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So, was it worth $129?
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Still on Tiger at the mo...
Just wondering what ppl think about leopard?
Overhyped?
To me, it seems like most of the stuff is just eye candy - 3d dock, better UI and stuff
Only time machine is the only real functional new feature.
To me...I don't think new Finder with cover flow and especially quick look is eye candy. quick look is very useful...more than just eye candy.
don't know what they have done but Leopard and apps are snappier than in Tiger.
The biggest change with Leopard IMO is that it's 64 bit top to bottom as opposed to the half way house that was Tiger.
Definitely worth the price without any question
Definitely worth the price without any question
Is there any overall performance benefits? Thats my only question .......?
I have also read that the upgrade did not go well for some, and that some said they ended doing a full install and loosing everything
I have also read that the upgrade did not go well for some, and that some said they ended doing a full install and loosing everything
Big time, in nearly every application. Safari, Mail, iCal, you name it. They are noticeably faster.
If you have a MacBook with the GMA950 video chipset, I'd wait for the first software update before upgrading to Leopard. I just installed 10.5 on my MacBook, and the animation effects (e.g., Expose, Genie, Spaces, Stacks, Dashboard) are slow/jerky. I'm going to try a clean install tomorrow, but I doubt that's the issue. If that doesn't work, I'm going back to Tiger.
Be patient. There are a lot of strange little glitches/bugs in Leopard right now. 10.5.1 will be a lot more polished.
Be patient. There are a lot of strange little glitches/bugs in Leopard right now. 10.5.1 will be a lot more polished.
Thank you for sharing those experiences...I am also a Macbook owner and was planning on waiting a little before upgrading.
As I said in another thread: The Mail Activity thingy showing the progress when sending (especially large) e-mails, alone, makes the upgrade worthwhile...
Now, of course, there's more goodies than that... I'm very exited about the Mail/iCal changes, and look forward to check those out more thoroughly...
And then there is Time Machine...
Now, of course, there's more goodies than that... I'm very exited about the Mail/iCal changes, and look forward to check those out more thoroughly...
And then there is Time Machine...
Definitely worth it. I can see a noticeable difference with the graphics, everything is snappier and the improvements to Mail, Safari alone are worth the small cost. If you were an unfortunate Windows user think how much it would cost you to get Vista.
Didn't Panther have 129 features for $129? So this time we got 300 features for $129. Clearly a much bigger bargain.
(I won't mention that most of the 300 features affect only a minority of users. Then again, I've spotted a number of Leopard features that weren't mentioned in Apple's "300 feature" list.)
(I won't mention that most of the 300 features affect only a minority of users. Then again, I've spotted a number of Leopard features that weren't mentioned in Apple's "300 feature" list.)
I paid a little over $100 for my copy via Corporate discount. So for that price, compared to what you would get for Vista - yeah, it's worth it.
But that doesn't mean it's perfect.
My biggest complaint is that Leopard and networked disks (I'm using the AEBS) is a NIGHTMARE! It simply does not work well, and that's a problem since I use 4 different networked drives via the AEBS, and Tiger had no problem with this. When the network drive connections fail, I cannot unmount anything else - including USB drives connected directly to the machine. They better fix this quickly!
Stacks would be alot more useful if it was more configurable (like...turn it off for certain folders). Oh, and the icon for a stacked folder is whatever icon shows as the first app/doc in the list. This is obnoxious to no end. I also hate the way the stack concatenates long file names.
I don't have a problem with the opaque menu bar, but it would be nice to set the opacity.
Otherwise, 10.5 is pretty elegant. Of all the new features, I'll probably use Spaces the most. Windows has had this feature forever, and I really missed it when I switched over. I would love it if Apple would allow the Finder to sort grouping folders and files separately, but oh well....
One last thing: I performed a clean install.
But that doesn't mean it's perfect.
My biggest complaint is that Leopard and networked disks (I'm using the AEBS) is a NIGHTMARE! It simply does not work well, and that's a problem since I use 4 different networked drives via the AEBS, and Tiger had no problem with this. When the network drive connections fail, I cannot unmount anything else - including USB drives connected directly to the machine. They better fix this quickly!
Stacks would be alot more useful if it was more configurable (like...turn it off for certain folders). Oh, and the icon for a stacked folder is whatever icon shows as the first app/doc in the list. This is obnoxious to no end. I also hate the way the stack concatenates long file names.
I don't have a problem with the opaque menu bar, but it would be nice to set the opacity.
Otherwise, 10.5 is pretty elegant. Of all the new features, I'll probably use Spaces the most. Windows has had this feature forever, and I really missed it when I switched over. I would love it if Apple would allow the Finder to sort grouping folders and files separately, but oh well....
One last thing: I performed a clean install.
Keep in mind that most people that had an easy install experience are not going to post it.
My Install went fine (I did a erase and install though)
I think so far a lot of things are just UI type changes. But I'm sure once I use it for a day I will think much differently.
My Install went fine (I did a erase and install though)
I think so far a lot of things are just UI type changes. But I'm sure once I use it for a day I will think much differently.
Question about Speed
I pick up my copy next week from my University's computer store. I'm not sure if anyone can make a direct comparison, but how does the speed compare to Ubuntu or Vista?
Thanks
I pick up my copy next week from my University's computer store. I'm not sure if anyone can make a direct comparison, but how does the speed compare to Ubuntu or Vista?
Thanks
If you consider the cost of decent third-party utilities and system add-ons, etc..., $129 is a bargain for a completely revamped operating system with 300 new bells and whistles.
Not just you. I did a clean install and they are indeed very jerky, somewhat disappointed in Leopard. I really don't think it runs smoother than Tiger. That may only be perception based upon the poor animations.
I am very pleased with the upgrade. I think the dock looks fantastic, the changes to iChat make the program SO much better to use, and finally, I love searching through my documents in coverflow.
I paid $199 for the family pack--since Apple treats me like an honest person with no 40 digit codes and activation idiocy, I treat Apple with similar respect by paying for the family pack. (And yes, I know there is no difference. It's an honor thing.)
Was it worth it?
Absolutely.
The speed.
The dozen or so killer features.
The thousands of little enhancements.
It's a great update. Well worth the money.
Was it worth it?
Absolutely.
The speed.
The dozen or so killer features.
The thousands of little enhancements.
It's a great update. Well worth the money.