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So what was the point of the 5C?

I think it was more an age appeal thing

The iPhones before the 5C were loved (and afforded) by adults/parents etc, with there old hand me downs (non IOS) being given to kids making blackberry/android the kids favourite.

The 5C was an attempt to make IOS cool and appeal to the kids to stop the "iPhones are what my folks have" image.

I think it was pretty successful in that aim, all all the kids round here now want 6/SE's to replace there 5C's
 
LovingTeddy said:
There was only 1 devices used A6 chip back then. Now there is 2 devices uses A9. You have twice more production, the cost goes down. Now SE also used A9, so you have 3 devices uses A9, it will drive the cost even less.

Majority of the parts were from iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 6. With all these recycled stuff, Apple could theoretically refurbishing many parts and reuse for iPhone SE.

As I said, the main reason for iPhone 5C is cost consideration. Apple does not have much cost considerations with SE, because of scale of economic.
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With that logic, Apple should have used the same FaceTime camera and Touch ID sensor from the 6s because more devices would be using them, driving the cost down.

Apple included the same processor, camera, and amount of RAM from the 6s because that's what matters to most people. Most people have no idea what dual-domain pixels are and aren't aware that the iPhone SE doesn't have it. It's not a night and day difference. And unless you have unlimited data and are downloading massive files constantly, you won't be able to tell the difference between LTE and LTE-A anyway. It's not a big deal to have to wait an extra 0.2 seconds for the older gen Touch ID sensor to unlock your phone.

The only thing people are really going to notice is the lower quality FaceTime camera and 3D Touch, but whether they care about those things will differ with each person. I personally don't care about the FaceTime camera, and the only reason I want 3D Touch is for the keyboard trackpad, but it's not something I'm going to give up the smaller, more practical design and an extra $250 for.

What people are going to notice is that the iPhone SE is just as fast and snappy as the iPhone 6s, takes pictures and videos that are just as good, and lasts as long or longer on a charge.
 
Channan said:
With that logic, Apple should have used the same FaceTime camera and Touch ID sensor from the 6s because more devices would be using them, driving the cost down.

Apple included the same processor, camera, and amount of RAM from the 6s because that's what matters to most people. Most people have no idea what dual-domain pixels are and aren't aware that the iPhone SE doesn't have it. It's not a night and day difference. And unless you have unlimited data and are downloading massive files constantly, you won't be able to tell the difference between LTE and LTE-A anyway. It's not a big deal to have to wait an extra 0.2 seconds for the older gen Touch ID sensor to unlock your phone.

The only thing people are really going to notice is the lower quality FaceTime camera and 3D Touch, but whether they care about those things will differ with each person. I personally don't care about the FaceTime camera, and the only reason I want 3D Touch is for the keyboard trackpad, but it's not something I'm going to give up the smaller, more practical design and an extra $250 for.

What people are going to notice is that the iPhone SE is just as fast and snappy as the iPhone 6s, takes pictures and videos that are just as good, and lasts as long or longer on a charge.
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I don't know what is your point.

But let's see. The iPhone SE uses FaceTime camera used by: iPhone 5S, iPod Touch, bunch of iPads and iPhone 6 (I think). Of course, Apple maybe use recycled camera modules as well.

And TouchID sensor. Only iPhone 6S and 6S Plus using second gen TouchID. iPhone 6, all iPads and plus iPhone SE uses first gen TouchID, it is way cheaper to make first gen TouchID sensor than second gen.

Lots of stuff from iPhone SE are all recycled, reused or continuing manufacturing old parts. There is reason Apple can sell iPhone SE for 399USD and make healthy margin.
 
LovingTeddy said:
I don't know what is your point.

But let's see. The iPhone SE uses FaceTime camera used by: iPhone 5S, iPod Touch, bunch of iPads and iPhone 6 (I think). Of course, Apple maybe use recycled camera modules as well.

And TouchID sensor. Only iPhone 6S and 6S Plus using second gen TouchID. iPhone 6, all iPads and plus iPhone SE uses first gen TouchID, it is way cheaper to make first gen TouchID sensor than second gen.

Lots of stuff from iPhone SE are all recycled, reused or continuing manufacturing old parts. There is reason Apple can sell iPhone SE for 399USD and make healthy margin.
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Are you pretending Apple sells more iPod touches, iPads, and old iPhones than their current gen iPhones? That's like saying Apple sells more variations of the Mac, so Macs sell more than iPhones. :confused: Whatever the current gen iPhone is using is what Apple has to make the most of.

Nothing in the iPhone SE is reused unless you get a refurbished iPhone. Continued manufacturing some old parts? Sure. Recycled? No.

I don't see how you can't understand my point. Try reading it again maybe? I explained it pretty thoroughly. If you still don't understand, then I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do to help you.
 
Channan said:
Are you pretending Apple sells more iPod touches, iPads, and old iPhones than their current gen iPhones? That's like saying Apple sells more variations of the Mac, so Macs sell more than iPhones. :confused: Whatever the current gen iPhone is using is what Apple has to make the most of.
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Well I mean, with all those numbers combined, yeah, they probably do sell more than current gen iPhones.
 
Lostanddamned said:
Doesn’t anyone remember “scratchgate”? The slate colour of the iPhone 5 would scratch, chip and flake with almost no assistance and leave the phone looking incredibly ugly.

The iPhone 5 was killed off before its time, and replaced with the 5C, at the same time as the introduction of Space Grey - a colour which scratches and discolours far less than slate ever did.
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The first iPad mini used the same colors as the 5 and when they changed over to space grey they countinued to sell the original iPad mini but just changed its colors. So that can't be really a reason since if it was they just would have changed the colors of the 5 too.
 
chrf097 said:
The only thing is that shows the combined sales of iPhones, so it's taking into account the 6/+, as well as any money they make from carriers/retailers that still offer the 5s/5c/older iPhones during that period.

Is that just US sales or global?
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Someone already posted a graph showing iPhone sales in the first 30 days after launch and the 6s/6s Plus combined made up over 70% of iPhone sales.

According to those numbers, the iPhone makes up 65% of Apple's revenue. If 70% of iPhones were the 6 and 6s before the iPhone SE came out, that means the current gen iPhones make up 45.5% of all of Apple's revenue. That's including Macs, iPods, Apple TVs, Beats products, Apple Watch, iTunes sales, etc.
 
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