download clasilla with Internet Explorer 5 on Mac OS 9 in 2020? Could the entire site actually work?

Well, first I tried the http download. It simply downloaded download.php (browser incompatibility?). So then I tried FTP. And of course it worked, it’s FTP.

Is there anything else IE 5 works with besides calling home to Macintosh repository ?

 

[weckart]

Is there anything else IE 5 works with besides calling home to Macintosh repository ?

You can try Macintoshgarden. They have been making the website backwards compatible and I think they did a barebones homepage for really old browsers at one stage. Otherwise, IE5 might work with Web Rendering Proxy or something like that for more modern sites.