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I also like touchbar in my mac, sadly his time comes to an end, I will upgrade in January.
Yeah… I’m still missing it every time I use my Mac, especially when working with photos and video; the Touch Bar features in for example Photoshop were definitely not a gimmick but a truly useful tool especially with the Haptic Touch Bar app that uses the touchpad haptic engine and makes things surprisingly intuitive. And the Pock app for having the Dock, time, media controls and more in the Touch Bar especially when in full-screen apps was just amazing…

I don’t use most of the function keys often and I’d hoped they’d make a compromise that keeps the Touch Bar at the top but still has function keys in a slimmer form below it for those who need them. For example controlling brightness with touch and the haptic feedback from the aforementioned app was a breeze!

And my iPhone XS Max is the last generation to have pressure-sensitive screen and can draw thicker lines in notes without changing line thickness. Cool? Yeah, just like Dynamic Island, but with a bit more potential IMO.
Oh yes that was such a cool thing, dearly missed, no more quick edits to drawings or sketches on the phone so I made a compromise and switched to the iPad mini 6 with a Pencil from a bigger model when I got the 13P for a still portable solution that didn’t force me to give up too much going down from a bigger screen.. but still having a bigger screen iPad with Pencil AND a pressure-sensitive phone would be just perfect.

You could say this about literally any feature of any Apple product. “So … the USB-C port is basically pointless;” “So … the ultrawide camera is basically pointless;” “So … the keyboard is basically pointless.” What is “pointless” to one person might be useful to another. The Dynamic Island isn’t the most awe-inspiring feature, but it exists, and it’s not hurting anything. Calm down.
So true… and exactly the reason behind their existence and good revenue sources for the company without losing too many customers but instead gaining more. Thank you for this comment, we should be civil while still discussing differences in opinions.

As an USB-C example being able to finally use my D10s DAC on the iPhone 15PM too is a true delight, and seeing it automatically switch between for example 48 and 192 KHz with Apple Music Lossless like on the Mac is one of those little satisfying things that’s just lovely. Much improved audio quality over the phone’s own DAC and Bluetooth.

I have been wondering lately if that will happen. It could be that the Dynamic Island just disappears when not in use and then can appear and display more information than is currently possible (since it would no longer have to work around the punch out area). That would be my preferred solution, as I also find the information useful and don't want to lose that functionality whenever the punch out goes away.
That’d be perfect, I don’t want to lose it either and the future tech freeing up screen space can enable lots of options like bigger waveforms, three separate usable modules for a timer on the left, wider music/airplay bar with the cover and wave or whatever in the middle and an ongoing call on the right… and when just playing music, it’d be fantastic to be able to scrub through the song with a long-press and sliding!

It’s not pointless to me. I like it. I believe it’s a great way to use the space. I think if notifications came out of the Dynamic Island all the time instead of where they appear now, we would see a new set of complaints about the notifications possibly showing up to small we would have to touch the island instead of swiping down or expanding the notification list to see what’s there. Otherwise notifications & music would be placed in a different area of the top of the screen and occupy a position of the display & probably occupy with a larger format if the island didn’t exist.
I would love it if Apple had implemented notifications automatically converting themselves to utilize the dynamic island when it's available. That would avoid the twin issues of iOS bloat (additional code that devs need to use in order to take advantage of DI) and developers failing to adopt the DI.
Yeah, one solution could be that it would only show or “pulse” time-sensitive notifications in a ball like it does with timers (while dropping others in the Notification Center like now), even in Focus modes. That’d be really cool without being too disturbing when driving or in a meeting.

Also, the new Face ID UX is much nicer with the DI than it was with the notch where its UI hid content and caused confusion for some older relatives, for example. Now they’re having a more intuitive experience because the new UI’s visual cues teach them to glance at the top, improving the experience and speed when requiring attention is enabled for Face ID especially when they’re wearing masks.

I don’t think it will. It’s a very useful bit of UI. It may get relocated elsewhere in the screen once FaceID is under the screen, but you can tell from the UX design that Apple genuinely feels the Dynamic Island give a bit of “warmth” to their UI.

It’s a friend when you need it (quick scores on your game, departure status when your in line for coffee at the airport, you delivery will be here in X minutes) and it will disappear when you don’t. That will be the future of the Dynamic Island UX.
Exactly, very well said, that would be just perfect. I really hope they’ll go that way instead of killing it like they did with the Touch Bar and 3D Touch.

It’d be true evolution and very good for competition, as it seems Android and even the custom ROM communities are slowly gimping/toning down/even killing the status bar’s extra functionality that used to have some links or ideas that the Dynamic Island is now doing.

Currently the Android status bar feels jarringly dated and useless especially on foldables where it could be shrunk into a floating pill around the camera or into a corner for more screen real estate. Those endless notification icons on the left… it could adopt so much from the DI while still being original, using the extra space foldables provide, adhering to the Material You principles, and not just copy things over but make them their own, giving new ideas for iOS developers in turn, too.

iPads could use a bit of a refresh too for that matter, time-sensitive notifications and their content along with the Dynamic Island features could so nicely be displayed in that top space and disturbing the user’s ongoing tasks.

And before this post gets too long, I just have to say the DI makes small things in life easier when for example working on music and having DecibelX running while a chat is open, to see the dBA so as not to disturb the neighbors, instead of having the app open all the time and when replying to someone, being unable to see its info.
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Works nicely when listening to music and controlling the Apple TV, too.
 
