So what gives

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Jayman34187, Aug 24, 2010.

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  1. Jayman34187 macrumors regular

    Jun 15, 2010
    I don't understand the Apple Fan boys! What makes Apple so great? Why cannot they do any wrong? when obviously they have done lots of things wrong. Class action suits, losing in court, shady unethical business practices, ridiculous suggestions to hold your phone this way not that way. You can't replace the battery, Apple's closed systems fetish knows no bound...

    The first iPhone 4 class action suit against Apple and AT&T has been filed today in the United States District Court for the District of Maryland. The lawsuit focus on the antenna design problems, making several claims: Updated

    • General Negligence (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Defect in Design, Manufacture, and Assembly (APPLE)
    • Breach of Express Warranty (APPLE)
    • Breach of Implied Warranty for Merchantability (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Breach of Implied Warranty of Fitness for a Particular Purpose (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Deceptive Trade Practices (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Intentional Misrepresentation (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Negligent Misrepresentation (APPLE and AT&T)
    • Fraud by Concealment (APPLE and AT&T)

    Apple has been criticized by iPhone 4 users and media for the reception problems that seem to result from its faulty antenna design. While all cellphones experience a decrease in signal quality when you touch their antenna, the iPhone 4 design puts the antenna all around it, making difficult to avoid under natural handling of the phone. Cases started to appear in and on June 23, one day before the official launch of the iPhone 4, from users who received their units earlier.

    After those initial reports, thousands of users started to report reception and transmission problems in different countries around the world, which resulted in loss of internet connections and voice call drops and voice quality degradation. Other tests have demonstrated the antenna problems since then.

    Lets see what else

    Free Speech, Anyone?
    Apple pressured the sites to reveal their sources, and even worse, pressured the sites' ISPs. In May 2006, a California court said no way, ruling that online journalists enjoy the same First Amendment rights as "legitimate" offline journalists. Seems silly in today's world, doesn't it? Recently, the court ordered Apple to pay the sites' legal fees--about $700,000.

    Ain't Too Proud to Blame
    When Apple shipped iPods containing a worm last year, instead of issuing a humble mea culpa, Apple took a swipe at Microsoft, saying, "As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it." As you can imagine, that didn't fly with security experts. How about an apology to the folks who were unlucky enough to buy the infected iPods, period?

    The Fake Steve Jobs
    If there were no real Steve Jobs, there'd be no fake one either, and that would be a shame. The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs is a satirical blog written by an anonymous, often dead-on voice channeling the real Steve Jobs. It's both a hilarious read and an influential commentary on tech issues such as Tim O'Reilly's proposed Blogger's Code of Conduct. (And yes, we know that Fake Steve's targets have included . . . well, us.)
    Warning: Reading the blog will quickly prove why the Fake Steve Jobs (also known as FSJ) is on the wrong side of that blogger code of conduct. He--whoever he may really be--frequently strays across the line of political correctness.

    A class action lawsuit against Apple is alleging that the company relies on a faulty technology in its iPhones and iPods to determine whether a device has been exposed to liquid and can be repaired under warranty.
    (Credit: Apple)

    Filed in the Northern District of California by Charlene Gallion on April 15, the class action lawsuit claims that the Liquid Submersion Indicators technology that Apple uses is inaccurate, which could lead to false positive results.

    The Liquid Submersion Indicators are triggered when liquid has entered the device. The indicators are located in the headphone jack and in the dock connector housing of the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS.

    If an iPhone or iPod Touch is taken into Apple for warranty work and the Liquid Submersion Indicators have been triggered, Apple can refuse to fix the device under warranty. Obviously, false positive triggers under this circumstance would not be beneficial to consumers.

    According to Gallion, this is exactly what happened to her. Her iPhone--purchased in 2008--stopped working properly in March 2009. She contacted Apple about getting it repaired or replaced under the device's standard warranty, but was told that the Liquid Submersion Indicator had been triggered. Subsequently, she was not entitled to a repair or replacement under warranty.

    According to the lawsuit, Gallion did purchase a discounted iPhone 3G from Apple to replace her broken device. Six months later, that phone stopped working too. Apple again told her that the Liquid Submersion Indicators had been triggered.

    Apple says the technology is designed so it won't be triggered by humidity or temperature changes, but the lawsuit claims independent testing proves otherwise.

    The lawsuit says that the Liquid Submersion Indicators can be triggered by cold weather and humidity, both of which are within Apple's operating standards. The suit claims that other types of moisture like sweat during a workout can also trigger the indicators. Problems with sweat causing some devices to stop functioning have been reported.

