So note 3 won't be pentile either like note 2?

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  1. Truefan31 macrumors 68040

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    Odd that the note uses non pentile while the s3 and s4 use pentile. I guess it'd be better if the note 3 continued being nonpentile as well. Hopefully the ppi is increased as well maybe at least 325
     
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  3. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    Yes it does.
     
  4. skratch77 macrumors 65816

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    With the ppi of the gs4 the whole pentile this and that can be thrown out the window.I can put 2 phones next to each other and you wont be able to tell witch has a pentile vs 3 sub pixel lcd.

    From what I read online anyway is the gs4 is using a diamond matrix pixel array and not the same pentile as the gs3

    here is a close up for you to see the difference.

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    you are wrong it uses a diamond aray
     
  5. Krimsonmyst macrumors 6502

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    It's still technically a PenTile matrix, but the different pixel array will make it a lot sharper.
     
  6. skratch77 macrumors 65816

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    looks pretty good to me!I cant wait to get one :)

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    gs3 uses RGBG pentile aray and the gs4 will use RGB diamond matrix

    pentile means they are layed down the way my pic shows and the gs4 is nothing like the gs3 screen
     
  7. Lindsford macrumors 6502a

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    Source?
     
  8. skratch77, Mar 23, 2013
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    Ok so I just spent the last 30 min trying to figure out the difference,from what I found out.Most amoled screens use either Red,Green,Blue,Green in a pentile matrix.The amoled plus screens(like in the note 2)use a Red,Green,Blue strip matrix but it has a lot of blue strips(prolly why white looks blue) and the new gs4 will use the same Red,Green,Blue,Green setup but not in a strip or pentile maxtrix and made the pixels into a diamond shape to fill the best they could to separate all the colors.

    At its ppi it should look stunning and its not 100% strip or pentile,its like a said...diamond matrix

    Here is the note 2 that uses a strip RGB non pentile display and the gs3 next to it using RGBG pentile while the gs4 uses a whole new matrix but still a RGBG setup but in a diamond aray so it makes it almost a true RGB screen at its ppi

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  9. Truefan31 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    so if the note 2 wasn't a pentile screen, it was a 3 subpixel lcd display, it was better than the s3 display? So do you think the note 3 will have an enhanced display as well? I can't imagine the note 3 being 441 ppi, but at least 325 would make it look great right?
     
  10. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    I know they are different and it's a big improvement over S3 but it is still pentile.
     
  11. blackhand1001 macrumors 68030

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    The note II was an rgb superamoled display.
     
  12. skratch77 macrumors 65816

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    The note 2 uses a super amoled plus strip rgb display.

    I don't know why some people think because a screen is amoled it has to be pentile.

    The gs4 is not strip or pentile,its diamond shaped!
     
  13. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    In general I thought people reviewing the S4 were saying that the Pentile screen (or what ever variant was being used) had such a high resolution that it was not noticeable. Seems plausible to me, we don't often view phones with a microscope. I'm still not sold on Android, but the Prentile screen issue seems like a moot point to me.
     
  14. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601

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    Pentile has improved tremendously since the days of the Motorola Atrix (while a pile of crap that was)
     
  15. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    Google s4 pentile an a thousand sources come up claiming its pentile but just in a new arrangement.
     
  16. maxosx macrumors 68020

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    Disclaimer. I am neither arguing, nor challenging.

    I'm simply sharing my personal first hand experience as I own & have been using each of the models named in this thread. I'm a smartphone addict, tech addict, and "I've got to see it for myself" type of enthusiast :)

    Each & everyone one has its own pro's & cons with the biggest drawbacks being displays of any type (other that retina) that are 18 months or older. All recent types are very impressive.

    When compared side by side with my iPhone 5, you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference of consequence.

    Only the tech nerds like myself get so involved & find each of these very interesting.

    At the end of the day, the latest top of the line Nexus, Samsung Galaxy, HTC, LG models are all stellar.
     
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    The particular arrangement the S3 uses is what makes it pentile. The S4 has a different arrangement. it isn't just a variant of pentile.

    Skratch77 has a perfect picture illustrating the difference.
     
  18. zbarvian macrumors 68010

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    It has a diamond array or whatever, but can anyone claim to know how that will affect image quality? Truthfully I don't care much anymore, as long as I can't see it.
     
  19. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    Ahhh gotcha. I was under the impression that it was a variant of pentile. I didn't realize pentile was just a particular matrix. Sorry.
     
  20. nick_elt macrumors 68000

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    call it what you want, that arrangement looks better than even the note 2 plus at 441 ppi it will be amazing. complain about plastic or whatever you want to but can't complain about that screen.
     
  21. Lindsford macrumors 6502a

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    That's not what I gathered from the information i've read, or the diagrams i've seen. That's why I was questioning it. Regardless I'm gonna try out an S4.
     
  22. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    Regardless of what Samsung wants to call it, at that PPI the screen will look fine as long as the colors are good.
     
  23. Bahroo macrumors 68000

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    Pentile is still pentile at the end of the day, its true PPI isnt 440 like the other devices, but im sure the screen still looks great
     
  24. Truefan31 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Well if the note 3 can be 325+ ppi with a 3 subpixel LCD I think we'd all be happy with that. Still think its odd that the s4 screen is different then the notes
     
  25. skratch77 macrumors 65816

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    Did some more reading on the subject and found this chart for Samsung

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    Samsung’s new AMOLED displays are as sharp as diamonds!

    Samsung is going to use a new technology inside their upcoming SuperAMOLED displays. The new Full HD SuperAMOLED panels are going to use a diamond or a hexagonal based structure. The new diamond a hexagonal based structure allows Samsung to achieve 440ppi+ pixel density in its mobile displays and also makes the display a bit sharper. Samsung has been developing those by utilizing the Laser-Induced Thermal Imaging (LITI) production process, which is cheaper and allows for much smaller subpixels to be laid out than the conventional Fine Metal Mask (FMM).

    What with this being Samsung and all you’d expect that this is going to be an AMOLED display and that’s just what we’re hearing out of the rumor mill. At 4.99″, with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 it’ll pack an impressive 440 ppi density that bests the iPhone’s “retina” density of 326 ppi. AMOLED displays have always had a stigma surrounding their sub-pixel arrangement and the Galaxy S III was criticized for using a PenTile arrangement but, the screen has since been praised as one of the best out there. Now, there is talk of this 4.99″ display to utilize hexagonal and diamond-shaped pixels in order to push all those pixels into an AMOLED display.

    Samsung are able to do this through the use of their Laser-Induced Thermal Imaging (LITI) as opposed to the older Fine Metal Mask (FMM) process that was used in previous displays. There were rumors that Samsung were struggling to get mass-production of the panel all worked out but now it looks like everything is a-okay for the Galaxy S IV’s display. The use of hexagonal and diamond-shaped pixels is said to help AMOLED displays squeeze in more pixels than the traditional side-by-side layout of older displays. I’m not the biggest fan of AMOLED displays and much prefer IPS panels but there’s no denying that the S III’s display is vivid and bright, Super AMOLED displays are one of Samsung’s biggest differentiators in the smartphone game and they’re hoping that their display will come out on top of the Super LCD IPS that HTC and Sony seem to be using.
     

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