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No, it's on all the iPhone 15 models, not just the Pro/Pro Max.
The solid state multifunction button is not on all iphone 15s, just the iPhone 15 PROs/PRO Max.

Which imho is a failure in design discipline.


Be consistent across your entire product line. Decide what is core functionality, and upgrade ALL your products across the board with hardware AND IOS functionality. It has to do with predictability and ease of use. The solid state multifunction button in itself... Not a bad idea. My critique is that they have created a PRO product that has different functionality then the iPhone 15. And they will MAYBE implement it on the iphone 16 regular. But NOT on the iPhone SE for sure...

It`s not smooth design. Smells like marketing mumbo jumbo and a smooth slide into a marketing trick of the actual and only "new" iPhone being the PRO version with a distinct markup in price. The iPhone 15 is in most aspects a cheaper/less good hardware version of previous years iPhone PRO. Think about it... iPhone 15 is basically last years iPhone 14 PRO built cheaper...


Yes, the dynamic island is seemingly an elegant solution to, and added functionality for the pill-shaped hole in your display. BUT it is going away in a couple years when behind display cameras will for sure be as good as what is available today. AND the "Dynamic island" together with the "solid state" multifunction button is a trend in Apple doing gimmicky features for the iPhone PRO... Not good...


I don`t like gimmicky features that show short sighted design work AND/or a marketing trick to earn more with what used to be the just the regular iPhone.

It is starting to show that Apple is currently ran by marketing people, Welcome to John Sculley "pepsico" Apple V2...
 
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Apple replaced the iPhone with the iPhone Pro

The iPhone is last years iPhone PRO, which they previously had to sell for a lower price as previous years iPhone (with same material costs to make)

iPhone SE is the 3 year old iPhone tech with a cheaper screen/battery/etc...


It makes more marketing/business sense and more revenue for Apple to sell old tech as new themselves. Sly old Tim Cook doing the marketing gymnastics.


But it its not smooth design. And in the long run it has made the IPHONE itself less interesting.


Does it make Apple more money? Hell yeah! They get to sell last years iPhone at the same price as a new iPhone AND they sell this years iPhone as "PRO" at a much higher price.


In essence they are getting "whales" to buoy their bottomline.


No wonder Jony Ive was depressed at apple xD


Maybe they could reach 200% carbon free today by jacking Steve Jobs into a generator, I bet he is spinning pretty hard in his grave o_O
 
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First time interacting with dynamic island, as my work issued a new phone. It sits dormant a lot so far, hoping some usage presents itself.

One thing - my first instinct was to try and click on it, see if there was a submenu within the island where I could set up some things. Missing that functionality seems like an oversight.
 
One thing - my first instinct was to try and click on it, see if there was a submenu within the island where I could set up some things. Missing that functionality seems like an oversight.

It does have a tactile and visual feedback when pressed. So I agree, they could of let that be a shortcut/toggle for something.
 
I'm noticing that other than some basic OS features, there are very few apps that utilize the dynamic island. I was kinda excited for it when upgrading to the 15pm. I feel as though Apple should have integrated the whole notification system into it. That was the impression I got when I saw the 14 pro launch. How hard is it to let notifications pop out of the dynamic island? Just seems like a gimmick and uses up even more space than the notch.

Yes just gimmick to make user happy
 
Dynamic island is like the touch bar a pointless concept which is not fully realised and will be discontinued when the iphone goes full screen.

I am actually hesitant about upgrading to the iphone 16 ultra, given the notch on my iphone 12 pro max does not interfere in viewing films.
 
Unfortunately, they don’t let you customize the alerts that show on the island. The worst is the one that tells you that your data roaming is disabled. It shows everything you launch an app that wants to connect and it is very easy via the alert to turn on data roaming.
 
Samsung isn’t using VCEL dot projection for face mapping. They’re simply using a camera.

It’s not the same thing. One has been engineered for security for day one, the other is a cheap imitation of the unlocking feature without the accurate depth mapping of a face.

Think LIDAR in a “self driving” car vs trying to get depth mapping from 2D trickery of a regular camera.
Until Apple lobbies to have the law treat face Id the same as fingerprint Id, face Id is less secure the fingerprints.
 
Until Apple lobbies to have the law treat face Id the same as fingerprint Id, face Id is less secure the fingerprints.
Well considering TouchID has a 1/50,000 accuracy rate and FaceID is 1/1,000,000 I'd say TouchID is less secure by a large margin. Plenty of articles confirming Apples claim. Also, FaceID is accepted by all banks as biometric authentication as well as ApplePay so not sure who needs to be "lobbied"...
 
There’s some gimmick behind it.
But it looks cool, there is some functionality at QOL stuff. But it’s definitely not groundbreaking. It was a smart idea though and I enjoy it though

Seeing a timer, Lyft arrival /sports scores . The maps part is cool in thought, But usually my phone AOD is active and you see the maps on the whole screen when driving. It’s nice for me when I’m copilot though.
 
I thought the same at first, but now I see its usefulness, especially when I'm ordering an Uber ride or food from Uber Eats and such applications, as the dynamic island will display how much time is left until my ride or order arrives, without me having to keep checking the apps.
Funny cause for me live activity is still not working for Uber and Uber Eats (in fact, it never worked for any delivered app yet) since the release of iOS 16.0 even if the option is turned on in the settings.
 
I find it useful. I like that it essentially becomes a now playing function. I can jump quickly into it when I'm scrolling through safari to change a song or if I'm looking to get back into it from YouTube videos.
This is exactly why I like it and it works great for that purpose.
 
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