So they finally killed of Network Utility?

calaverasgrande

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I may be in the minority. But I used this application semi frequently.
Of course many of it's functions were duplicated in terminal. But sometimes it's just nice to drop out of the CLI and use a graphical widget to do stuff like pings.
And the port scan was extremely useful when troubleshooting firewall rule problems.

Please Apple, stop taking things away that work perfectly fine!

I'm sure there is a poorly implemented app that does the same thing uglier.
Oh well. Welcome to IOS X.
 

joedec

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I may be in the minority. But I used this application semi frequently.
Of course many of it's functions were duplicated in terminal. But sometimes it's just nice to drop out of the CLI and use a graphical widget to do stuff like pings.
And the port scan was extremely useful when troubleshooting firewall rule problems.

Please Apple, stop taking things away that work perfectly fine!

I'm sure there is a poorly implemented app that does the same thing uglier.
Oh well. Welcome to IOS X.
Its still there but not in the Utility Folder (weird) see;

System/Library/CoreServices/Applications
 

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I may be in the minority. But I used this application semi frequently.
Of course many of it's functions were duplicated in terminal. But sometimes it's just nice to drop out of the CLI and use a graphical widget to do stuff like pings.
And the port scan was extremely useful when troubleshooting firewall rule problems.

Please Apple, stop taking things away that work perfectly fine!

I'm sure there is a poorly implemented app that does the same thing uglier.
Oh well. Welcome to IOS X.
It is still there where Joe mentioned, but you can bring it up in Spotlight also.
 

silvetti

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I may be in the minority. But I used this application semi frequently.
Of course many of it's functions were duplicated in terminal. But sometimes it's just nice to drop out of the CLI and use a graphical widget to do stuff like pings.
And the port scan was extremely useful when troubleshooting firewall rule problems.

Please Apple, stop taking things away that work perfectly fine!

I'm sure there is a poorly implemented app that does the same thing uglier.
Oh well. Welcome to IOS X.
Would be smarter if you opened spotlight and wrote network, you would see it's there and no point in crying wolf..
 

calaverasgrande

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Would be smarter if you opened spotlight and wrote network, you would see it's there and no point in crying wolf..
well smart bleep, that is exactly what I did and it was not there?!
Instead top result was a wiki article, followed by several PDFs and help files which did not relate.
Somehow it is there today. Maybe the updates I ran fixed it. Maybe it was still indexing.
Either way, why does Apple insist on hiding it in very non obvious places.
First they moved it to part of system profiler for some odd reason.
Then its in a library folder now. Which USUALLY is a place humans are not supposed to go.
Yeah that was where it was in Mavericks but after I updated to IOSX with a bootable thumb drive, the only app shortcut that was broken was Network Util.
I've fixed that broken short cut.
Again.

Apple should just fix the broken ish, and leave stuff alone that works.
Ditto for iTunes on that one.

PS. thank for the bashing and piling on everyone! Of course it's my fault that Apple moves stuff around for no reason.
 
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Why don't they just keep Network Utility in the Utilities folder where it belongs?
cos you can open it with 3 button presses from spotlight? Who's still navigating manually to their utilities folder and scrolling to find things? What a waste of time!
 

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well smart bleep, that is exactly what I did and it was not there?!
Instead top result was a wiki article, followed by several PDFs and help files which did not relate.
Somehow it is there today. Maybe the updates I ran fixed it. Maybe it was still indexing.
Either way, why does Apple insist on hiding it in very non obvious places.
First they moved it to part of system profiler for some odd reason.
Then its in a library folder now. Which USUALLY is a place humans are not supposed to go.
Yeah that was where it was in Mavericks but after I updated to IOSX with a bootable thumb drive, the only app shortcut that was broken was Network Util.
I've fixed that broken short cut.
Again.

Apple should just fix the broken ish, and leave stuff alone that works.
Ditto for iTunes on that one.

PS. thank for the bashing and piling on everyone! Of course it's my fault that Apple moves stuff around for no reason.
You need to learn how to chillax.
 

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cos you can open it with 3 button presses from spotlight? Who's still navigating manually to their utilities folder and scrolling to find things? What a waste of time!
I do use spotlight, but for organizational purposes, it would make sense to keep it in the Utilities folder.
 
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Ludacrisvp

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Open "System Information" -> click on "Window" in the menubar -> click on "Network Utility" in the dropdown menu.

Or the slightly longer way:
Open "About This Mac" -> click on "System Report..." (which opens "System Information" for you) -> click on "Window" in the menubar -> click on "Network Utility" in the dropdown menu.



Note: I'm using the "Increase contrast & Reduce transparency" options in Accessibility so OSX may not look how you expect it to.... and obviously the dark themed menu bar and dock.
 

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calaverasgrande

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You need to learn how to chillax.
you need to learn manners.
I made a goof. But what is more telling that I goofed, or that a lot of us have started to expect Apple to stick it to us in some fashion with each new OS release?

A lot of people that used to be all "oh boy a new Mac OS!"
are now "Oh no, a new Mac OS!".

for the record, I use an alias on the Dock that points to the location where it was. That was a question mark after the update.
I'm not going to the utility folder every time I use Disk Util or Network Util. Which is why they are "Kept in the Dock".
Neither am I opening System Profiler everytime I need to check network details. The amount of clicks it takes to get to the Network Util would be more than it takes me to type netstat.
 
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silvetti

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you need to learn manners.
I made a goof. But what is more telling that I goofed, or that a lot of us have started to expect Apple to stick it to us in some fashion with each new OS release?

A lot of people that used to be all "oh boy a new Mac OS!"
are now "Oh no, a new Mac OS!".

for the record, I use an alias on the Dock that points to the location where it was. That was a question mark after the update.
I'm not going to the utility folder every time I use Disk Util or Network Util. Which is why they are "Kept in the Dock".
Neither am I opening System Profiler everytime I need to check network details. The amount of clicks it takes to get to the Network Util would be more than it takes me to type netstat.
Chillax means chill and relax and it was in no way to offend you, sorry if it did :)

Somtimes I also get pissed at something and then I chillax and drink a beer... Much better ;)