So **** pissed Apple removed keyboard shortcut for Apple Passwords in menubar 🤬🤬🤬

[sniffies]

In beta 4, you were able to press ⇧⌘P to open Apple Passwords in menubar. Surprisingly I was using it quite often. Then they removed this keyboard shortcut. Now there's no way to recreate this function natively. I don't wanna have to use a third-party app for this.

 

[fisherking]

we're in a beta cycle; things come & go. so that functionality could return... or not. the price we pay for running betas.

 

[Adora]

There is something wrong with the Keyboard Settings generally. Setting app shortcuts seem not to work. We had this problem here with someone who wants to launch the calculator with F13 and it just didn't work.

I just tried your combination to set an App Shortcut for the Passwords App and it didn't work too. It should even be possible to find the file for just that menu bar app. But it's not worth the hassle so search for it now if it doesn't work anyway.

I am using a third party app for key changes since a few weeks, but in the last time the Keyboard Setting crash very often and causes this app also not to work correctly anymore.

 

[zevrix]

In beta 4, you were able to press ⇧⌘P to open Apple Passwords in menubar. Surprisingly I was using it quite often. Then they removed this keyboard shortcut. Now there's no way to recreate this function natively. I don't wanna have to use a third-party app for this.

There was a thread about it earlier. This shortcut was a bad idea, as was the way it was implemented. It disabled the ⇧⌘P in many apps, including Finder, and it couldn't be customized.

Fortunately, Apple got rid of it. Maybe one day there will be another, properly implemented and user-friendly option for a Passwords shortcuts. I know you don't want to use a 3rd-party app, but there are several of them around that can do what you need.

 

[sniffies]

There was a thread about it earlier. This shortcut was a bad idea, as was the way it was implemented. It disabled the ⇧⌘P in many apps, including Finder, and it couldn't be customized.

Fortunately, Apple got rid of it. Maybe one day there will be another, properly implemented and user-friendly option for a Passwords shortcuts. I know you don't want to use a 3rd-party app, but there are several of them around that can do what you need.

Perhaps that specific key combination was a bad idea, but the shortcut itself is an absolute must. Why they couldn't just let us customize it in the first place boggles my mind. The fact that Apple lets you set up custom keyboard shortcuts for most inane things makes their decision to remove it even more infuriating.

 

[sniffies]

I know you don't want to use a 3rd-party app, but there are several of them around that can do what you need.

Btw, which third-party apps accomplish this? I don't wanna use Bartender because it requires Screen Recording permission. Is there an app that does not require Screen Recording permission to toggle menubar items? Thanks.

 

[zevrix]

Btw, which third-party apps accomplish this? I don't wanna use Bartender because it requires Screen Recording permission. Is there an app that does not require Screen Recording permission to toggle menubar items? Thanks.

Ok I see. You want to toggle the menu bar item, not just launch the app.

I don't know if there's an app that doesn't require Screen Recording permission for this.

 

[zevrix]

P.S. As far as I understand, Bartender doesn't really have to record your screen unless you're using certain features, not completely sure (I'm myself not using it):

Bartender 5 - macOS purple menu bar item - "Bartender 5 is capturing your screen"

Bartender 5

www.macbartender.com

 

[Adora]

Btw, which third-party apps accomplish this? I don't wanna use Bartender because it requires Screen Recording permission. Is there an app that does not require Screen Recording permission to toggle menubar items? Thanks.

This one here can almost do anything. It is free and public domain. It requires "Input Monitoring" but not "Screen Recording".

Karabiner-Elements

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[Adora]

P.S. As far as I understand, Bartender doesn't really have to record your screen unless you're using certain features, not completely sure (I'm myself not using it):

Bartender 5 - macOS purple menu bar item - "Bartender 5 is capturing your screen"

Bartender 5

www.macbartender.com

I used this for a while a few month ago because it is in Setapp. It helped me to arrange the menu bar better on my MBP and sometimes needed screen recording for reasons I didn't understand. Also strange things happened to my menu bar without doing anything while this app was running. I deleted it then again.

It somehow worked without screen recording, but I never really understood that app.

Since im am using an iMac without a gap in the menu bar and the larger display, I don't care about how many things are in there.

Didn't even know it also can change keyboard settings, but I think screen recording is only needed for displaying things correctly in the menubar, so you don't need to activate it.

P.S.: I just stated Bartender (latest version, whatever that is) and nothing happened. I don't see it anywhere. Maybe not compatible with my macOS beta.

 

[fisherking]

Perhaps that specific key combination was a bad idea, but the shortcut itself is an absolute must. Why they couldn't just let us customize it in the first place boggles my mind. The fact that Apple lets you set up custom keyboard shortcuts for most inane things makes their decision to remove it even more infuriating.

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seriously, tho: command-spacebar, type pas, the password app pops up, hit return. at least a workaround for now...

 

[theblueberru]

The Screen Recording permission is required for apps like bartender because anyone gives a **** about your screen content, it is a permission for apps to monitor you screen, which they need to do for things like, menu bar customization. If you think this is something that apps are only asking for now because they want to spy on you more, you are mistaken, they are asking now because they didn't have to before.
It is a persmission because asking for it is required. Not because the thing they are asking permission for wasn't possible before now. Now is just when Apple started making them ask.

 

[MacGizmo]

My opinion: I think people are going a little overboard with their obsession/paranoia about privacy. As stated, these "screen recording" permission notifications are new, but the act of recording the screen to display something the way you want is not.

It's just a lack of understanding of how the OS and software works, and it reminds me of the giant blowback Facebook got when they started "asking" for permission to access your contacts, microphone, and camera. People went out of their minds until some weeks later when they began to realize... how else would I make a video call, or record a live stream? How else would Facebook find friends? And how else can I make a voice call or record a voice message for Messenger? I will grant you that Facebook's entire existence is based on ciphening your information from you, but it's not exactly a secret, either.