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I'm just curious as to how this automatic switching of the GPU works? Say if I only want to use the integrated gpu all day, would automatic switch conflict with this from conserving battery life?
 
What happens is that the OS will consider the resources/processes running and make the switch depending on what's needed.

So if you're running simple applications it will remain with the Intel HD GPU. Anything else, the GeForce 3xx kicks in.
 
What about for using expose/widget stuff? All of those animations are a bit choppy for me on 9400m based machines, and the integrated stuff in these new machines is worse right? Curious how that will work.
 
I'm just curious as to how this automatic switching of the GPU works? Say if I only want to use the integrated gpu all day, would automatic switch conflict with this from conserving battery life?

Anyone know if it works better than Optimus?
 
What about for using expose/widget stuff? All of those animations are a bit choppy for me on 9400m based machines, and the integrated stuff in these new machines is worse right? Curious how that will work.

How many widgets do you have and how many windows choke Exposé?

I have the 17" uMBP with the 9400M running most of the time and I don't experience any choppiness unless I have a lot of windows open.
 
What about for using expose/widget stuff? All of those animations are a bit choppy for me on 9400m based machines, and the integrated stuff in these new machines is worse right? Curious how that will work.

You can turn automatic switching off, which means only the most powerful solution will be used.

On a side note I've been looking for a solution for choppy 9400m graphics, and after running the quartz debug tool (from the Apple developer tools), everything was actually tonnes better. You can also disable beam sync from there for improved performance, which is what I intended to do, but everything was so much better after just opening the debug tool that I left it alone.

I don't know what happened, but the graphics on the 9400m are silky smooth now!
 
i guess there will be settings for using only integrated in the preferences window. i also guess that most users won't care about this at all or permanently switch on the dedicated GPU.
 
How many widgets do you have and how many windows choke Exposé?

I have the 17" uMBP with the 9400M running most of the time and I don't experience any choppiness unless I have a lot of windows open.

On every 9400m machine I've used, two laptops, and a mac mini, it was choppy with just 1 or 2 windows. I'm talking the difference between 30fps, and 60fps. When you know what the super smooth 60fps looks like, anything less just looks bad.
 
I wonder if there will be glitches from certain applications that will trigger the nvidia 330m gt card when it isnt a desired choice and people will be complaining about 3 hour battery life on the go.
 
laptopmag indicates that the new laptops do NOT have automatic switching graphics. Can anyone else confirm?

http://blog.laptopmag.com/apple-announces-new-macbook-pro-line

Apple's website does not mention the automatic switching either.

Yeah it does. It ain't optimus but it still switches.

Apple Website said:
On-demand performance.
Off-the-charts efficiency.
The 15- and 17-inch MacBook Pro models come standard with automatic graphics switching. It’s a breakthrough technology from Apple that switches graphics processors on the fly to give you performance when you need it (when you’re playing the latest 3D game, for example) and better battery efficiency when you don’t (such as when you’re reading email). MacBook Pro transfers the workload between the powerful discrete NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M graphics processor and integrated Intel HD Graphics so seamlessly, you won’t even notice. Whether you’re using applications like Aperture, Motion, or Final Cut Pro or just surfing the web, your MacBook Pro always knows which processor to use. You don’t have to log out, shut down, or change your preferences. Automatic graphics switching does it all for you.
 
Apple's website does not mention the automatic switching either.

It does?

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You beat me to it!! lol.

Whatcha downloadin there, mister? Something illegal?

On a serious note, I am very curious how these gpus will perform in the new MBP, along side their iprocessors. I'm satisfied with my current MBP (early april 2009), beyond considering an upgrade, but I do want to see how these guys perform. Does anyone know if they're being sold at local apple stores yet?
 
When the auto switch is disabled, only the discrete can be used. I found this a bit crap. I'd like to have the choice. (Via Engadget)
 

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i guess there will be settings for using only integrated in the preferences window. i also guess that most users won't care about this at all or permanently switch on the dedicated GPU.

Nope. Perhaps in the future but as of right now, the only options are automatic and discrete.

When the auto switch is disabled, only the discrete can be used. I found this a bit crap. I'd like to have the choice. (Via Engadget)

Understand how you feel. I would love the control too. I don't feel comfortable having the computer do things for me. I mean, the switching technology has to be VERY intuitive in a way that the discrete isn't triggered by something like watching YouTube or something.
 
I'm concerned with how this will work in bootcamp. Does the user still have the ability to choose which graphics solution will be used while running windows, or will it default to the dedicated 330m?
 
Understand how you feel. I would love the control too. I don't feel comfortable having the computer do things for me. I mean, the switching technology has to be VERY intuitive in a way that the discrete isn't triggered by something like watching YouTube or something.

Exactly. When I'm in the train I want to be sure to save as much power as possible.

I'm concerned with how this will work in bootcamp. Does the user still have the ability to choose which graphics solution will be used while running windows, or will it default to the dedicated 330m?
As far as I'm concerned, in boot camp I'll be using only the 330M but switching would be nice as well. I hope Apple will provide drivers for Windows.
 
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