So wait is the Canon 5D mark II really this good?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by blockburner28, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. blockburner28 macrumors 6502

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    I was looking at someone post about how good the high iso picture quality is for the 5DII.

    2000 iso
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    6400 iso
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    Damn I didn't know full frames did it like this. I might have to bring this 7D back lol
     
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    It seems there is a light shining from the direction of the camera in the second (ISO 6400) image, thus it seems brighter.

    Btw, as the 5D Mark II shoots 21MP pictures, and the one you showed is only 0.7MP, the noise is of course not missing.

    PS:
    The EXIF data shows a flash being fired, thus the light I described.

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    ApertureValue = 3;
    ColorSpace = 1;
    CustomRendered = 0;
    DateTimeDigitized = "2010:03:29 05:17:24";
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    ExposureBiasValue = "1.333333";
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    ExposureTime = "0.04";
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    FocalPlaneResolutionUnit = 2;
    FocalPlaneXResolution = "3849.212";
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    PixelXDimension = 5616;
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    SceneCaptureType = 0;
    ShutterSpeedValue = "4.625";
    SubsecTime = 89;
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    SubsecTimeOriginal = 89;
    WhiteBalance = 0;
    };
    "{JFIF}" = {
    DensityUnit = 1;
    JFIFVersion = (
    1,
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    );
    XDensity = 72;
    YDensity = 72;
    };
    "{TIFF}" = {
    Make = Canon;
    Model = "Canon EOS 5D Mark II";
    Orientation = 1;
    };
    }
     
  3. wheelhot macrumors 68020

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    Well if you seek for the ultimate low light experience, FF is the way too go.

    Generally a FF is about 1-2 stop better then APS-C

    Check out D3s vs D3 and D300s, that will give you a huge :eek:
     
  4. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    To truly evaluate low-light performance, you need to actually shoot in low light. Don't use a flash and ISO 6400 - shoot ISO 6400 with only the dim ambient light. Use a tripod if necessary (if the shutter speed is going to run long).

    Full frame is great, but don't forget the weight and size issues with both the body and the lenses.
     
  5. flosseR macrumors 6502a

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    Well, as a previous owner of a %d MK2, I can confirm it is exceptionally great, beaten only by the D700 in that class in High ISO and that margin is not HUGE.

    But yes, in low light fullframe come into their element.
    :)
     
  6. firestarter macrumors 603

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    Yes, the 5DII really is a much better camera than the 7D. I think mine is absolutely fantastic. Added to the low noise performance, it's much easier to get creative depth of field effects, due to the shallower DOF afforded by the full frame sensor.

    However, if you change from the 7D you have to realise that the 5DII won't make you look any more manly - since the body size is exactly the same. I really think you should skip the 5DII and go straight or the 1D Mk IV. This is a more substantial camera with a better viewfinder and even faster continuous shooting ability. Just imagine how heads will turn if you rattle off 10 frames per second!
     
  7. blockburner28 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    lol I love you man! You remember all of my post :p
     
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  9. blockburner28 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I'm keeping the 7d. I'm going to add lighting and call it a day
     
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    ROFL, a friend of mine has a Nikon D3whatever and it sounds like a machine gun when he holds the shutter button down...
     
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    i had an EOS -3 with the PB grip. I think it fired off 8 fps (close to that). Not cool when a roll of film is exhausted in 4 seconds, plus the cost of the film and to develop....
     
  12. jared_kipe macrumors 68030

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    Is of course not missing??

    For the record, noise in digital pictures doesn't usually get all that much better when it is down sampled.

    http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2008/11/downsampling-to.html
     
  13. gødspeed macrumors regular

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    That first shot at ISO2000 is gorgeous :eek:

    My 7D couldn't do that, not without a damn fast lens anyway... and then the depth of field would be ****ed, as that picture looks as good as it does because of the deep focus.
     
  14. John.B macrumors 601

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    The 1D Mk IV isn't full frame.
     
  15. firestarter macrumors 603

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    Did I say it was?

    OP was looking for a camera which did better low light and looked more manly. 1D Mk IV is better at both of those than the 5D II.
     
  16. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    A quality tripod is always going to be the best accessory for that sort of shot - shoot at ISO 100 with as deep a field as you desire.
     
  17. gødspeed macrumors regular

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    Not sure I agree about the 1D mark IV being better for low-light than the 5D mark II. The only camera I can think of (other than medium format) that clearly outperforms the 5D mark II in low-light is the Nikon D3S.
     
  18. John.B macrumors 601

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    If the OP wants a more "manly" camera than the 5DMk2 and still get great low-light performance, he should get a grip.

    :D
     
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    +1 on the grip! My 40D looks like a beast with the grip on it :D
     
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    I went from 40D with grip to 5D mk II with grip. I can attest that it is much heavier.
     
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    Eh. The 1D Mark IV seems heavily overrated in the high ISO department to me. The D3s crushes it, despite both being rated at 102,000.
     
  23. firestarter macrumors 603

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    I notice you didn't try to shoot me down on the 1D Mk IV = manly observation.

    I guess we both know that Nikons are for girls.
     
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    I'd rather have her share my brand than that guy anyway...
     
  25. blockburner28 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well guys I finally jumped the gun. I went to bestbuy since I had a 300 dollar coupon(12% off) and 225 dollars worth of gift certificates . I have to wait til the 22th for it to come in :D
     

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