    An Apple representative declined to comment on pending litigation.
    Apple is being sued for, among other things, breach of warranty, fraud, and unfair business practices. The lawsuit is asking for an unspecified amount of damages, as well as all costs associated with the class action suit.

    A federal judge has granted class action status to a monopoly lawsuit against Apple and AT&T.

    According to AP, the lawsuit consolidates several lawsuits from late 2007 and 2008 and claims that, since AT&T was Apple’s exclusive iPhone partner in the U.S. for five years, Apple had locked consumers who had signed a two-year contract into a five-year contract with AT&T.

    The lawsuit also complains that Apple drove prices up and hurt competition by controlling which apps the device owners can install. However, judge James Ware of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California dismissed claims that Apple broke laws when an update to the iPhone’s OS caused problems with some iPhones and deleted programs users had purchased.

    The suit seeks damages to cover legal fees and other costs, as well as an injunction to keep Apple from selling locked iPhones in the U.S., as well as regulating which apps users can install.

    Some have even suggested that Apple may give away bumpers to ..... was such an out cry and bad publicity that Apple was forced to issue free bumpers...

    We can keep going Apple Fan boys... Do you also whorship the devil? oh wait you whorship steve jobs.. Difference?
  2. shandyman Suspended

    Apr 24, 2010
    Dublin, Ireland
    could you have not just included this in one of your other many topics you have going slating apple???
  3. MisterDisney macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    Judge Boxxy will rule in favor of Apple, cuz you is trollin.
  4. studio¹³¹ macrumors 6502


    Jul 31, 2009
  5. sinsin07 macrumors 68040

    Mar 28, 2009
    It would seem an Apple "fanboy" kicked your a$$ today. Feeling better?:D
  6. 3GEE macrumors regular


    Jul 8, 2009
    You seem to have copied and pasted different sources. Shouldn't you be giving credit to other people's work instead of adding a sentence and passing it off as your own?
  7. Jayman34187 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 15, 2010
    Yeah other people know how shady Apple is to :) and indeed it is other peoples work talking down on what is going on.
  8. Jumpie macrumors 6502a


    Jul 7, 2008
    Great reading. thanks!

    Love my Apple products by all means....just hate the strict control methods used on iPhones and iPods. It's nothing more than a business strategy. Understandable. But really, Apple, the dev teams helped you create the App Store because you didn't want to open up the devices. Then they saw the potential in $$$
  9. sinsin07 macrumors 68040

    Mar 28, 2009
    Have you been drinking? This is rambling.
  10. PirateP macrumors 6502


    Aug 3, 2010
    Naboo Land
    TL; DRCA.

    (Too long; don't really care anyway.)
  11. Zepaw macrumors 65816


    Apr 18, 2010
  12. SAD*FACED*CLOWN macrumors 65816


    Apr 5, 2010
    Houston, TX
  13. Ever34 macrumors regular

    Jun 25, 2009
    if everyone had the opportunity to return their phone i don't see how such a lawsuit could go very far.
  14. kev6677 macrumors member

    Jul 30, 2010
    got to admit apple does have some shady business practices if you disagree you are either blind or a fu!kboy i really meant fanboy . however the Iphone is one of the greatest tech devices of the 20th century got to give them credit for that as for AT&T monopolizing the whole carier thing they should be sued plus apple would have sold alot more phones if they had allowed an open carrier service anyway.
  15. Storrow macrumors regular

    May 25, 2006
    are you hammered? get a job
  16. brendu macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2009
    I hate apples practices as much as the next guy but lets be completely honest... Go use an apple product for a week and you will know why people defend them... Solid products that work great... The iphone is a great phone... Sure it has problems and it's not the only good phone system... I love my palm pre and webos more but I've gone through 6 pres in the same time that my friend went through one iphone 3gs...

    I won't buy an iphone until I see what palm comes out with next but I'll admit it's a kick ass phone and apples super anal control of their products is why they are so nice to use 95% of the time...

    I am by no means a fanboy: I call apple out on their ******** but every other company has just as much if not more issues with hardware / software as apple

    and like the premadonna steve says... If you don't like apple products, don't buy them... It's simple.
  17. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    Thanks for the good laugh. :)

    "Why cannot they do any wrong? when obviously they have done lots of things wrong.” Priceless.
  18. saving107 macrumors 603


    Oct 14, 2007
    San Jose, Ca

    dude, since this morning you have been ranting, give it a rest.

    go find a park and take a walk. Go enjoy the fresh air, feed the ducks, fly a kite or ride a bike, something, but just chill.
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